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Even though I think R/S/E were my least favourite games in the series, I still really enjoyed them and would love to see a remake of them for this generation. I think it really frustrating that in order to complete the National Pokedex, you have to transfer your R/S/E Pokemon to D/P/Pl or HGSS, and then transfer them AGAIN to B/W. I know that B2/W2 have some of the Hoenn Pokemon running around but not nearly enough to complete a Pokedex, especially if you are trying to complete it on B/W (I'm trying to do it on White). Therefore I think being able to link up with new Hoenn based games, let's call them ShiningRuby and BrightSapphire, would be amazing.

Nintendo have been too keen to leap to the next generation in the past and I for one would love to see a R/S/E remake very soon. Especially since you could then match up some of the elements between Unova and Hoenn, like their Pokemon World Tournament and that Battle place in Emerald I can't remember the name of (which was a BRILLIANT place, by the way).

One thing, though. I would hope they adopt the Emerald storyline/additions rather than just remake the older, unimproved games of R/S. I liked R/S in that it was really the first game to show version differences besides what Pokemon you can catch, but I liked Emerald's "they're both bad, though one might be worst than the other" approach. Also, it'd be interesting if they brought in some more elements from the other games - well, probably it would only be B/W - with more characters crossing over to the region. Maybe even have a difficult final battle in the Hoenn region with Touko/Touya a la Red-style. I know a lot of people hated that but I found it exciting that you could fight Red at the end. It made the games feel genuinely connected that the character you once played still exists and is still Top Dog.

Besides, seeing as Touko/Touya apparently went to another region to look for N, why can't that region be Hoenn? Why can't they be standing on top of a huge mountain on the lookout for a flying legendary with someone on its back? Why can't the new generation Brendan and May go up to him/her and get engaged in a battle? I like that. OK, maybe not EXACTLY like the Red scenario but, you know, something along the lines. Maybe, they're just in this house in the middle of this rather difficult area that you have to go through hell to get to or something (Because R/S/E loved giving you hell with all those water routes.)

Originally Posted by scarlettpeony

Even though I think R/S/E were my least favourite games in the series, I still really enjoyed them and would love to see a remake of them for this generation. I think it really frustrating that in order to complete the National Pokedex, you have to transfer your R/S/E Pokemon to D/P/Pl or HGSS, and then transfer them AGAIN to B/W. I know that B2/W2 have some of the Hoenn Pokemon running around but not nearly enough to complete a Pokedex, especially if you are trying to complete it on B/W (I'm trying to do it on White). Therefore I think being able to link up with new Hoenn based games, let's call them ShiningRuby and BrightSapphire, would be amazing.

That's not true, you don't nees RSE to complete the National Dex. You get the Hoenn starters and legendaries in HGSS; DPPt's swarms as well as Pt's expanded Sinnoh Dex, and HGSS's post-game gave us all (or most) Hoenn Pokémon. I completed my National Dex in SoulSilver without touching my Ruby and Emerald versions, and only traded for starters and version exclusive legendaries. Thus, you only have to trasfer from a gen IV game to complete the Gen V Pokédex.

Originally Posted by scarlettpeony

One thing, though. I would hope they adopt the Emerald storyline/additions rather than just remake the older, unimproved games of R/S. I liked R/S in that it was really the first game to show version differences besides what Pokemon you can catch, but I liked Emerald's "they're both bad, though one might be worst than the other" approach. Also, it'd be interesting if they brought in some more elements from the other games - well, probably it would only be B/W - with more characters crossing over to the region. Maybe even have a difficult final battle in the Hoenn region with Touko/Touya a la Red-style. I know a lot of people hated that but I found it exciting that you could fight Red at the end. It made the games feel genuinely connected that the character you once played still exists and is still Top Dog.

Since BW happen around 10 years after RSE (confirmed by the Aqua and Magma grunts in BW2), I highly doubt you could encounter the BW trainers in such RSEmakes. Maybe a younger Alder or Drayden, but not Hilbert and Hilda, it would totally screw up the timeline.

Besides, seeing as Touko/Touya apparently went to another region to look for N, why can't that region be Hoenn? Why can't they be standing on top of a huge mountain on the lookout for a flying legendary with someone on its back? Why can't the new generation Brendan and May go up to him/her and get engaged in a battle? I like that. OK, maybe not EXACTLY like the Red scenario but, you know, something along the lines. Maybe, they're just in this house in the middle of this rather difficult area that you have to go through hell to get to or something (Because R/S/E loved giving you hell with all those water routes.)

Even if we omit what I already said on continuity and timeline issues, we already know in BW2 what happened to N, so we now know for sure that he DIDN'T go to Hoenn.

The inevitable RS remakes will happen. The question is, however, on what system?
Anyways, adding onto my previous post, these games should have Birth island and Navel rock, and an event for the Space/Time trio. There should be no more than 14 legendaries in the games.

I think it should be used on both 3DS and DS, like previous games. I like the idea of a remake and I think that all the legendaries should be found in the post game.

I think that there should only be RS remakes with Emerald examples. For example, using Wallace as the champion, and fighting Steven in the post game (this would anger many people, but I don't care), the SootoplisMossdeep Space Center event, and the Battle Frontier.

Originally Posted by 4fghan

The inevitable RS remakes will happen. The question is, however, on what system?
Anyways, adding onto my previous post, these games should have Birth island and Navel rock, and an event for the Space/Time trio. There should be no more than 14 legendaries in the games.

I still think it will definitely be on the 3DS only. They shouldn't keep on staying behind with their major games being on Nintendo's outdated system: the DS.

If anything, this could happen:
R/S remakes on the DS, and the Emerald remake on the 3DS. The only difference would be version exclusives & the system. Story wise, it would be exactly the same.

Why would they hold on to the DS? The DS is pretty much dead at this point and Game Freak needs to move to the 3DS as soon as possible. Nintendo is most likely pressuring them to put games out on the 3DS and Id say a 3DS Pokemon game is in development now, whether that's R/S remakes or Gen 6 or even both on some level. Also why would they make an Emerald remake when they can put features from Emerald into Ruby and Sapphire remakes just like what was done with features from Crystal in HG/SS? I think that's most likely what will happen.

I don't see any reason to do just a Hoenn remake. Gamefreak can simply add the Emerald elements into the two games. Fact is, more money will be made off of two games then off of one. I personally would prefer for Steven to be champion, but I wouldn't fret over it too much. I think that Juan should be the optional challenge battle though.

I kind of like the idea of one remake version having RS's last GL and champion setup and the other having Emerald's. BW already introduced the idea of having version-exclusive gym leaders, why not expand on that?

Originally Posted by YamiiDenryuu

I kind of like the idea of one remake version having RS's last GL and champion setup and the other having Emerald's. BW already introduced the idea of having version-exclusive gym leaders, why not expand on that?

I actually really like having that idea! It even supports the whole land vs. sea thing. Ruby could have Steven, who is primarily ground/steel/rock, while Wallace can be in Sapphire because he represents water (or vice versa).

There's R/S/E Trainer Battle music in BW2 maybe we are getting Gen III remakes.

Due to Genesect's early reveal and distribution (August in Japan, October internationally) despite it being in the next movie, it's clear that Generation V has ended with Black 2/White 2. The next generation will most likely began in Japan next year with the release of a new primary pair on the Nintendo 3DS.

GameFreak have already moved forward to the 3DS with Rhythm Hunter HarmoKnight and I doubt Satoru Iwata would even let them release a DS game in 2013 (I imagine B2W2's June release was to allow for a 2012 international launch). People really need to stop being in denial about this; the next Pokémon games (and thus, any subsequent remakes) will be for the 3DS, not the now outdated DS.

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Due to Genesect's early reveal and distribution (August in Japan, October internationally) despite it being in the next movie, it's clear that Generation V has ended with Black 2/White 2. The next generation will most likely began in Japan next year with the release of a new primary pair on the Nintendo 3DS.

GameFreak have already moved forward to the 3DS with Rhythm Hunter HarmoKnight and I doubt Satoru Iwata would even let them release a DS game in 2013 (I imagine B2W2's June release was to allow for a 2012 international launch). People really need to stop being in denial about this; the next Pokémon games (and thus, any subsequent remakes) will be for the 3DS, not the now outdated DS.

There's also the fact that RS' 10th anniversary was ignored in favor of BW2, unlike when HGSS' came out on GS' 10th anniversary and this played a part in their advertisement.

Unfortunately some people just refuse to acknowledge that RSE remakes probably won't happen this generation. In some of the arguments over the subject I've been in, their devotion to the concept was nearly religious...

Originally Posted by Zistal

Originally Posted by Joshawott

Due to Genesect's early reveal and distribution (August in Japan, October internationally) despite it being in the next movie, it's clear that Generation V has ended with Black 2/White 2. The next generation will most likely began in Japan next year with the release of a new primary pair on the Nintendo 3DS.

GameFreak have already moved forward to the 3DS with Rhythm Hunter HarmoKnight and I doubt Satoru Iwata would even let them release a DS game in 2013 (I imagine B2W2's June release was to allow for a 2012 international launch). People really need to stop being in denial about this; the next Pokémon games (and thus, any subsequent remakes) will be for the 3DS, not the now outdated DS.

There's also the fact that RS' 10th anniversary was ignored in favor of BW2, unlike when HGSS' came out on GS' 10th anniversary and this played a part in their advertisement.

Unfortunately some people just refuse to acknowledge that RSE remakes probably won't happen this generation. In some of the arguments over the subject I've been in, their devotion to the concept was nearly religious...

FRLG weren't released on RG's 10th anniversary either. If anything, I think HGSS' being in the year of GS' 10th was coincidence. The adverts I saw focused on the nostalgia of the originals, not the anniversary.

Originally Posted by $onyhater21

There's R/S/E Trainer Battle music in BW2 maybe we are getting Gen III remakes.

There's also HGSS and DPt music in B2W2. So by that logic, we should get HGSS and DPt remakes.