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    Yeah, I guess the only reason this guy's been getting any attention is because he got lucky and managed to get one thing right, that there'd be a new Eeveelution.

    Compare that to the numerous inconsistencies and inaccuracies:
    -Saying that there'd be no new Pokemon related to old Pokemon, and then saying we'd be getting an Eeveelution.
    -When confronted with old threads of his where he speculated on English names and criticized Nintendo/GameFreak for the Pokemon designs, he said he was only joking in one thread, and was still an intern when he posted another one of the threads, that thread was posted in early 2010.
    -A little bit later, he mentioned that he was leaking names back in 2003, and linked to a thread to "prove" it. So he was an intern for 7 years? And somehow had more access back at the beginning than he did later on?
    -The thread he linked to as proof that he had leaked names in the past turned out to be a fan who was simply compiling a list of names.
    -Saying he leaked "Snivy" even though Serebii had already confirmed it before he claimed to have leaked it
    -Referring to Snivy as "Smugleaf" before its official name became known
    -Claiming that he knew when new Pokemon designs would be released, and that a group of 5 including the new Eevee evolution would be unveiled in March. We got Sylveon this month.
    -Saying that they changed the ending of Xerneas's name from the original Japanese name, only for it to easily be verified that the English and Japanese names are the same.
    -And one of my favorites: Claiming that the legendaries are based on Japanese folklore, and that Xerneas is based on Shishigami, you know, from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P

    So yeah, busted.

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    from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P
    Lol.

    Is this the same guy who said the new Eeveelution would be flying type? Because as much as I doubt him I really am thinking that Sylveon's a flying type, and a LOT of people may start believing him if that one thing turns out to be right.

    Ugh, the mysterious Sylveon. I can't believe we have to wait another month to find out what type that cute lil critter is. More importantly, I can't believe we're all so confused about an Eeveelution's typing. Who knew the day would come, right?

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    Is this the same guy who said the new Eeveelution would be flying type? Because as much as I doubt him I really am thinking that Sylveon's a flying type, and a LOT of people may start believing him if that one thing turns out to be right.
    That's what I said, when someone puts lots of stuff on the internet, eventually will hit something.

    Something like this happened here in my country (Chile), with a bunch of babblers who claimed on TV to be able to predict earthquakes. They "predicted" so many earthquakes, eventually one of those happened actually (oh, what a merit, predicting a quake on the second-most sismically active country in the WORLD). However, since they hit one, everyone forgot absolutely about the other fails and praised them as heroes. That could be roughly the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    And one of my favorites: Claiming that the legendaries are based on Japanese folklore, and that Xerneas is based on Shishigami, you know, from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P
    This one is actually still up in the air until we get more information that just its name and design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerony View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    And one of my favorites: Claiming that the legendaries are based on Japanese folklore, and that Xerneas is based on Shishigami, you know, from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P
    This one is actually still up in the air until we get more information that just its name and design.
    Wait, I think you didn't get it. Princess Mononoke is a 1997 animated film and there's nothing "ancient" about this story or the Shishigami. The troll was caught because of this (among other reasons, but this is the funniest one).

    To put in perspective; imagine someone comes and says Xerneas is based after a mythical creature of ancient Western folklore, named Bambi.
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    On the other hand, Yatagarasu, the three-legged crow, is a genuine creature of Japanese folklore, so it's not impossible Yveltal is based on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerony View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    And one of my favorites: Claiming that the legendaries are based on Japanese folklore, and that Xerneas is based on Shishigami, you know, from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P
    This one is actually still up in the air until we get more information that just its name and design.
    Wait, I think you didn't get it. Princess Mononoke is a 1997 animated film and there's nothing "ancient" about this story or the Shishigami. The troll was caught because of this (among other reasons, but this is the funniest one).

    To put in perspective; imagine someone comes and says Xerneas is based after a mythical creature of ancient Western folklore, named Bambi.
    __________________________________________________________

    On the other hand, Yatagarasu, the three-legged crow, is a genuine creature of Japanese folklore, so it's not impossible Yveltal is based on it.

    Well, Snorlax was based on Totoro, so I don't see why Xerneas can't be based on the deer-god from Mononoke, even if Mononoke (a great film) didn't do that well in Japan, it was well-liked internationally, so I'd prefer that it would be a shout out, instead of a full-blown ''being based on the character'' thing.

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    They still probably wouldn't have an internal memo saying it was based on Mononoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serperior View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    And one of my favorites: Claiming that the legendaries are based on Japanese folklore, and that Xerneas is based on Shishigami, you know, from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P
    This one is actually still up in the air until we get more information that just its name and design.
    Wait, I think you didn't get it. Princess Mononoke is a 1997 animated film and there's nothing "ancient" about this story or the Shishigami. The troll was caught because of this (among other reasons, but this is the funniest one).

    To put in perspective; imagine someone comes and says Xerneas is based after a mythical creature of ancient Western folklore, named Bambi.
    __________________________________________________________

    On the other hand, Yatagarasu, the three-legged crow, is a genuine creature of Japanese folklore, so it's not impossible Yveltal is based on it.

    Well, Snorlax was based on Totoro, so I don't see why Xerneas can't be based on the deer-god from Mononoke, even if Mononoke (a great film) didn't do that well in Japan, it was well-liked internationally, so I'd prefer that it would be a shout out, instead of a full-blown ''being based on the character'' thing.

    The problem isn't about if Xerneas is based after Shishigami; actually it could. The problem is that the fake guy pointed Shishigami as part of Japanese folklore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    And one of my favorites: Claiming that the legendaries are based on Japanese folklore, and that Xerneas is based on Shishigami, you know, from that famous ancient Japanese myth, Princess Mononoke.:P
    This one is actually still up in the air until we get more information that just its name and design.
    Wait, I think you didn't get it. Princess Mononoke is a 1997 animated film and there's nothing "ancient" about this story or the Shishigami. The troll was caught because of this (among other reasons, but this is the funniest one).

    To put in perspective; imagine someone comes and says Xerneas is based after a mythical creature of ancient Western folklore, named Bambi.
    __________________________________________________________

    On the other hand, Yatagarasu, the three-legged crow, is a genuine creature of Japanese folklore, so it's not impossible Yveltal is based on it.

    Well, Snorlax was based on Totoro, so I don't see why Xerneas can't be based on the deer-god from Mononoke, even if Mononoke (a great film) didn't do that well in Japan, it was well-liked internationally, so I'd prefer that it would be a shout out, instead of a full-blown ''being based on the character'' thing.

    The problem isn't about if Xerneas is based after Shishigami; actually it could. The problem is that the fake guy pointed Shishigami as part of Japanese folklore.
    WHOOPS, that is indeed a fail, I realize they have Kami for, like, everything, but I don't think there are any major japanese legend about deer.

    Also, unrelated, THIS:
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    So I just noticed apparently in the anime all of Virgil's pokemon were male except for the Eevee. Sure it could just be alluding to the gender ratio, but I could also see that as being a bit of a hint Sylpheon could be a gender exclusive evolution. Seems like something the anime writers could have thrown in there that'd fly under everyone's noses until Virgil inevitably shows back up again with an evolved Eevee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLiver View Post
    Seems like something the anime writers could have thrown in there that'd fly under everyone's noses until Virgil inevitably shows back up again with an evolved Eevee.
    There was no foreshadowing that Virgil would return in the future, though. It isn't necessary for Sylveon to be promoted in the anime around the short's run. While it could very well happen, I wouldn't say it is the inevitable outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLiver View Post
    So I just noticed apparently in the anime all of Virgil's pokemon were male except for the Eevee. Sure it could just be alluding to the gender ratio, but I could also see that as being a bit of a hint Sylpheon could be a gender exclusive evolution. Seems like something the anime writers could have thrown in there that'd fly under everyone's noses until Virgil inevitably shows back up again with an evolved Eevee.
    Another Combee treatment? No. This would frustrating some players. If Sylveon is female-only, getting her via levelling up could be 100% risky as Eevee's gender ratio is 87.5% males to 12.5% females. I don't want to see another Combee treatment again. If Sylveon's gender ratio is same as Eevee (seven-to-one ratio), imagine bishonen design like Raiden (Jack) from Metal Gear series. I do prefer latter one (seven-to-one) instead.

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    But yeah, a very valid point. I've been wondering how can Evee get to evolve into Sylveon... A Flying stone? Beauty again?(HEll no) Maybe the feathers? Geez introducing new pokemon evolving from old is always so underhanded.

    Also I think an area where Eevee evolves into it can be safely assumed.

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    Did you guys here about the rumor that's going around saying that Pokémon X and Y will introduce over 130 New Pokémon as well as surprising new features like being able to talk to your Pokémon on the 3DS mic and apparently there's another new feature called Pokémon Connect. I know there's almost a huge huge chance that this is fake especially since even numbered Generation's always have less Pokémon than odd numbered ones but nonetheless it's still kind of entertaining from what we currently have info on which is mainly nothing but it's understandable as the games do come out in October. I'm just getting very impatient waiting for more news luckily February is over in 5 days and then CoroCoro usually leaks on the 11th so 17 days to go I'd say at the least. I really really want Xerneas' and Yveltal's Types to be revealed and Sylveon's too (that little booger is still messing with my head on what Type it is).

    Here's the link to the site that has this rumor...RUMOR: 130 New Pokémon in X and Y, Talk to Your Pokémon With “3DS Technology” | GenGAME
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    Curious... I don't think its real though, intuition says so. XD

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