Thread: Starter Discussion and Speculation

I am hoping for quadrupedal evolutions for at least two starters. Fennekin is very likely, but I can't picture Froakie evolving into a quadrupedal thing (But then again, I would never imagine that Oshawott would evolve into that weird abomination). I don't know, maybe it could evolve in a Swampert-like Pokémon, that is both quadrupedal and bipedal.

Originally Posted by Tendou Soujirou

Chespin: Grass/Bug

That would be interesting, there was never a Pokémon gaining a Bug secondary type after an evolution.

Originally Posted by Reila

I am hoping for quadrupedal evolutions for at least two starters. Fennekin is very likely, but I can't picture Froakie evolving into a quadrupedal thing (But then again, I would never imagine that Oshawott would evolve into that weird abomination). I don't know, maybe it could evolve in a Swampert-like Pokémon, that is both quadrupedal and bipedal.

Originally Posted by Tendou Soujirou

Chespin: Grass/Bug

That would be interesting, there was never a Pokémon gaining a Bug secondary type after an evolution.

interesting yes! but highly unlikely for a starter. bug/grass has a toooon of weaknesses. fire/bug or even water/bug would be much better combinations for a starter. but none of the three this gen look remotely buggy.

Originally Posted by TheBugChampion

interesting yes! but highly unlikely for a starter. bug/grass has a toooon of weaknesses. fire/bug or even water/bug would be much better combinations for a starter. but none of the three this gen look remotely buggy.

True, but so does Grass/Dark and Grass/Flying, yet there is a lot of people expecting/speculating this type for Chespin. That said, I agree about the unlikeliness, the Bug-type isn't really popular, I doubt they would take the risk and make a starter with a Bug secondary type.

Originally Posted by Reila

Originally Posted by TheBugChampion

interesting yes! but highly unlikely for a starter. bug/grass has a toooon of weaknesses. fire/bug or even water/bug would be much better combinations for a starter. but none of the three this gen look remotely buggy.

True, but so does Grass/Dark and Grass/Flying, yet there is a lot of people expecting/speculating this type for Chespin. That said, I agree about the unlikeliness, the Bug-type isn't really popular, I doubt they would take the risk and make a starter with a Bug secondary type.

You're right. I highly doubt chespin would be Grass/Flying or Grass/Dark because of those weaknesses. But anything is possible. :) well, except dragon. i doubt a starter would be part dragon. lol

Actually, I really could see a Fire/Bug caterpillar>cocoon>Beetle starter or a Water/Bug larva>shrimp>Lobster starter in the future. Bug types are a lot more popular than people think ;). But that would have to be when they are really feeling adventurous. SO far none of the type combos for starters have been THAT adventurous except for Empoleon, in my opinon.

Originally Posted by TheBugChampion

You're right. I highly doubt chespin would be Grass/Flying or Grass/Dark because of those weaknesses. But anything is possible. :) well, except dragon. i doubt a starter would be part dragon. lol

I'd bet Chespin as Grass/Fighting-type because of his humanoid appearance at my first glance. His humanoid appearance could also making his final evo becomes Grass/Dark-type (remember Cacturne?). Grass/Flying could be possible, but I might doubt a hedgehog can evolve into a flying squirrel as these two belongs to separate category. But Chespin can be based on a chipmunk, so this would making him evolving into part Flying-type much easier (as chipmunk and flying squirrel are rodents). Yes, Grass/Flying types are immune to Ground attacks, but weak to Ice attacks. But I'd reckon Flying-types over Fighting and Dark types.

I've seen a salamander evolve into a dragon (Charmander line) and an otter evolving into a sea lion (Oshawott line), so a supposedly hedgehog evolving into a chipmunk wouldn't be that weird.

Originally Posted by TheBugChampion

You're right. I highly doubt chespin would be Grass/Flying or Grass/Dark because of those weaknesses. But anything is possible. :) well, except dragon. i doubt a starter would be part dragon. lol

Actually, I really could see a Fire/Bug caterpillar>cocoon>Beetle starter or a Water/Bug larva>shrimp>Lobster starter in the future. Bug types are a lot more popular than people think ;). But that would have to be when they are really feeling adventurous. SO far none of the type combos for starters have been THAT adventurous except for Empoleon, in my opinon.

I don't think weaknesses alone is a good reason to dismiss a type combination possibility. Torterra have four weaknesses, one of them is 4X to Ice-type moves. Charizard has three, not too much, but one is 4X to common Rock-type attacks. Anyway, I like your idea of a Fire/Bug starter, but what I am hoping since the introduction of Surskit is a Water/Bug one, it could be based on the same insect as Surskit, only with a different and more developed design.

About the Bug-type popularity, thanks to Unova and Sinnoh to some extent, the type is getting a bit of respect, but I think it still is one of the least popular types along Rock and Poison. That is a shame, though, as much as I hate bugs IRL, the Bug-type Pokémon usually have neat and/or cute designs.

Chespin might have a grass/rock type (though I'm still counting on dark). It could get a stony armor covering its body that resembles the shell of a nut or something. And it can have a field of bristling pine needles as its quills.

Originally Posted by Ryuutakeshi

Chespin might have a grass/rock type (though I'm still counting on dark). It could get a stony armor covering its body that resembles the shell of a nut or something. And it can have a field of bristling pine needles as its quills.

That would be great! Exactly what I was hoping for! I wish it would get its own signature move as well, even if only for one Generation.

As a Fire type lover and usually a Fire starter, I am glad to say I will definitely be going with Fennekin. Usually I will choose the fire type as my starter because it is one of my favourite types, although the last two generations I went with grass instead because it took me a while to get used to Chimchar and Tepig. I didn't fall for these two like I did with the previous three Fire starter Pokemon quickly, but after a while I was used to their looks and didn't think they were as strange as i first felt they were. If I were to go back and play those games, I say I would have chosen Chimchar and Tepig this time.

With that being said, I loved the look of Fennekin instantly and I am very happy I find this generation's Fire type starter to look the best and look great.

I still find it crazy how popular Fennekin is, not just on this forum too. Though Vulpix, Eevee and Zorua are all similar and they are quite popular too. Maybe it's because I like all three almost equally (hence why I haven't voted on the poll yet, because I can't decide) that I still find it crazy.

I wonder if Froakie will learn Cotton Guard, or some variant of it. Assuming the foam covers more of its body once it evolves, those foams bubbles look like they could form a nice defensive buff just like Cotton Guard does. Maybe it will get its own signature move I can hope.

Originally Posted by Zeb

I still find it crazy how popular Fennekin is, not just on this forum too. Though Vulpix, Eevee and Zorua are all similar and they are quite popular too. Maybe it's because I like all three almost equally (hence why I haven't voted on the poll yet, because I can't decide) that I still find it crazy.

I wonder if Froakie will learn Cotton Guard, or some variant of it. Assuming the foam covers more of its body once it evolves, those foams bubbles look like they could form a nice defensive buff just like Cotton Guard does. Maybe it will get its own signature move I can hope.

yeah, maybe i'm just not into foxes or that whole... vein... and zorua was just like... negative-cute to me. haha.

but i'm really having a hard time between froakie and chespin. same with gen V, the final forms will decide. Oshawott was soooo cute and Samurott was bad-ass but snivy was too sassy and Serperior was orgasmic - despite being just grass. looooove my serperior.

Based on what we know so far, I'd say my preferences go like this:

Fennekin > Chespin > Froakie

But that could very well change depending on what they evolve into, I remember I had a completely different opinion on the 5th gen starters once their final forms were revealed.

Come on you guys. We all know why Fennekin is so popular:

I have to clarify that it's a joke, don't I.

Getting kicked of the forums for this one.

Vulpix, Eevee, Zorua, Fennekin...

On their popularity, I'm going to guess on (in no order):

1. Super cute little animals
2. Foxes
3. Eeveelutions (Eevee's case)
4. Furry fandom

Originally Posted by Akira Bond

As a Fire type lover and usually a Fire starter, I am glad to say I will definitely be going with Fennekin. Usually I will choose the fire type as my starter because it is one of my favourite types, although the last two generations I went with grass instead because it took me a while to get used to Chimchar and Tepig. I didn't fall for these two like I did with the previous three Fire starter Pokemon quickly, but after a while I was used to their looks and didn't think they were as strange as i first felt they were. If I were to go back and play those games, I say I would have chosen Chimchar and Tepig this time.

With that being said, I loved the look of Fennekin instantly and I am very happy I find this generation's Fire type starter to look the best and look great.

I'm a fellow Fire Type fan, and until I actually sat down and thought about it the other day, I didn't even realise that I haven't picked the Fire Type starter since Charmander! Holy crap! (I came pretty close with Cyndaquil but Chikorita with her cute necklace and dinosaury-ness just beat him)

It's nice to pick a starter who is my fave type again. I'm gonna be honest - no matter what Fennekin's evos turn out to look like, I'm happy with my choice. That little fennec fox is so gosh darn cute I could put him in a pie <3 and hey, there's always X version to play through with Chespin and Froakie!