"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the Pokémon they love best". -Karen
"For every pokemon there is a purpose and a time when it can shine under the sun." -Blue1225
The anime would've been a little better if Trip was replaced with Cheren. Cheren with his personality in the games. I find Cheren to be a quite competitive rival - somewhat power-hungry, knowledgable, not a stuck-up, and nice in some ways. If done right, he could've appeared as a slighty snobby child prodigy and it would've been okay. I can imagine a friendly rivalry, and informations given and taken with slight reluctance, but out of kindness XDD
I agree with one of the users above me that Paul was the most closest thing ever to Silver in the games, and even though I disliked his personality, I enjoyed his storyline. He was epic, and I found myself looking forward to Paul episodes. Gary had the right personalities representing the rival in Gen1 and III, but the amount of screentime was just not enough.
Trip... I don't know what to say about him. He's not Paul, he's not Gary, he's not like Cheren, and he's not even like those nice rivals in the Hoenn games. His character isn't well-defined. He's a mashup of loads of other rivals, and his personality isn't distinguishable. He should've been given a more unique attitude.
This show knows
People are saying that Trip is mash up of every rival ever gone wrong, and I agree. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever when creative rivals like N exist. I also hear that Trip exist because the younger audience needs to be taught the "basics" of Pokemon. Again, this was Cheren's role throughout most of the B/W games so they should have just used him for it.
With Trip nobody gives a hoot. We all know that hes stalkin people, climbin in their windows, and taking their pictures anyways. Also putting down the occasional Kanto civilian/tourist. No, he doesn't train because he doesn't have to, like a good little Sue character.
Last edited by El_; 3rd November 2011 at 03:04 AM.
The writers are lazy. Let's just call it what it is. Which is lazyness. They could have made Trip more interesting and maintain a better rivalry for you people if some people weren't so lazy. It's not that Trip is ugly, or anything. His rivalry with Ash just needs to have more of a reason for it. I like Trip's design and his voice. (Can't really tell the difference between his and Paul's)
But like alot of things in this show, (Ash, Pokemon, battles) there is alot of things that could be done better. This is why I think that DP is one of the best because someone was working their butt off.
And when I said "minor" antagonist I was saying that Ghetsis is the main bad guy because he really doesn't care about Pokemon and just used N.
Well, he's not especially INTERESTING. He just needs some backstory. Like, maybe that camera was his only friend growing up... So he takes pictures to ease the pain of never having a real friend. If any of that just made sense. I was kind of typing without thinking.
I wanted Cheren to be the rival!!! Cheren is so cool. I mean, he doesn't really look like he'd fit in with the rest of them, but still. I think Cheren would've given some spark to the show. Which is just what we need.
Now, about some people saying that N needs to be the rival... No. Just no. If any of you have seen my other post, I'm going to repeat myself. N is way too awesome to be shoved as a rival. He isn't dull and he isn't goofy!! Besides, that would mess up his backstory, which I cannot have. Why would N keep coming back to test his skills against Ash?! he wants to free Pokemon from trainers. He only battles because he thinks that will help move along this plan. This wouldn't work at all!!!
Besides, I like the thought of N being the minor antagonist. Of course, ugly Ghetsis gets to be the major villain, since he's behind the scenes pulling the strings.
Well, either way, I just need N to show up and retain his awesome personality.
I think we're derailing a bit too much off of the topic of Shooty.
Whoops, sorry about that.
Trip is like Cheren, but different. And in no other Pokemon season have they used a rival from the game. Oh, and I thought the whole battle between Trip and Cilan was interesting in the Don battle episode(s). I wish he would have stayed a bit longer though... His logic was interesting to me(about by watching he won't get any stronger), which no other rival has had before.
Honestly, I thought Trip's logic was kinda bullshit. Sore loser or not, training on your own is not the only way to get more powerful. Watching other people battle, seeing their techniques and strategies go a long way in teaching a trainer how many methods of battling there are, and a taste of what Trip himself may have to encounter either during his journey or during the Unova League. So Trip is only screwing himself out of gaining more knowledge and experience just because he's being a petty little bitch about losing so early on.
Though honestly, I'm kinda glad he didn't stick around because his input was pointlessly negative; he was pretty much a male Iris in this saga before he was up to battle. So it's a weird trade-off.
This may be a stretch, but I think Trip's reaction and decision to make an early exit here might confirm that he's not really a prodigy after all (unless he's one of the bullshit variety like Iris is). Sure, Paul made an early exit in the League, but he's experienced. Vastly experienced compared to Trip. And it turned out that he watched the Ash/Tobias battle on TV anyway, so there you go.
So yeah. Trip makes idiotic statements, which would actually make sense because he's a n00b, but nothing will come of this. He'll be back to being superior to Ash for no reason the next time they battle, I'm sure, and this will all be largely inconsequential.
Hmm... I don't think Trip is really smart with battling. I mean, watching IS kind of a way of learning. I mean, as an example, if Pikachu touched a hot stove and Oshawott saw what happened, he'd learn not to do what Pikachu did. Like asking questions. You learn if you ask, but if you keep it to yourself, you'll never learn.
I just think what Trip really needs is a REASON. What is he fighting for? Alder? His camera? Himself? We don't know any of that. I mean, I think Trip should explain what it is about Ash that he doesn't like. Like, we know why Paul is battling. And Barry doesn't really need a reason. He's just hyped up on coffee Barry.
I still think that the people who don't like Trip STILL aren't going to like him, even IF he does do something good. If he does get some type of shallow back story, then you'll all just probably say he's being like Paul... Paul was a good rival, make no mistake, but... I think Trip messed himself up from the beginning. Like a scar that will never heal.
I think there should be some shocking discovery that Trip was actually spying on Ash for Team Plasma!!! Ha ha.... That would never happen. He should get some interaction with N, though.
And about Trip not being a prodigy, maybe he isn't, but tries to make himself believe he is? That could be interesting...
Seriously, I just can't think of anything Trip has that is worth mentioning or that makes him a compelling rival.
Trip is going to need more than an older brother (a Reggie) or stalker with a man-crush (a Barry, oh how I miss Barry...) to make him entertaining to watch.