Region Speculation and Discussion Thread

[Mitch Chesman]

Basically its a rebuttal to the French version of those places means its France. And to be honest the examples there do seem more likely then the French Counterparts. Only thing is, if it wasn't France, I still don't get the need to have Pikachu on the Eiffel Tower of all things. NYC vs Shanghai all over again, though hopefully it won't go that far.

[Rocky505]

God I'd hate another Region War. But just in case, people need to Prepare for Region War 2.

[Mitch Chesman]

So would I, which is why I said hopefully. Its a fair case the image makes though, and upon further inspection, the places do make more sense.

[Finicky Fennekin]

Basically its a rebuttal to the French version of those places means its France. And to be honest the examples there do seem more likely then the French Counterparts. Only thing is, if it wasn't France, I still don't get the need to have Pikachu on the Eiffel Tower of all things. NYC vs Shanghai all over again, though hopefully it won't go that far.

If I remember correctly, didn't we get an official confirmation that Unova was indeed based off of the US?

I can't really remember whether or not that happened, and I still do run into the occasional person who continues to insist Unova is Shanghai, but at the very least we have a chance that an official statement of one sort or another will confirm which country the new region is actually based on.

If it even is just one country! Sure, those examples seem really convincing as far as an argument for England goes, but the Eiffel Tower in the promotional videos seems too deliberate to not have a purpose. Perhaps the new region is based off of more than one European country? If that's the case, we could end up with a positively gigantic region to explore this generation! (●♡∀♡)

[Rocky505]

Yes Junichi Masuda confirmed that it was based on NY in an interview I believe.

[Mitch Chesman]

I doubt we're going to get much in terms of region size being a real world country or countries equivalent. I'm assuming at best we'll be getting Ile-de-France-Picardy,Centre,Burgundy, and Champagne as the basis, with the worst case being Picardy and Champagne only. All regions have been cities and their surrounding areas, and to an extent even Sinnoh and Hoenn do that as they both have 1 major city and thats basically it.
I mean take real world sizes for an example:
Kanto-Chubu= 32,423.90+72,572.34=Roughly 105.000 square km
Kyushu= 35,640 square km
Hokkaido= 83,453.57 square km
NYC(1,213)+Hudson/Bergen County(799.875)=2012.875 square km

And you now have an idea of what the region is going to be when it comes to France. NYC was the worst possible place to base a region on, as its the smallest. It mucked thing up big time, and considering how big it is in-game, we might never get the scale of it next to the other regions. It might be big, say for the Pokenippon, but super tiny for PokeUS, or vice versa. Paris would remedy some of it sort of, as its fairly big, and the geography is kind of unique. With some imagination it could be done, however my biggest fear is of Ile De France's Poke-filter will turn it into a sideway's Unova. The literal translation is Isle of France, so who knows. It does have more then 2 rivers, so the region could be fairly interesting, perhaps giving us a very thoughtful region, with one massive Island in the middle, and lots of rivers about it, with large landlocked chunks that go off map.

[Tendou Soujirou]

GameFreak pretty much said "fuck it!" with Unova being based off New York. Apart from the general shape, and Castelia City, I always thought it wasn't as well put together to line-up with its real-world inspiration like the Japanese Regions were. In the latter case, you can line up real-life areas pretty well...not so with Unova. Of course, it doesn't surprise me that the Japanese Team would put more detail into their home country than they would a foreign state.

[Mitch Chesman]

Basically, yeah. And its not really the attention to detail being off, as I think being biased cause your region isn't your homeland is basically the best possible way to screw yourself over and as such I hope is not the case considering Unova in the long run, as is the attention to what such a move does to the general universe of the game. Detail is fine with Unova, its a melting pot of the US based on NYC the melting pot city of the US, and detail will likely be fine with Poke-France. I do believe France will gel better, as the numbers I posted put it in the ball park of Kyushu/Kanto/Chubu, balancing the real world sizes once more, and thus making the region hopefully better then Unova. It wasn't lackluster, hell B2W2 left you wanting for more while giving you the best vibe a region can have and I have it as my favorite region, but it started off on the wrong foot, and couldn't find it its footing in the end.

[Infinity Edge]

I've got a speculation idea, that this new region might be close to Kanto, in the Pokemon world spectrum. I think so, because of the pokemon that are associated with it, like the Pikachu we have seen in wilds or the Pinsir and Heracross speculated babies. We know that those pokemon come from Kanto and Johto regions, which are also close to eachother. So I think that it might be a region close to these.

[Tendou Soujirou]

I don't get your reasoning...especially including two Pokemon that were mere hoaxes and there actual existing evolved forms haven't been seen in the game.

[Infinity Edge]

I don't get your reasoning...especially including two Pokemon that were mere hoaxes and there actual existing evolved forms haven't been seen in the game.

It does exist as a possiblity. If you're so opposed, can you tell how it can't be a possibility?

[Tendou Soujirou]

Well, there's no particularly large influx of Kanto Pokemon seen besides standouts like Pikachu, who's the mascot and apart from Unova appears all the time, and Mewtwo, who seems to be more linked to the DNA themed hinted at by the logo. Plus, being France/Europe, it probably won't be close to a Japanese Region.

And the main flaw with your statement is the inclusion of Heracross and Pinsir pre-evolutions which don't even exist.

[Infinity Edge]

And the main flaw with your statement is the inclusion of Heracross and Pinsir pre-evolutions which don't even exist.

If I would want to obstain by that, I would mention it. The question I asked you didn't really have to do with those.

being France/Europe, it probably won't be close to a Japanese Region.

While I agree that Kanto is a japan based region, how can you justify your idea that Regions in the pokemon world have the same relation as countries in our world?

[Tendou Soujirou]

If I would want to obstain by that, I would mention it. The question I asked you didn't really have to do with those.

Because you brought them up in the first place. 0.o

While I agree that Kanto is a japan based region, how can you justify your idea that Regions in the pokemon world have the same relation as regions in our world?

Unova is depicted as being quite a distance from the Japanese-based Regions, which fits the idea that they're more or less in the same position as the corresponding Regions.

I really don't see any connection to Kanto going on. If anything, the initial trailer struck me more of Unova, since there were more Pokemon from that Region including their regional rodent and "secondary Starter" members of the Monkey Trio.

[Akira Bond]

Does anyone have any creative thoughts of what this generation's region name should be called, or have any names you would like to see the region be named??

I believe that this region may be far away from the other regions. My reasoning is that the first four regions, particularly Kanto and Johto, are closer together. The third and fourth regions should be close enough to the first two as well. These four regions are all based on Japanese regions.

Unova is based on New York, and is the furthest region than any other region. I believe this trend will continue, with this new region being based on either Europe or France alone, also being far away from the four Japanese inspired regions.

Also, I feel that this will become a new Pokemon trend, creating regions based on different parts of the world. Starting with Unova, Game Freak may have felt it was time to spread the regions out more, and give them new cultural and geographical qualities to each new region, to bring more dispersity and uniqueness to each region.