I think X and Y take place after B2W2, so RSEmakes are not necessary. If this happens, I would prefer to having RS sequels (Ruby 2 and Sapphire 2 anyone?) instead of remakes.
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I think X and Y take place after B2W2, so RSEmakes are not necessary. If this happens, I would prefer to having RS sequels (Ruby 2 and Sapphire 2 anyone?) instead of remakes.
I really don't get how it being a sequel means the RSEmakes can't happen, they can be remakes, set in the period of time equal to the original games. Even though I like the idea of sequels to Emerald (presumably the canon game), it still doesn't rule out remakes.
Oh this thread again? Well seeing as how the time in conjunction with the remakes is an argument, I would expect it not to have any significance. If anything, they could utilize the time as a way to give us a far off sequel to RSE instead of pure remakes.
That's only true for Generation III. In Generation IV it was the other way around: the main games were made to take place in the same timeframe as the (then future) remakes, not vice versa. Second, you can trade Pokémon with someone from the future: you could do it in Gen I with Gen II thanks to the time capsule, and even in this current generation you can trade without restriction between BW and B2W2 despite the fact that in the former, you're trading with someone from the future (not only that, but you can trade your Reshiram/Zekrom which would practically defeat the purpose of the whole game's plot, yet nothing happens if you do that), the paradoxes are just ignored in favor of gameplay (see "story and gameplay segregation"), thus, if Hoenn remakes were made for Gen VI, there's nothing to impede us to trade with XY despite the timeline differences. And finally, after what happened in Gen V we're not even sure if Gen VI will have RSE remakes, so restricting the series advacement and go back a whopping ten whole years in the series timeline only for the sake of nonconfirmed remakes is just plain stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaPandaBear
For one, I don't think the games will have a Mewtwo plotline, at all. Yes, Mewtwo is a genetically enginereed Pokémon, but so is Genesect and, to a degree, the Porygon line, and not to mention that new genetic Pokémon most probably will be introduced to fulfill the game's plot. We've never seen older legendaries playing a major role in a newer game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silktree
You're assuming Mewtwo is possible just because of the genetic theme and its appearance in the next movie, however, let's not forget that Mew also appearaed in the Lucario movie and played a major role in it, yet Mew never played a role in DPPt's plot. See where I'm going? Just because a Pokémon appears in a movie doesn't mean it will be important to the next games plot. My hypothesis (and a better explanation) is that Mewtwo was placed there to make a connection with Genesect, another Pokémon genetically engineered and who will be the star of the film; not with XY. We know XY will be about genetics, but we still don't know what role will genetics play in the game, and engineering is not the only way that can be played.
If anything, its more probable that Genesect will fill that role in XY instead of Mewtwo (although its most probable that the role will be played by a Gen VI creature. Doesn't that make sense?) given that Genesect is a recent Pokémon and hasn't had much focus in the games, unlike Mewtwo who already had its own story in RGBY/FRLG and gameplaywise has been used ad nauseam. Sure, I'm not against Mr. Fuji appearing again, I would actually like it and that'd make a lot of sense, but it's not like Mewtwo is the only thing he's ever done in his lifetime, nor they're forever tied with each other to make it mandatory that if Fuji appears so does Mewtwo. Fuji can appear and even play a major role without Mewtwo being involved; at much, he would probably mention during his introduction speech that he has expertise in the field because long ago he took part in the creation of a genetically altered Pokémon.
Well the main reason why I want to see X&Y as a prequel is because the series is developing too far into the future. Oak may be a senile old man by Black and White 2's time so if X&Y is a decade after Black and White 2 then he's probably dead by then. Whereas a prequel would do the exact opposite effect: Oak, along with some other senior characters, could be presented in their youths. So rewind the timeline a little and there's no need to kill off the older characters. And like I said before, it would be pretty cool to see a younger Lance, Cynthia and/or Alder starting off on their journeys like you are, aspiring to be champions of their regions. Doesn't anyone else want to see that? And plus, we never had a prequel in the main games before (if you don't count Generation III being a prequel to Generation II). It would be something new that would be pretty cool to see.
Okay and I don't want to sound rude here but seriously guys, let the RSE remakes go. If Game Freak ever wanted to remake the RSE games, then they would have done so in Generation V. But they didn't so it's likely not gonna happen in Generation VI or the future. The main purpose of the remake games were because the original games weren't compatible with the current games. If they were then, dare I say, they probably wouldn't have been remade. RSE are still compatible with the current generations so there's no need to remake those games. And plus, if RSE remakes were in Generation V, then would there be DPPt remakes in Generation VI? DPPt are still selling in stores (though not as much as before, admittingly) and it was only a few years since they were released and they're still perfectly compatible with the current games. So I will say it again: please, just please, let the idea of RSE remakes go.
The whole prequel idea sounds cool for a future generation, but I don't think it'll be this one. Probably sometime after BW2. I'd still like to know what the time between II/IV and V is. Game Freak have already made time paradoxes considering how none of the PWT trainers have aged at all (the worst being Tate and Liza).
I believe it will take place after Gen V, but calling it a 'sequel' sounds weird. I know what you mean, but to me the only true sequels were Black 2 and White 2. Maaaaybe Gold and Silver, since they were originally titled 'Pocket Monsters 2'. But just because the games follow on from each other chronologically doesn't make them all sequels to their predecessors.
But yeah, a few years after gen V would be cool. Enough time for them to have 'discovered' new evolutions for old pokemon, and for some of our key characters to have changed a little if they make a cameo.
I agree with your general idea, although personally I think that the original DP (but not Platinum) were in techincally sequels to GSC, because the definition of sequel is 'consequence', and in DP, your character's journey starts because of the Red Gyarados incident that occured in GSC, thus, its a consequence of it, therefore, a sequel. That's why I disliked the opening to the Platinum story for removing that tie-in.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySasaki
I think that remakes are pretty much needed now that Gen. III Pokémon have become harder and harder to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaPandaBear
RSEFRLG are compatible with Gen. IV via the GBA slot in the DS and DSlite systems, but pretty much everyone has carried on now and use a DSi or 3DS instead. Not everyone have old DSs anymore. Also, you still need to have the old games, and that's something harder to get. Also, wouldn't you want to explore Hoenn in 3DS graphics?
Now, Gen. IV doesn't really need remakes as long as this and the next gens. consoles are able to play DS games. Otherwise, it could be Gen. IV's time, although I don't see that happening in a long time.
We can hope don't you think?
On Topic: I would love prequels. It would be cool to see old/current technology instead of the futuristic world we see in Pokémon. I've read many cool ideas regarding prequels and I agree with most.
One thing I must ask though...why do the Gym leaders from other regions not look like they aged a day if it's been around 8 years since the events of HGSS? One could say for familiarity sake, but still.
Well, if they do a more classical theme for it, than the new Gen being prequels makes sense. I don't mind either way though, and I imagine them being sequels is most likely.
The Red Gyarados report was evidence of the Johto and Sinnoh stories being roughly contemporary, rather than one being a sequel of the other. The way Platinum handled the report made that more obvious, but the stories were contemporary to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by VeggiePopper
The whole thing with connectivity was thrown out of the window with BW2s release, because it happens 2 years after BW but you still can trade Pokemon perfectly fine. So XY can take place maybe 2 years after BW2 and they could still introduce RSEmakes along the way. If not they still can have the "time-machine" from GenII re-used.
In DP, it is the TV report that tiggers the protagonists journeys: Barry watches it on TV and urges the player to go to their local lake to see if they can find another red Gyarados. Then at the lake, they find Rowan's suitcase and are forced to use his Pokémon to defend from the wild Starly that attacked them while they were trying to retrieve it, which in turns makes Rowan realize their potential as trainers and let them keep the Pokémon and finally suggest them that they go complete the Pokédex. See? Had the red Gyarados plot from GSC not happened, none of that would have happened either and therefore the Sinnoh protagonists' journeys wouldn't have happened at all, therefore, DP's story is techincally a consequence of GSC's events, thus, a sequel. I know that wasn't GF's intention (what with Pt. erasing the connection), but it ended up that way. So yes, even if not intended, DP is an indirect sequel to GSC.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilktreeThe Red Gyarados report was evidence of the Johto and Sinnoh stories being roughly contemporary, rather than one being a sequel of the other. The way Platinum handled the report made that more obvious, but the stories were contemporary to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by VeggiePopper
That's why I clearly said it was just the case of DP, not Platinum; I don't know why you bring Pt. up when I myself admited that it retonned that part and removed the relationship, which is soemthing I lament.
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It should take place now but I'm thinking maybe in the summer if they would hurry up and complete the game already. If not, then fall of 2013. Any later would be suicide for me.