Thread: Pokémon Remake Discussion (Read First Post!)

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Due to Genesect's early reveal and distribution (August in Japan, October internationally) despite it being in the next movie, it's clear that Generation V has ended with Black 2/White 2. The next generation will most likely began in Japan next year with the release of a new primary pair on the Nintendo 3DS.

GameFreak have already moved forward to the 3DS with Rhythm Hunter HarmoKnight and I doubt Satoru Iwata would even let them release a DS game in 2013 (I imagine B2W2's June release was to allow for a 2012 international launch). People really need to stop being in denial about this; the next Pokémon games (and thus, any subsequent remakes) will be for the 3DS, not the now outdated DS.

There's also the fact that RS' 10th anniversary was ignored in favor of BW2, unlike when HGSS' came out on GS' 10th anniversary and this played a part in their advertisement.

Unfortunately some people just refuse to acknowledge that RSE remakes probably won't happen this generation. In some of the arguments over the subject I've been in, their devotion to the concept was nearly religious...

Originally Posted by Zistal

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Due to Genesect's early reveal and distribution (August in Japan, October internationally) despite it being in the next movie, it's clear that Generation V has ended with Black 2/White 2. The next generation will most likely began in Japan next year with the release of a new primary pair on the Nintendo 3DS.

GameFreak have already moved forward to the 3DS with Rhythm Hunter HarmoKnight and I doubt Satoru Iwata would even let them release a DS game in 2013 (I imagine B2W2's June release was to allow for a 2012 international launch). People really need to stop being in denial about this; the next Pokémon games (and thus, any subsequent remakes) will be for the 3DS, not the now outdated DS.

There's also the fact that RS' 10th anniversary was ignored in favor of BW2, unlike when HGSS' came out on GS' 10th anniversary and this played a part in their advertisement.

Unfortunately some people just refuse to acknowledge that RSE remakes probably won't happen this generation. In some of the arguments over the subject I've been in, their devotion to the concept was nearly religious...

FRLG weren't released on RG's 10th anniversary either. If anything, I think HGSS' being in the year of GS' 10th was coincidence. The adverts I saw focused on the nostalgia of the originals, not the anniversary.

Originally Posted by $onyhater21

There's R/S/E Trainer Battle music in BW2 maybe we are getting Gen III remakes.

There's also HGSS and DPt music in B2W2. So by that logic, we should get HGSS and DPt remakes.

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Originally Posted by $onyhater21

There's R/S/E Trainer Battle music in BW2 maybe we are getting Gen III remakes.

There's also HGSS and DPt music in B2W2. So by that logic, we should get HGSS and DPt remakes.

The gym leader/E4/Champion themes from all the previous games are in the World Tournament, but only Hoenn has the regular trainer theme in the data as well.

Originally Posted by Golbat-Man

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Originally Posted by $onyhater21

There's R/S/E Trainer Battle music in BW2 maybe we are getting Gen III remakes.

There's also HGSS and DPt music in B2W2. So by that logic, we should get HGSS and DPt remakes.

The gym leader/E4/Champion themes from all the previous games are in the World Tournament, but only Hoenn has the regular trainer theme in the data as well.

So? One track hidden in data (I have yet to hear it in game) does not make a remake hint. Remakes might happen at some point, but not in Gen V.

Originally Posted by Golbat-Man

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Originally Posted by $onyhater21

There's R/S/E Trainer Battle music in BW2 maybe we are getting Gen III remakes.

There's also HGSS and DPt music in B2W2. So by that logic, we should get HGSS and DPt remakes.

The gym leader/E4/Champion themes from all the previous games are in the World Tournament, but only Hoenn has the regular trainer theme in the data as well.

So? Platinum had the RSE main theme as a hidden track, and HGSS had the Route 101 theme yet we never had Hoenn remakes during Gen IV. Just like the RSE theme in Platinum, the Hoenn trainer music in BW2 probably is there for testing purposes (i.e. for adjusting previous games music to BW2's soundfont), that's why unlike the other odler themes, this one is not used in-game, just like Joshawott pointed out.

Even then, I don't get what does that has to do with a remake to begin with. We've seen previously that some random dummied/hidden data does not mean "undisputable proof", remember when we found "Johto" as a possible location for catching Pokémon in DPPt hidden in the game data, yet when HGSS were released, such data was not used; instead, Pokémon from the latter games would only display "Faraway Land" when traded to the former, despite that "Johto" was already available. Thus, in a similar way, even in Hoenn remakes come out during Gen V, most probably they won't use this track you are refering to, so calling it undisputable proof is moot.

Originally Posted by Joshawott

FRLG weren't released on RG's 10th anniversary either. If anything, I think HGSS' being in the year of GS' 10th was coincidence. The adverts I saw focused on the nostalgia of the originals, not the anniversary.

Coincidence or not, Gamefreak just had the opportunity to do it again but passed it up. I could have sworn the 10th anniversary point got used at least once during HGSS' advertisement, though admittedly my memories of that era are fuzzy.

Originally Posted by Zistal

I could have sworn the 10th anniversary point got used at least once during HGSS' advertisement, though admittedly my memories of that era are fuzzy.

It was used several times, most notably in the initial announcement. That's an excerpt from the Japanese Yahoo website, but the official website referenced the anniversary, as well.

Originally Posted by Silktree

It was used several times, most notably in the initial announcement. That's an excerpt from the Japanese Yahoo website, but the official website referenced the anniversary, as well.

The last sentence there, "... so its revival is only fitting" makes it seem like it was more of a lucky coincidence that the release happened to be on the originals' anniversary, than the games actually being done for the special purpose of celebrating the anniversary.

Originally Posted by VeggiePopper

The last sentence there, "... so its revival is only fitting" makes it seem like it was more of a lucky coincidence that the release happened to be on the originals' anniversary, than the games actually being done for the special purpose of celebrating the anniversary.

If it were pure coincidence it wouldn't be mentioned at all. Zistal's point is that if Game Freak wanted to release remakes in this generation, they would probably choose to do so around the anniversary, which isn't the case.

If they are going to be remade, I hope they keep Emerald's battle Frontier locations and challenges but update things a bit and add some new stuff. We had the PWT give Hoenn's Gym Leaders a breath of fresh air, the Frontier Brains need that treatment too. I personally want to beat Lucy down in Gen V style after that crushing loss in Emerald.

Originally Posted by Silktree

Originally Posted by VeggiePopper

The last sentence there, "... so its revival is only fitting" makes it seem like it was more of a lucky coincidence that the release happened to be on the originals' anniversary, than the games actually being done for the special purpose of celebrating the anniversary.

If it were pure coincidence it wouldn't be mentioned at all. Zistal's point is that if Game Freak wanted to release remakes in this generation, they would probably choose to do so around the anniversary, which isn't the case.

That's why I said lucky coincidence. Being a coincidence doesn't have to mean that they can't notice it. The coincidence lies in that they remade the games and then the planned release date coincided with their anniversary, not the other way round (the games being remade for the sake of the anniversary); the anniversary was an extra thing, but not the main thing; they were aware of it and exploited it for marketing purposes, but it was not the reason to be, that's why it's still a coincidence (unless of course, it's been proved that the anniversary was the main reason for the games being remade). But I digress.

Come on, make the underwater routes more interesting. Let us find items down there, and maybe trainers who are also diving. Also, let us find more Pokémon different from Clamperl and Relicanth.

Hmm, this is an interesting topic I haven't seen before o.o

Well, the best remakes that could ever be made imo are RSE remakes, with the following features:
Pokemon

• Animated sprites
• Expanded array of Pokemon including those from generations IV and V, preferably only encountered after the Elite Four are defeated.

Criminal Organizations

• Seeing as how my favorite game ever was Emerald Version, I have to say that I would really love to see dual evil teams again. This is why I've been rooting for an Emerald remake and not RS remakes :/
• Considering that the current generation of Pokemon fans includes people of all ages, I would love to see the evil teams act and talk a bit more seriously and overall violently. That would be so epic!

Music

• In the music department, I would really wish for the same Generation 3 music with a small upgrade, possibly a bit more technical? Idk, but not the exact same, preferably an edited version. Different sound tracks will ruin the experience for me.

Graphics

• OMG! Like, I can imagine it now, Sootopolis City with Generation V graphics! O.o
  And Fortree City too! GAAAAAH!

Extra Stuff

• For the love of God preserve dive and make it epic this time! The dive in BW was dumb and very limited. Make it a whole lot more interesting. Plus the graphical abilities they have can make diving such a great experience!

That is all :]

I'd love Hoenn remakes but only if they are on the 3DS. No more DS games

I'd rather it be DS than 3DS because no matter what anyone says the 3DS sucks and I'm only getting one as an emergency precaution.

Anyway, back on topic, I wouldn't mind it to be an RS remake if they include most of the Emerald Features. Then, if we incorporate the normal 5-handhelds-a-gen rule, an Emake is more likely.
Now, what would I want to see...
Well, Ribbons being re-obtainable, for a start. Especially the Hoenn Contest Ribbons. Only Pal Park'd pokemon can get those and PokeBlocks were so hard to do properly. Perhaps the Contest Hall could be updated so you can do normal AND super contests, so Gen V pokemon have the chance to get those ribbons.
I'd also love to see some of the places like Littleroot and Mauville with new graphics. Hm, oh and maybe add a few extra locations, like maybe do what happened with the Battle Fronteir of Sinnoh; make all the other areas.
It'd also mean the return of BERRIES~
Seriously, I hate how we can only get Berries in the Dream World. I want my Pamtre Berries to improve beauty!
On that note, bring back contest stats. Granted a Prism scale is easier for Feebas but it feels sad that any effort getting my pokemon to be beautiful, cool, smart etc has been wasted even if they aced the master ranks.