The "Real or Not Real" Thread

[Joshawott]

Yeah, if the source if 4chan, you can dismiss it as fake right away.

[Mitch Chesman]

I just realized the list has like 6 unique fire combos. That should indeed be enough.

[Tendou Soujirou]

It's because they're all close together, but I remember seeing a list of new type combos in previous Gens, and iirc Gen V had just as many new type combinations as this one claims to have. In fact the amount is pretty average for each Generation.

Gen II= 13 (and I left off Dark and Steel, to be fair since they were new types)
Water/Electric
Psychic/Flying
Rock
Ghost
Grass/Flying
Water/Ground
Normal/Psychic
Ground/Flying
Bug/Rock
Bug/Fighting
Fire/Rock
Ice/Ground
Water/Dragon

Gen III= 20
Fire/Fighting
Water/Grass
Grass/Dark
Bug/Water
Bug/Ground
Grass/Fighting
Ice
Bug/Ghost
Dark/Ghost
Steel/Rock
Fighting/Psychic
Water/Dark
Fire/Ground
Ground/Dragon
Rock/Psychic
Ground/Psychic
Rock/Grass
Steel/Psychic
Dragon/Psychic
Steel/Psychic



Gen IV= 13 (more if you count the Rotom Forms where Fire/Electric, Grass/Electric, and Ice/Electric became New in Gen V)
Grass/Ground
Water/Steel
Normal/Water
Ghost/Flying
Poison/Dark
Fighting/Steel
Poison/Fighting
Grass/Ice
Ice/Ghost
Electric/Ghost
Steel/Dragon
Fire/Steel
Ghost/Dragon



Gen V = 18
Psychic/Fire
Dark/Fighting
Normal/Grass
Water/Ghost
Bug/Electric
Grass/Steel
Ghost/Fire
Ground/Electric
Ground/Ghost
Dark/Steel
Dark/Dragon
Bug/Fire
Rock/Fighting
Dragon/Fire
Dragon/Electric
Dragon/Ice
Normal/Fighting
Flying


Gen VI = 17
Poison/Rock
Flying/Fighting
Bug/Dark
Ghost/Steel
Rock/Ice
Poison/Steel
Bug/Ice
Ice'Steel
Water/Fire
Grass/Dragon
Bug/Dragon
Ground/Fighting
Grass/Fire
Fire/Ice
Dragon/Fighting
Ghost/Psychic
Dark/Electric

[Robo-Floatzel]

Looking at the list, 90% of these are too ridiculous to be believed, just by looking at their names alone. Then again, this was originally posted on 4chan, in which there is a 95% chance of it being a fake, with the remaining 5% being of what they guess that turns out to be real, but is purely by coincidence.

I can see Fennekin being a Fire/Psychic, but Chespin as a Grass/Flying, given what animal it's supposedly based on, is just odd, because I actually see Chespin being Grass/Ground or Grass/Fighting more likely.

[Shiny Celebi]

Im gonna say Mr XY's rumors are fake because
1. It's on 4chan
2. Its too unbelievable for me with all those type combos and names.

[Eneci]

I don't know what to think about the rumors by mrXY. i mean I could go and say all that stuff, you just need good imagination.

Although I must say I liked some of his new poke predicments. Like the card symbol quartet. And some other pseudo legendaries.

But chespin being part flying I don't know that is a huge change but I couldn't see Tepig going fighting so nothing should be a surprise. And look at his name Che-SPIN. he could develop some propellers or stuff.

[SteamKnight]

I had posted this comment originally on Vdex, but I thought it was relevant for here. For context purposes, benjpalmer noticed how there's a "Toilelite" listed, and wrote that it could contain the words "Toilet Elite." My username on Vdex is Tanoshi.

It got silly for me when I saw "Melboing" and "Sydknee." I don't think Game Freak's ever named a Pokemon after a city or town before, so why would they start now?

And the Toilelite thingie wouldn't go over well with the general public. What's it supposed to look like, a porcelain throne with teeth and toilet paper hanging off its lid?

I can't imagine how it'd get around, either, unless it were like the Treasure Chest mimic from Dungeons and Dragons...

[Zeb]

The names don't strike me as reason to believe this is fake. In fact, I think the names are very similar to the past naming style - there's a mix of good names and not-so-good names just like every generation we've had so far.

The reason I personally think it's fake is because a leak this big is just not happening 8 months before the games release. If this was two-three weeks before the game's release, similar to how Pokexperto leaked all the Pokemon before BW's release, then I would be less skeptical and actually think there was some small chance that maybe it's legitimate. But this is just way too extreme way too early. I'm all for it being legitimate, however; for once I actually like the majority of ideas the faker has created.

[Synthesis]

No way is that real.

Snowmanitan Ice/Fire I take is supposed to be a Darmanitan evolution.

Houndoomed. Garbarge. Not a chance...

[Beck]

I also won't stand for a Heracross prevo. Game Freak is going to have to nail its design if it's to ever happen, otherwise no thanks.

That being said, Zeb has said it best. It's not the names, but the shear mass amount of information and the specifics so early that make it unbelievable. If it's correct information then so be it, good for Mr. XY, but I'm not about to buy into it.

[Velvet]

eople might be up in arms lately after the "Mr. XY" Leak, but I bring information that will appear in the latest CoroCoro. It is quite a big issue this time.
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*Movie News.

The Movie News focuses mainly on Mewtwo, with a sidebar detailing its various appearances, including the original film, Mewtwo Returns, its role in Red and Blue, Pokemon Stadium, and even Smash Brothers Melee. Mewtwo is said to have amnesia within the film, and doesn't remember who Ash is, and considers him an enemy alongside the rest of humanity. Mewtwo engages in a fight with the Red Genesect in order to "free it" from its prison, as it senses its pain from being transformed into a weapon. Mewtwo is said to have obtained a new power, but it is not stated what.

The city within the film is called Neodoll City, and is a high-tech utopia where brilliant minds are said to gather. Ash and Co. travel there in order to attend a conference that Professor Oak invited them to focusing on the bonds between human and Pokemon.

*Sylveon gets a section focused on it, revealing Species and Type.

Sylveon is the Kashinfuu Pokemon, "Spring Wind". It is a pure-Flying Eevee Evolution, and is also 100% Female. Evolution method isn't stated exactly, but it evolves through its "bonds" with another Pokemon reaching a fever pitch. It further teases this by promising information on a new evolution mechanic in the future.

The Mini-Movie takes place within a park and a group of Eeveelution Sisters. Pikachu and friends help a young Eevee woo the Sylveon sister, while Oshawott and Meowth engage in a "love battle" in order to win over her as well. The Mini-Movie is said to take place directly before the main film in a city park, and Sylveon and the Eeveelutions will apparently cameo within the main film to aid in the big battle.

*The magazine expands on the Starters and Legendaries, with Species and Types:

Chespin is the Igaguri Pokemon, "Chestnut".
Fennekin is the Kitsunemimi Pokemon, "Fox Ears".
Froakie is the Kaeru Pokemon, "Frog".
Xerneas is the CHI (written out in romanji) Pokemon. Psychic/Ground.
Yveltal is the PSI (written out in romanji) Pokemon. Fighting/Flying.

Magazine has little speculative blurbs about them. Mentions how Chespin seems to be wearing a "hat", and wonders if it can be removed. Fennekin's blurb points out the fluff within its ears and questions if it's able to hear with all that fluff. Froakie's questions about the function of the clouds on its back, and wonders if it stores anything in it. Xerneas' points out the rainbow glow coming from its horns and asks what kind of power they contain, and Yveltal's mentions how its tail has a third hand on the end.

Next issue will apparently reveal the secret of Xerneas and Yveltal, and the meaning of CHI and PSI.

*There are three New Pokemon revealed advertising New Evolutions and Pre-Evolutions of older Pokemon alongside Sylveon, alongside their Sugimori Art and an in-game screen-shot:

Arutarosu [アルタロス], which is said to be the pre-evolution of Tauros. Normal. Species is Kengyuu Pokemon, "cow-puller", apparently from "kengyuusei", the "Puller of Cow Star". 19.7 kg. 0.9 m. Is a little brown bull, with only one tail, and ears instead of horns. Has a "cowbell" charm on its neck, a circular piece of metal with bull horns coming out the sides. The magazine indicates that it uses the cowbell to lead other Pokemon, and the in-game screen-shot shows musical notes coming from the bell in a battle.

Koorain [コーライン], which is said to be the evolution of Torkoal. Fire. Species is Sekitan Pokemon, "Coal", same as Torkoal. Very large Torkoal, with black "train tracks" lines running down its neck down its stomach, and around its legs. Has two "smoke stack" horns on the top of its head. Shell is larger, with two openings on both sides which are opened up like shafts, red fire seen inside. 291.8 kg. 2.8 m. Its in-game picture shows a red flame emitting from it in a fight against a Torkoal, Torkoal in the foreground, Koorain in the back, with the magazine pointing out the size difference between the two.

Yamemasu [ヤメマス], which is an alternate-evolution to Wynaut and a counterpart to Wobbuffet. Psychic. Species is the Kibaya Pokemon, "quick-tempered". Looks a lot like Wobbuffet, with a red zig-zag around its neck as its head is red, and it's got meaner looking (><) eyes as they're narrowing downward. Even the eyes on its tail look mad. Its arms are layered like a paper fan, and its swatting them. It's slightly skinnier, with its legs a bit raised and less flabby. 28.5 kg. 1.3 m. Its in-game picture has it swatting its arms at a Wobbuffet in battle in some kind of attack, and the magazine points out how it's able to attack on its own unlike Wobbuffet.

*Anime News about next saga.

Feature on Sableye, who will be appearing in an upcoming episode. Sableye is apparently a "genius" intellect Pokemon who has been stealing books from the Nacrene Museum in order to read them, causing the Museum to shut down. While attempting to capture it, Sableye nabs Ash's PokeDex...

There will be an upcoming arc focused on the Nature Sanctuary, in which Virgil returns in order to protect a Shiny Haxorus from Team Rocket. A "heroic" Nuzleaf also plays a role, apparently teaming up with Cilan who has become a "Kamen Sommelier!".

That is all.

I found this particular rumor on Pokejungle, the person's name was denku.

[Tendou Soujirou]

I saw that on /vp/ first, I think the dude on PJ just copied and pasted it.

The first thing I noticed was "Red and Blue", but the dude on /vp/ stated he was simply using English names for ease, and the picture was of the Japanese Blue Mewtwo sprite, which seems like a decent excuse. He did use Melee after all.

Second thing, the Mini Movie on Dogasu's site is described as:

Lots of cute pokemon, starting with Pikachu, have come to the "Eevee House" to play with Eevee and all of its evolved forms. But a commotion is caused when Nyasu and Sonansu start to stir up trouble!?

This short will feature the debut of Eevee's newest evolution, Ninfia.

But it could be possible that the Eevee House is within the Pokemon Hills, the large park Kunihiko Yuyama mentioned would be in the New York (Neodoll?) inspired area, as the background on the new poster does look like a park area. So it's not exactly a contradiction.

The biggest problem is that seems a LOT for CoroCoro, the New Pokemon pushing it over the edge. That being said, they're clever ideas...Tauros is connected to the constellation, and its pre-evolution is a reference to the Altair Star in the Tanabata myth, Torkoal becomes a coal-powered train, and Wobbuffet's counterpart's name means "I'll quit!", and it's based off a tsukkomi, who often end a manzai routine with "Yamesashite moraimasu wa!", "let's quit!".

[Velvet]

@Quattro ~ Bajeena; I'm going to be stupid asking this but what is /vp/? Wouldn't be surprised. As for your thoughts; hmmm....I'm not so sure while it is very unlikely and nearly strange to receive this much information (especially this year); and I hold my doubts about it to be honest, never the less they are interesting ideas that much I'm willing to agree with. Well know for sure come next monday or whenever the scan leaks.

[Mitch Chesman]

That ones at least a believable fake, using some name puns that make sense, a movie locale which would go along with the given info already, and we're pretty close to CoroCoro. And hell, flying Sylveon is at least better then normal. It bases the starters though far too closely to what the fandom thinks about the design aspects of the Pokemon...

[Ange]

Yeah, the rumours we've gotten lately have all kind of been taken directly from popular fan speculations and satisfying fan wishes (like giving certain Pokemon evolutions and other pre-evolutions). It's not like I'm against these ideas (I personally really want to see a Farfetch'd evolution someday, for example) but for rumours to be a little more believable I think they'd have to throw some things around a bit.

Though maybe that's already too late, considering how they have presumably leaked pretty much the entire dex already, haha.