Thread: Starter Discussion and Speculation

Originally Posted by Reila

Wat, I though there was mentions about the typings of the starters final stages in the site...
But there isn't... so... I guess we can keep speculating their final types. :P

Originally Posted by Jungleluke

I liked the last evo of the Gen 5 starters very much, it's up to the person ;)

I liked them two, except Samurott, but that doesn't change the fact the execution was lame.
Serperior and Samurott could have been Grass/Something and Water/Something, their movepools were lame in BW, etc.

Execution wasn't really lame in my opinion and why always dual-typed? It doesn't fit those two at all to be honest. (again, a personal opinion)

BTW, it's too, not two;)

Originally Posted by Jolty94

It's apparently been confirmed on Serebii that Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie will all be pure Grass, Fire and Water types... What do you guys think?

No surprise there. I doubt this will include their evos as well, but I wouldn't mind fully evolved pure type starters.

If they did actually make them fully evolved pure types, it would be the first time since Gen II.

The source of Serebii:
Pokémon X and Pokémon Y

Bam! There you have it! Only the first stages!

I am hoping Fennekins final form won't be Fire/Fighting... really, really hoping. As for Gen V, I only liked Serperior design wise, I feel Emboar is just a chubby Infernape with crappy Defenses...

I liked all the designs for the final forms of the Gen V starters, but Samurott needed to be Water/Fighting, Emboar should have been Fire/Dark, and Serperior probably should have had a second type too. Honestly stick a gem on its head and it could be grass/ Psychic.

And that SumoFroakie evo is tge awesomest thing I have ever seen.

Originally Posted by Jungleluke

Execution wasn't really lame in my opinion and why always dual-typed? It doesn't fit those two at all to be honest.
(again, a personal opinion)

BTW, it's too, not two;)

Because people (a lot of them, at least) enjoy dual-typed starters? And usually dual-typed Pokémon are better than single-typed?
And aren't opinions always personal? lol

Yeah, my bad. lol

Originally Posted by throwerofstones

Samurott needed to be Water/Fighting, Emboar should have been Fire/Dark, and Serperior probably should have had a second type too. Honestly stick a gem on its head and it could be grass/ Psychic.

I agree, but they would have to change Emboar's basis, because "Dark" doesn't fit the character of "Journey to the West" it was based on.
Serperior should have been Grass/Dragon or even Grass/Psychic.

I personally would have been fine with Grass/Dragon, but I know a lot of people would have objected to it being overpowered.

Personally I think a Water/Ice, Grass/Dragon, and Fire/Steel would make an interesting triplet for starters. Both the Water and the Fire starter become super effective over the Grass one, but the Grass one is an "uber" typing.

Of course though nobody would ever choose the Water/Ice starter, though.

Originally Posted by Reila

I agree, but they would have to change Emboar's basis, because "Dark" doesn't fit the character of "Journey to the West" it was based on.
Serperior should have been Grass/Dragon or even Grass/Psychic.

Dark could've worked as well IIRC since Zhu Bajie did have some less then noble tendencies and was banished from heaven.

Can we not get too distracted with the Gen V starters. This thread isn't about them or what types they should have been. Focus on the Gen VI starters please.

Originally Posted by Zweilous

Dark could've worked as well IIRC since Zhu Bajie did have some less then noble tendencies and was banished from heaven.

Is that so? I didn't really read Journey to the West.

I was liking the references to the characters of the said novel. Do you think Froakie could possibly have some relation to Sha Wujing
Its final evolution being something kappa-like would be very cool.

How about this?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6954285056/hEA4E73D9/

Originally Posted by Reila

Originally Posted by Zweilous

Dark could've worked as well IIRC since Zhu Bajie did have some less then noble tendencies and was banished from heaven.

Is that so? I didn't really read Journey to the West.

I was liking the references to the characters of the said novel. Do you think Froakie could possibly have some relation to Sha Wujing
Its final evolution being something kappa-like would be very cool.

It's definitely possible, I'm personally hoping for that so that we can get the complete main fighters of the group.

Originally Posted by martianmister

How about this?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6954285056/hEA4E73D9/

Lol, as an Animorph's fan that's actually pretty fitting.

Originally Posted by martianmister

How about this?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6954285056/hEA4E73D9/

....I am never going to be able to look at Chespin the same ever again.

On the topic of Froakie, I actually like the theory that its final evolution could be based on a character from Journey to the West, or Sha Wujing specifically. I was actually wondering myself sometime ago if we would get another such Pokemon to essentially complete the cast. Well I guess there's Xuanzang too, but that might be harder.

Originally Posted by martianmister

How about this?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6954285056/hEA4E73D9/

Well, Xerneas does remind me of an Andalite...

I'm definitely on the bandwagon for Fennekin not being a fighting type. I'd actually prefer it stay pure fire, though I'd be fine with the other two taking secondary types. I don't really care for the fact that they've drawn inspiration for two starters from one literary source now, so I'd rather they stay away from Journey to the West for this Gen.

Originally Posted by Purellian

I don't really care for the fact that they've drawn inspiration for two starters from one literary source now, so I'd rather they stay away from Journey to the West for this Gen.

I don't think Fennekin is based on a character from that novel. As far as I know there is no fox characters on it.
So, the possibilities of it becoming a Fire/Fighting Pokémon are quite low imo.

If anything, like was said in the previous posts, who can possibly have an evolution based on a Journey to the West character in this generation, is Froakie.