Yes, Ash Ketchum should be replaced.
Yes, Ash Ketchum should be replaced.
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For mascots. Then you count in the numerous characters from their animated movies over the decades. For instance, when I look at Disney Parks, you get almost equal representation of many Disney characters, not just Mickey.
No!! Ash is the whole point of the series!! The following plot of the anime is about a young boy who strives to be the pokemon master. What would they use instead of him?
Back to the drawing board!
Maybe for the Pokémon Anime...
I sometimes wonder if the writers want the kids to remember Ash as a stupid trainer. The target audience may be young, but they KNOW enough to tell what's stupid and what's not. I'd say replace Ash instead of insulting him any further with more dumb downgrading and weak development over the series. Seriously, Ash has done a great job putting up with the writer's storyboard downgrading him, and even went with the script on losing to an idiot kid who doesn't even know the rules of the pokemon league. Ash should be remembered as a hero - a competent trainer, a role model for kids, and the boy who strives to be stronger everyday and overcomes his obstacles to eventually get what he wants - NOT the stupid little kid who gets poor development. Best Wishes - especially the League arc really left a bad taste in my mouth that I feel sorry for Ash for having to stay on the show just because he's iconic, and to go through that.
(I'm not including Episode N because that's more focused on N than Ash.)
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Ash was developed really well in DP, and they didn't really do anything with him. He didn't meet his dad. He didn't lose anything life-changing. If they wanted to get rid of Ash, I think they missed the window with the transition from DP to BW. In the games, Unova was a kind of psuedo-reboot, they could've mirrored that by leaving Ash behind and starting the series anew with some new Unova trainer, based on one of the PCs from Black and White.
What Dark Blueberry was saying about Ash being treated as a stupid rookie trainer was right. It makes my blood boil the way he's written and treated by other characters after all the things he's done (a child!) since becoming a Pokémon Trainer.
Do you think that Ash/Satoshi should be replaced? NO.
Ash and Pikachu are the face of the Pokemon franchise. Without them, the ratings will go down and the series will need to get cancelled because the low ratings and the low merchandise. Because Pokemon isn't expected to stop, Ash will stay throught the series.
If Ash were replaceable, they will got rid of him at the end of DP when BW is a reboot. If they didn't do that for BW, they will do that for XY.
Furthermore, the writers are getting secondary effects of the re-start that the gamers imposed to the anime because Black and White are in a way a restart of the series.
Apparently, Brock's leaving hasn't had a secondary effect in the franchise as far as I know although he were for 13 years.
But we know that Dawn's leaving caused a negative effects on the franchise, mainly because the writers substituted Piplup for Axew and they failed to the point that Piplup is having more merchandise than Axew in BW months after Dawn left the show. (Yes, Piplup's merch hasn't stopped). Add to this all the crazy promotion that she will return to the main cast althought they aren't and that Contest was a popular feature among girls where BW didn't have a girl's feature. Remmeber that in BW1 Piplup don't have any merchandise with the exception of Pokemon Center merchandise.
And Team Rocket. We know that Team Rocket's VA don't like playing serious TR but the plot of the series forced them to be serious To the point that there's a Radio Show, Live Caster, and lots of specialss where Team Rocket were acting funny. To add this, now (with the exception of this week episode) Team Rocket are doing a mix of serious and funny Team Rocket by having traits of serious TR but returning some things like blasting-off, the baloon, etc. And remember that Wobbuffet could return to Kanto.
Bringing this from the Iris and Cilan departure thread to discuss here:
Now, to bring this back to Pokemon and the issue of replacing Ash, while I don't think it would really hurt the show, I still think that it's just far too late to do something like that with Ash. The DM cast were pretty much done and given the setup for the franchise, they couldn't just reset Yugi as their mascot lead character for every new series like they've done with Ash. One could make a good argument that they've done all they can with Ash too, but the difference is that the setup with Pokemon allows for the writers to give him a fresh start with each new series regardless of his accomplishments before. Plus, with Yu-Gi-Oh!, a new series pops up every few years, which makes the transition from a new cast less jarring than replacing the main lead after sixteen years. They could have replaced Ash years ago when AG started and it probably would have been fine, but now, it's just too late. At least when they replaced the cast after DM, it was only about five years after the series started. I doubt it would hurt the show that much, but I don't see why they would take the risk at this point.
YES! YES! YES! Ash needs to go! He has been getting annoying since the beginning of BW. I think he should have left when Sinnoh ended since I feel that is where he was the strongest. In BW, they basically took all of Ash's accomplishments and intelligence and just destroyed it. He lost several battles with a newbie trainer and regressed in his league position since DP. Who knows whet they'll do in XY? Maybe he won't get past round 2 in the league.
Ash is no closer to becoming a Pokemon master than he was in Pokemon!-I choose you and I think it's time to end his story. Having another series based around Ash getting battles to win the league only to lose and repeat the cycle again would be ultimate torture. Pikachu as well is getting annoying, becoming randomly overpowered and depowered throughout a series.
We need someone new. Someone intelligent and something fresh. Personally, I want a new female star since we've been focusing so much on Ash while the females get secondary roles, but I know that it will never happen. Ash being replaced is something I feel will never happen. In fact, sometimes I can't see Pokemon itself ever ending. But a girl can dream.
There's no telling what might happen. If the show is willing to take a chance - to completely reboot the show and create an entirely new atmosphere by replacing Ash with a new character, I don't see why they shouldn't do that. The show will always focus on the new kids, and the new kids don't exactly need Ash to enjoy the show. New tries are never too late, and the new character could be easily popular as Ash in a different way. If the writers are creative enough, they can make a character that's different from Ash with a different quest - there can be many different ways to write the show while bringing traits from the game. The new character can be iconic - or even more popular than Ash some 10 years later as well. There's no telling what might happen. The results could be negative, but they could also be more than positive. All possibilities should be considered.
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In my opinion instead of replacing Ash and rebooting anime risking alot with such move, i believe better and more appreciated solution long term would be in writers doing changes in other ways which don't necessarily such drastic actions.
Such as stopping with character cycling for change bringing some of all time favorites(like Misty, May,Dawn etc)to do build up on their stories and tie up loose ends giving us more substantial growth, instead of getting another greenhorn.
Doing more bold step forward with current protagonist such as continuation of Ash story entering harder challenges, battling various evaluators to defend his reputation and going on higher levels as trainer advancing his career of becoming master, beyond simple win of one league and challenging E4. Actually having experience behind him with basics being covered.
Provide small, but effective modifications which could recapture people interest.
Like giving Ash competent female rival for change.
I see people complaining how Ash has no point to him anymore being time to go, but idea of replacing everything and everyone is worst out of them all imo, because issue doesn't lie in characters but writers and their lack of incentive to write things in more profound, complex way. Sure you could replace everyone and form new cast, but that wont change anything for better still dealing with shallow plot, one dimensional characters etc. While killing any chance in return of older characters we grew to appreciate like being seen again wasting lot of potential to do much more with them.
Even if fans are currently sick, grew tired of certain characters everything which was broken with good writing and right ideas in writers mind can be fixed again recapturing viewers lost interest starting to enjoy in those same characters again just like they would in new ones.
Main difference between traveling companions and Ash is that he is driving force of pokemon series with whole story revolving around his journey.He is main source of profit which drives new generations toward this show with both older and younger fans associating pokemon series with him and yellow rodent. Its not, Iris, Dawn, Misty, May, Brock etc but Ash, and when you build iconic status around some character representing pokemon anime for 15 years, he becomes irreplaceable.
Everyone else are expendable with people being used to traveling companions getting replaced accepting it(aside from few exceptions).
Unlike them Ash is actually main star which is representing pokemon series with whole story revolving around it being most popular, iconic and recognized character worldwide. He and Pikachu at this point became integrated within pokemon with people getting used to them so much(many even attached) that pokemon series are associated with this two being their icons.
And im of belief how having them replaced after such long time would be surely reckless and bad move being underrated how popular and iconic to audience he really is, with complete overhaul doing nothing but ruining positive image pokemon series established about themselves.
I would for sure rather follow continuation of Ash story entering harder challenges, battling various evaluators to defend his reputation and advancing on higher levels as trainer advancing his career of becoming master, beyond simple win of one league. actually having experience behind him with basics being covered.
That would be ultimately more fresh and exciting to see than following alternate version of Ash character going through baby steps all over again.
I still don't see any reason for them to take that risk. Technically, they could do that since they're the writers, but why would they want to take the risk of replacing the main character who has been promoted with the anime for the last sixteen years? It could turn out fine, but it could also blow up right in their faces, so I don't see why they would take a risk that huge. There's no guarantee that the new character would be as popular as Ash or even more popular and while each series does try out new things, I just don't think that's a possibility at this point at all. I can completely understand why people want Ash to be replaced, but from a marketing and financial standpoint, I see no reason why the writers would do that. They've had plenty of opportunities to do so over the years, but they never showed any interest in replacing him and after keeping him around for well over a decade, they aren't going to replace him.Originally Posted by Dark Blueberry