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    Default Re: The Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert Thread

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    Leaf guard is the worst of the weather abilities which already got nerfed, and would not really fit on an offensive mon. x) Quick feet would be useful in negating paralysis but not that great overall. It's probably best fitted for an offensive ability like contrary, adaptability or tinted lens (not that overpowered since lot's of pokemon 4× resist grass). Something like infiltrator could work too.
    Considering that Serperior already has Contrary, I doubt Sceptile will. Tinted Lens would be a very interesting choice though.
    They STILL haven't released Contrary serperior. Argh.


    Sceptile and Swampert really need mega-evolutions. The fire starter bias really irritates me. Hopefully they just make Blazikenite available in game, instead of producing a second mega evo. The over-designed mess that was Charizard X was bad enough: I think I'll cry if Gamefreak ruin a pokemon I actually like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshawott View Post
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    Personally, I'm thinking something like:

    Mega Sceptile
    Type: Grass/Dragon
    Ability: Leaf Guard/Quick Feet
    Base Stats: 80/75/85/155/85/130

    Mega Swampert
    Type: Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain
    Base Stats: 140/120/100/105/95/50
    I'd like to point out that, unless Move Tutors return, Sceptile only has access to one Special Dragon-type move, and only via breeding.

    Then again, its movepool could always get altered in ORAS.
    Ampharos only learns Dragon Pulse, at level 65. I think it would be quite cool if the Treecko line's movepool was updated so that Grovyle learns Dragonbreath, then Sceptile learns Dragon Pulse. Maybe the Draco Meteor move tutor can be updated to let Ampharos (and Sceptile if it gets a Grass/Dragon Mega) learn Draco Meteor?
    That'd be awesome!

    I was actually a bit surprised to find out that Sceptile's a Special Attacker. It always looked Physical to me. XD

    It could use some more options, certainly. Right now its movepool is overwhelmingly Physical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijzelffan View Post
    It's probably best fitted for an offensive ability like contrary, adaptability or tinted lens (not that overpowered since lot's of pokemon 4× resist grass). Something like infiltrator could work too.
    Tinted Lens would actually be useful to have specifically because so many types resist Grass. It would also allow its Dragon moves to plow through any Steel-type that isn't Mawile or Klefki.
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    Default Re: The Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert Thread

    I feel as if Mega Swampert should get Sheer Force and Sceptile should get Hyper Cutter. Giving Sceptile more physically-oriented stats would be nice, too.

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    I want an archeopteryx Mega Sceptile, along the lines of Grovyle. So Grass/FLYING, or at the very least Grass/Rock or Grass/Dragon with Levitate. And give it 100+ base Attack so we can use a Swords Dance set. If it's Grass/Flying, possibly Intimidate as an ability?

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    Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert must happen. I like the idea of Mega Sceptile getting Dragon for its second type, but I think giving it Psychic-type could be more fitting, since Mega Blaziken is still a Fire/Fighting Pokémon; Mega Sceptile would get some advantage versus Blaziken at last. To complete the circle, Mega Swampert could become a Water/Dark Pokémon, although I'd personally prefer if it remained a Water/Ground-type.

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    Mega Sceptile
    Type: Grass/Dark
    Ability: Moxie or Speed Boost
    Base Stats: 90/85/80/155/40/84

    Mega Swampert
    Type: Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain or Water Absorb
    Base Stats: 165/80/130/70/120/100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha71689 View Post
    Mega Sceptile
    Type: Grass/Dark
    Ability: Moxie or Speed Boost
    Base Stats: 90/85/80/155/40/84

    Mega Swampert
    Type: Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain or Water Absorb
    Base Stats: 165/80/130/70/120/100
    HP unfortunately doesn't increase in Mega Evolutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norzan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha71689 View Post
    Mega Sceptile
    Type: Grass/Dark
    Ability: Moxie or Speed Boost
    Base Stats: 90/85/80/155/40/84

    Mega Swampert
    Type: Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain or Water Absorb
    Base Stats: 165/80/130/70/120/100
    HP unfortunately doesn't increase in Mega Evolutions.
    Oh, right. Let me fix that. ^_^

    Mega Sceptile
    Type: Grass/Dark
    Ability: Moxie or Speed Boost
    Base Stats: 80/85/80/155/40/84

    Mega Swampert
    Type: Water/Ground
    Ability: Storm Drain or Water Absorb
    Base Stats: 140/80/130/70/120/100

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    Default Re: The Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert Thread

    I get that some people like to give Swampert the only Grass-immune ability because they don't like Grass attacks, but it's not wise to do that because it will be a lot better without that weakness, unless a new type revision gives Water more weaknesses. I believe that if Swampert gets a new ability, it would either deal with an extra Water immunity or possibly give it a reduced Ice damage (Thick Fat). That would give it a degree of usefulness without making it too powerful.

    Personally for Sceptile, I would like to see Tough Claws for it since it has a much more varied Physical attacks, so with a bit of direction in stats, it would be a better Physical attacker. Adding Dragon-type would be good, since Dragon Claw is also a contact move, as with Outrage. Let's not forget that Grass Knot is a contact attack, so on the Special side it's not a bad move to use.

    For stats, I think something like this would be good:
    Sceptile: 70 HP / 125 Atk / 75 Def / 125 SpAtk / 95 SpDef / 140 Speed
    Swampert: 100 HP / 150 Atk / 130 Def / 95 SpAtk / 100 SpDef / 60 Speed

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    May I ask what's the fascination with Grass-type/Dragon-type combo? Just curious, not trying to diss anyone for liking it.

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    Default Re: The Mega Sceptile and Mega Swampert Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha71689 View Post
    May I ask what's the fascination with Grass-type/Dragon-type combo? Just curious, not trying to diss anyone for liking it.
    From what I've read, it's because we've never had a Grass/Dragon before, and Sceptile already looks the part, and also has a couple of good Dragon-type moves already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Dunois View Post
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    May I ask what's the fascination with Grass-type/Dragon-type combo? Just curious, not trying to diss anyone for liking it.
    From what I've read, it's because we've never had a Grass/Dragon before, and Sceptile already looks the part, and also has a couple of good Dragon-type moves already.
    Hmm, OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha71689 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha71689 View Post
    May I ask what's the fascination with Grass-type/Dragon-type combo? Just curious, not trying to diss anyone for liking it.
    From what I've read, it's because we've never had a Grass/Dragon before, and Sceptile already looks the part, and also has a couple of good Dragon-type moves already.
    Hmm, OK.
    It also just sounds like a cool idea, especially for many big fans of Sceptile. Like me. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha71689 View Post
    May I ask what's the fascination with Grass-type/Dragon-type combo? Just curious, not trying to diss anyone for liking it.
    He's also in the Dragon Egg Group.

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