Requirement to unlock National Dex in new games revealed

*Unown Lord* · 09-14-2006, 01:55 PM

Recently, it became known that transferring GBA Pokémon to Diamond and Pearl entails the possession of the National Dex as a primary condition. Although the concept of the Pal Park has come to be seen as a hassle by many, the condition to making use of the facility has been considered tantamount to defeating the Elite Four, since the upgrade to the National Dex is merely a chain event in FireRed, LeafGreen and Emerald.

The latest CoroCoro magazine reiterated the information and further complicated matters, revealing that the National Dex is obtained after completing the Shin'ou Dex.

Prof. Nanakamado would appear not to be as concerned with the player's feats as Prof. Oak or Prof. Birch, both of whom decide to entitle the player with the National Dex at the sight of championship. Prof. Nanakamado apparently wants to see the Shin'ou Dex completed for purposes pertaining to his research on evolution, and only when his wish is fulfilled does he return a favor to the player (in contrast, Prof. Birch delivers one of the Johto starters for completing of the Hoenn Dex, by which time the National Dex has already been obtained).

I suppose that this tidbit has gone ignored so far due to the English translators deeming the CoroCoro page as containing known information. Pokeani's paraphrasing allowed me to make note of it.

To make a long story short, Diamond and Pearl are from far the ideal solution in terms of bringing the GBA Pokémon to the Wi-Fi environment. In fact, this almost renders Wi-Fi communication as the means (used for trading necessary Shin'ou Pokémon in order to gain the National Dex), rather than the end.

***Misty*** · 09-14-2006, 02:26 PM

That's... horrible.

I guess some things never change...

Pie · 09-14-2006, 02:39 PM

... that's sadistic. God, and I thought they were at their meanest when they came up with how to catch Feebas. X_x'

*GrnMarvl13* · 09-14-2006, 02:46 PM

FINALLY. Me constantly filling the Pokedex pays off. For once, I'm ahead of the game. Watch me get screwed, though.

~~Habunake~~ · 09-14-2006, 03:12 PM

I'm glad we finnaly have a reason to do the Pokedex...yes people, YOU HAVE to work in life.

Of ocurse, with over 1000+ people on Wi-Fi...it won't be that hard.

*Zeta* · 09-14-2006, 03:33 PM

This royally sucks for people who don't have a wireless internet connection. Like me for instance. We might have to wait till the third game in the series when they correct this stupidity. So you can't use the Pal Park until you get all of the Shinou Pokemon? That bites almost as hard as when Ruby and Sapphire came out and half of the Pokemon were missing. Why is there always some huge gaping flaw with the new games lately?

**Geodude** · 09-14-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeta

This royally sucks for people who don't have a wireless internet connection.

That's why this was released ages ago. Get your facts straight before whining.

~~Habunake~~ · 09-14-2006, 03:39 PM

Hopefully Manaphy and any other "secret" one isn't needed.....

*Zeta* · 09-14-2006, 03:40 PM

Quote:

That's why this was released ages ago. Get your facts straight before whining.

I'm stuck on dial-up which is the only internet connection type offered in my area, which I doubt will work very well with online gaming, so I will continue to whine.

**Geodude** · 09-14-2006, 03:42 PM

With the relatively small amount of data that would be exchanged in a DS online game, I don't see how it would be that bad.

And you said nothing about dial-up in your first post...which is irrelevant anyway. A connection can be both wireless and dialup, yano.

~~Habunake~~ · 09-14-2006, 03:43 PM

I suggest Zeta goes to his nearest McDonald's then....

**Geodude** · 09-14-2006, 03:43 PM

That too.

*Zeta* · 09-14-2006, 03:44 PM

I also still have Windows 98. So again, I think all of my equipment is just too out of date. I shouldn't have to keep my computer updated to play a console videogame. That's why I'm a console gamer and not a PC gamer.

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Hopefully Manaphy and any other "secret" one isn't needed.....

Ouch. I didn't even think of that,

*Zeta* · 09-14-2006, 03:45 PM

Does McDonalds even work with DSs? I've tried using WiFi hotspots in Barnes and Noble and various hotels, but none of them allow the DS to connect. Or anything that isn't a PC - you have to navigate an internet browser to allow the WiFi to go through in most of the places I've been.

~~Habunake~~ · 09-14-2006, 03:46 PM

They do, McDonald's signed an agreement with Nintendo, and it seems to be free.

09-14-2006, 01:55 PM	#1
Unown Lord Time Traveler Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,757 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Unown Lord's Gallery	Requirement to unlock National Dex in new games revealed Recently, it became known that transferring GBA Pokémon to Diamond and Pearl entails the possession of the National Dex as a primary condition. Although the concept of the Pal Park has come to be seen as a hassle by many, the condition to making use of the facility has been considered tantamount to defeating the Elite Four, since the upgrade to the National Dex is merely a chain event in FireRed, LeafGreen and Emerald. The latest CoroCoro magazine reiterated the information and further complicated matters, revealing that the National Dex is obtained after completing the Shin'ou Dex. Prof. Nanakamado would appear not to be as concerned with the player's feats as Prof. Oak or Prof. Birch, both of whom decide to entitle the player with the National Dex at the sight of championship. Prof. Nanakamado apparently wants to see the Shin'ou Dex completed for purposes pertaining to his research on evolution, and only when his wish is fulfilled does he return a favor to the player (in contrast, Prof. Birch delivers one of the Johto starters for completing of the Hoenn Dex, by which time the National Dex has already been obtained). I suppose that this tidbit has gone ignored so far due to the English translators deeming the CoroCoro page as containing known information. Pokeani's paraphrasing allowed me to make note of it. To make a long story short, Diamond and Pearl are from far the ideal solution in terms of bringing the GBA Pokémon to the Wi-Fi environment. In fact, this almost renders Wi-Fi communication as the means (used for trading necessary Shin'ou Pokémon in order to gain the National Dex), rather than the end.

09-14-2006, 02:39 PM	#3
Pie Not Dead?!? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My OWN pants Posts: 2,497 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Blog Entries: 1 Pie's Gallery	... that's sadistic. God, and I thought they were at their meanest when they came up with how to catch Feebas. X_x' __________________ By reading this, you have given me temporary control of your mind.

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GrnMarvl13 My Dragon Packs Heat Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 8,178 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Blog Entries: 7 GrnMarvl13's Gallery	FINALLY. Me constantly filling the Pokedex pays off. For once, I'm ahead of the game. Watch me get screwed, though. __________________ Marvel Database Project - Inflammable

09-14-2006, 03:33 PM	#6
Zeta Bulbapædist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,082 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Zeta's Gallery	This royally sucks for people who don't have a wireless internet connection. Like me for instance. We might have to wait till the third game in the series when they correct this stupidity. So you can't use the Pal Park until you get all of the Shinou Pokemon? That bites almost as hard as when Ruby and Sapphire came out and half of the Pokemon were missing. Why is there always some huge gaping flaw with the new games lately? __________________ Breaking news! Scientists have discovered that taking a life form and altering the ear via surgery to create a "notched" pattern alters the generic structure the creature, creating an entirely different species of life form! Gene therapy has reached a new break scientific breakthrough. Ear-cropping practices used on dogs are now being considered advanced genetic engineering.

09-14-2006, 03:42 PM	#10
Geodude Rock-type Gym Leader Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 4,722 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Blog Entries: 25 Geodude's Gallery	With the relatively small amount of data that would be exchanged in a DS online game, I don't see how it would be that bad. And you said nothing about dial-up in your first post...which is irrelevant anyway. A connection can be both wireless and dialup, yano. __________________ "You've got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there." --Yogi Berra My EBay auctions - please buy!

09-14-2006, 02:26 PM	#2
*Misty* Sexy. :D Chopper Challenge Champion! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Savannah, Georgia (The US state, not the country) Posts: 4,799 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Misty's Gallery	That's... horrible. I guess some things never change...

09-14-2006, 03:12 PM	#5
~~Habunake~~ 追放されたバカ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State of the Virgin Queen Posts: 11,174 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Habunake's Gallery	I'm glad we finnaly have a reason to do the Pokedex...yes people, YOU HAVE to work in life. Of ocurse, with over 1000+ people on Wi-Fi...it won't be that hard.

09-14-2006, 03:39 PM	#8
~~Habunake~~ 追放されたバカ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State of the Virgin Queen Posts: 11,174 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Habunake's Gallery	Hopefully Manaphy and any other "secret" one isn't needed.....

09-14-2006, 03:43 PM	#11
~~Habunake~~ 追放されたバカ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State of the Virgin Queen Posts: 11,174 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Habunake's Gallery	I suggest Zeta goes to his nearest McDonald's then....

09-14-2006, 03:43 PM	#12
Geodude Rock-type Gym Leader Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 4,722 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Blog Entries: 25 Geodude's Gallery	That too. __________________ "You've got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there." --Yogi Berra My EBay auctions - please buy!

09-14-2006, 03:45 PM	#14
Zeta Bulbapædist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,082 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Zeta's Gallery	Does McDonalds even work with DSs? I've tried using WiFi hotspots in Barnes and Noble and various hotels, but none of them allow the DS to connect. Or anything that isn't a PC - you have to navigate an internet browser to allow the WiFi to go through in most of the places I've been. __________________ Breaking news! Scientists have discovered that taking a life form and altering the ear via surgery to create a "notched" pattern alters the generic structure the creature, creating an entirely different species of life form! Gene therapy has reached a new break scientific breakthrough. Ear-cropping practices used on dogs are now being considered advanced genetic engineering.

09-14-2006, 03:46 PM	#15
~~Habunake~~ 追放されたバカ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State of the Virgin Queen Posts: 11,174 Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournaments Won: 0 Habunake's Gallery	They do, McDonald's signed an agreement with Nintendo, and it seems to be free.