OTP MAFIA - MAFIA VICTORY [06/01/13]

[Sollux Captor]

Well, I thought that KB and Midorikawa did have the lynch stopping role, and that Winter Enchantress does look a bit scummy, but I'm trying to reread the whole thread to see what I can find.

You've had two hours. Any thoughts that aren't reiteration?

[Momoka]

Probably best not to tag me at 2am in the morning :P

Apologies. I just wanted to mention you at that time so you would see later, and I was going to sleep and I knew I would not wake up until noon, so...

Also you forgot at least one other player in FestiveGreen and IIRC DrumBeats :P I know you're better than that so I do question the exclusion of those.

I'm not going to make the excuse that I was tired, but I will say that some players slipped my mind to mention. I believe I saw DrumBeats post somewhat recently(maybe 1-2 days ago?) so I didn't think to mention him, but has FestiveGreen spoken up at all?

[Sunburn]

Well, it's clear that there aren't a whole lot of leads. I know this is reiteration, but because of WE's claim she's looking less scummy (especially if she's killed, which if she's town would obviously be bad), and though we can look to the users who voted for KB/Midori, they can't really be blamed for placing their votes for users who turned up as town since we didn't have much information to go by, and that was the best assumption they could make. Like other users are suggesting, I'd like to see thoughts from inactives, users who have placed baseless votes, or users who have posted only once, etc.

[Sollux Captor]

Well, it's clear that there aren't a whole lot of leads.

There have been a number of users posting.
Bullshit.

Like other users are suggesting, I'd like to see thoughts from inactives,

Then spur them to action! Ask questions of them! You guys wonder why everyone's inactive and then you say "well, I'll wait for one of the inactives to speak up." Well of course everyone's going to be inactive if everyone is waiting around for the other person.

[Joltik]

Well, I thought that KB and Midorikawa did have the lynch stopping role, and that Winter Enchantress does look a bit scummy, but I'm trying to reread the whole thread to see what I can find.

You've had two hours. Any thoughts that aren't reiteration?

/late replay is late

Okay, I think that Winter Enchantress has come off as somewhat scummy, and if she is not killed this phase then she should be considered a target. The only reason that a mafia would allow for a vig to live would be if they could get the vig to kill for them, and given that we can't have any talking outside the pairing QT or the thread, I find that unlikely. She could have also be a mafia with an extra kill that would claim vig( I've seen it done before) and would use that kill if the town asked the player to prove the role. I somewhat doubt that, since vig is common enough to be a risky fake claim. So I'm still on the fence on her.


The other person that I find somewhat scummy is FestiveGreen, who posted, made a jokish vote, and hasn't said anything else. I don't really have mush else.

[Momoka]

Okay, I think that Winter Enchantress has come off as somewhat scummy, and if she is not killed this phase then she should be considered a target. The only reason that a mafia would allow for a vig to live would be if they could get the vig to kill for them

While I don't particularly think Winter Enchantress is definitely town, I find it suspicious how you say this. Now that you have said something like this, the mafia would surely not kill her anyway... unless you are scum and not wanting to waste a kill on someone who is already a potential lynch target. I also don't see why the mafia would waste a kill on her anyway, since she has been in the spotlight for potential mafia and a lynch choice. It would seem pointless, and I find it strange how you would bring something up like that.

[Joltik]

Okay, I think that Winter Enchantress has come off as somewhat scummy, and if she is not killed this phase then she should be considered a target. The only reason that a mafia would allow for a vig to live would be if they could get the vig to kill for them

While I don't particularly think Winter Enchantress is definitely town, I find it suspicious how you say this. Now that you have said something like this, the mafia would surely not kill her anyway... unless you are scum and not wanting to waste a kill on someone who is already a potential lynch target. I also don't see why the mafia would waste a kill on her anyway, since she has been in the spotlight for potential mafia and a lynch choice. It would seem pointless, and I find it strange how you would bring something up like that.

Because the vig is a huge threat to the mafia, and that's why a kill would be used. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take the risk. But that's just my thoughts.

[Parma]

I was too busy to post before that point in time, so I noticed the tie and wanted to break it.

[Joltik]

Okay, I think that Winter Enchantress has come off as somewhat scummy, and if she is not killed this phase then she should be considered a target. The only reason that a mafia would allow for a vig to live would be if they could get the vig to kill for them

While I don't particularly think Winter Enchantress is definitely town, I find it suspicious how you say this. Now that you have said something like this, the mafia would surely not kill her anyway... unless you are scum and not wanting to waste a kill on someone who is already a potential lynch target. I also don't see why the mafia would waste a kill on her anyway, since she has been in the spotlight for potential mafia and a lynch choice. It would seem pointless, and I find it strange how you would bring something up like that.

Because the vig is a huge threat to the mafia, and that's why a kill would be used. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take the risk. But that's just my thoughts.

[Akuraito]

Because the vig is a huge threat to the mafia, and that's why a kill would be used. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take the risk. But that's just my thoughts.

twinArmageddons has already demonstrated that it's much more likely that she'll hit a townie over a mafioso, especially with the lack of outside communications.

[Momoka]

and though we can look to the users who voted for KB/Midori, they can't really be blamed for placing their votes for users who turned up as town since we didn't have much information to go by, and that was the best assumption they could make..

As I have been saying in thread, I don't think we should be paying attention to the ones who aggressively voted Midori/KidBeano. Rather, we should be paying attention to the ones who suddenly came in thread with barely anything to contribute on their own besides voting them. We shouldn't ignore everyone who votes them altogether, because surely one of the them was mafia, waiting for the chance to hop onto a promising wagon.

[Joltik]

Because the vig is a huge threat to the mafia, and that's why a kill would be used. If I were mafia, I wouldn't take the risk. But that's just my thoughts.

twinArmageddons has already demonstrated that it's much more likely that she'll hit a townie over a mafioso, especially with the lack of outside communications.

Well, I guess I didn't think of that.

[Oswin]

Also you forgot at least one other player in FestiveGreen and IIRC DrumBeats :P I know you're better than that so I do question the exclusion of those.

I'm not going to make the excuse that I was tired, but I will say that some players slipped my mind to mention. I believe I saw DrumBeats post somewhat recently(maybe 1-2 days ago?) so I didn't think to mention him, but has FestiveGreen spoken up at all?

The other person that I find somewhat scummy is FestiveGreen, who posted, made a jokish vote, and hasn't said anything else. I don't really have mush else.

Sorry about that, been a little busy with irl stuff and whatnot.

I have to say though, I do agree with Haruto about the people who voted for Mido with no actual basis. Also, has [MENTION=29237]DrumBeats[/MENTION]; been active yet?

[Sunburn]

It's not bullshit from my perspective. Most people were posting either about WE who isn't as suspicious at this point, or KB/Midori, who are dead. I'm new to this and still learning to analyze posts, so I'm sure I probably missed something and I'll look over things again, but besides some of the voting last phase which Haruto Tenjo mentioned, I don't see that much.

[Zenax]

"To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements. Lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket, safe, dark, motionless, airless, it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. To love is to be vulnerable."


― C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves

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The canon couple, ready to literally put someone to death with the strength of their love, followed their would-be victims all day long, waiting for an opportunity to strike. Logically, this would be best done in a place where no one could witness the incident. Not-so-logically, the couple happened to follow those who had decided to spend the day in an attraction park.

When the non-canon ship entered a wagon of the Ferris wheel, their assailants entered the one just behind, ready to give chase. The next twenty minutes were nothing short of action-packed and mind-boggling pursuits, but these are details better left out. Point is, once they stepped out of the extreme attraction, they forgot about their murdering plan and instead were stuck with this nuisance called fun. This was not their day.

Nobody has been killed.

It is now Day 3.

1. @Joltik;
2. @Mr. Fahrenheit;
4. @Croag;
5. @Hitomi;
6. @Phoenicks;
7. @jda95;
9. @DrumBeats;
10. @Soulmaster
11. @Sunburn;
12. @twinArmageddons;
13. @Insanish Danish;
14. @Parma;
16. @Merry;
17. @Winter Enchantress;
18. @Aestivate;
19. @Leopard;
21. @Mijzelffan;
22. @Haruto Tenjo;
23. @FestiveGreen;
24. @Aelita;
25. @Akuraito;
26. @Kaito Tenjo;

This phase should end on December 31st at 22:00, Eastern Time.