Thread: Moves/Abilities That You Think A Pokemon Should Have (XY Edition)

@Infinity Edge

I was gonna give you a very detailed rebuttal, but then I read your last post to @Infinity Mk-II and realized that you're just not worth it.

You're logic is flawed, but you refuse to see beyond it, so there's no point in continuing this. I will reassert my belief that Meganium should (and realistically could) learn Baton Pass since nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise (on the contrary, I am now even more convinced she should.) Bitch and moan all you like, but the fact that Musharna, Mawile, Spinda and Ariados can all learn the move already disproves your argument. That's all I'm gonna say on the subject.

-Ampharos: Tail Glow
-Flygon: Quiver Dance, Dragon Dance
-Krookodile: Dragon Dance
-Zebstrika: Jump Kick, Flare Blitz

I'm aware that Tail Glow is called Firefly Light in Japanese, but Manaphy still learns it, so I guess I'll continue to hold hope for Ampharos learning it. Flygon learning Dragon Dance is an obvious one, Quiver Dance because it looks bug-like. And Krookdile could get Dragon Dance because a few other non-Dragons (Feraligatr, Charizard, Whiscash, Crawdaunt, etc) learn it, so it makes sense to me. Sawsbuck and Stantler can learn Jump Kick, Rapidash gets Low Kick, why does Zebstrika not learn a Fighting-type move? Jump Kick would be cool. Also so would Flare Blitz, because if it can use Flame Charge, which involves charging in fire, then Flare Blitz seems logical too to me.

I have more, but I can't remember them right now so I'll probably post back later.

Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer

@Infinity Edge

I was gonna give you a very detailed rebuttal, but then I read your last post to @Infinity Mk-II and realized that you're just not worth it.

You're logic is flawed, but you refuse to see beyond it, so there's no point in continuing this. I will reassert my belief that Meganium should (and realistically could) learn Baton Pass since nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise (on the contrary, I am now even more convinced she should.) Bitch and moan all you like, but the fact that Musharna, Mawile, Spinda and Ariados can all learn the move already disproves your argument. That's all I'm gonna say on the subject.

Meaning you can't find reason to successfully argue with me anymore.

Bitch and moan all you like, but the fact that Mr.Mime, Eevee, Mew, Sentret, Ledyba, Togetic, Aipom, Girafarig, Celebi, Surskit, Ninjask, Plusle, Minun, Huntail, Gorebyss, Drifloon, Buneary, Patrat, Scolipede, Venonat, Scyther, Ariados, Gligar, Torchic, Skitty, Medite, Volbeat, Illumise, Spinda, Absol, Buizel, Sewaddle, Deerling, Emolga, Musharna, Accelgor, Mienfoo, Durant, Beedrill, Spearow, Rapidash, Farfetch'd, Dodrio, Hypno, Zapdos, Natu, Swellow, Lunatone and Solrock were able to use it up to now and Meganium still didn't disproves your argument.

oh dear arceus please give flareon flare blitz ... its the only thing i really want any pokemon to get this gen. but i also wouldn't mind togekiss getting quiver dance (for the obv reasons) i just dont know if he'll become too powerfull then...

Flareon to get Flare Blitz. That's the only real thing I want as of now.

I just don't see why it can't learn it. Maybe I'm missing something and there's some reason it can't learn it, but from what I see:

A Pokemon with an internal flame sac of some 3000 degrees Fahrenheit that can release heat into the air should be able to cloak itself in fire and attack. Especially since it can learn Flame Charge which does the exact same thing.

Samurott
Ability: Lightningrod
Moves: Agility, Close Combat/Cross Chop, Drill Run, Dual Chop, Bulk Up, Super Fang, Head Smash.

Lightningrod would be amazing, giving it only one weakness and a nifty Sp.Atk boost. But the shell isn't part of its body (unless it's fused onto its skull, which I don't think it has, but I have no idea really) so I consider it getting Lightningrod unlikely, but I still want it all the same.

For the moves though, I would just be happy if it got Agility, Close Combat and Drill Run. The others are just moves that I think would suit it.

I would also like them to retcon it into a Water/Fighting type but that's a topic for another thread entirely.

i like the idea offered of flygon getting quiver dance, it IS in the bug egg group so it could be an egg move although trapinch quiver dancing is silly! :D

not sure if its been mentioned, but a lot more bugs should learn fly, namely: Yanmega, Scyther, Scizor, and perhaps any bug/flying larger than a dang tailow that can learn fly.

Steelix should be able to learn Iron Defense. I'm amazed that it can't already.

I just want the Pokemon who have Pokedex entries that state they use an ability to actually learn that ability naturally. Not by tutor or TM or breeding. If it's worth noting that it does this naturally, why not have it naturally learn it? Seems...pointless.

Emboar is stated to create its fiery punches - Fire Punch? - with its beard.

Scrafty is stated to spit acidic liquid from its mouth - but only learns Poison moves through TMs.

Rhyhorn's powerful tackles are mentioned in a couple of entries...it doesn't learn Tackle at all.

There are others, of course and I know they already learn the moves through a means but I just want them added to their natural level-up pool, because as stated if it's worth noting in detail why isn't it worth being in their level-up pool? Seems redundent. Why not address something else?

every part bug part flying type should learn fly.

Butterfree should learn hurricane.

shelmit and squirtle should learn shell smash.

Originally Posted by PrettyVenomoth

every part bug part flying type should learn fly.

Not sure about every, but some of the bigger ones like Scyther, Yanmega and maybe Vespiqueen I could agree with.

I think that Mightyena should be able to learn Crunch.

Aerodactyle should get its stab recoil moves (brave bird/head smash) and sheer force. Flareon needs flare blitz (hey i said it again) I would like to see sheer force infernape. (look what it did to nidoking) and sceptile id love to see have calm mind.

That would be so OP in rain

It would be interesting if Spiritomb learned Shell Smash. Considering its structure, it could feasibly use that move. It could even be surprisingly useful with Shell Smash, as it would function similarly to Cofagrigus' Nasty Plot + Trick Room, but since you already have two moves for coverage (Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse and Hidden Power Fighting), there is room for another move. Some interesting possibilities include Dark Pulse for a possible Normal/Ghost-type, Sucker Punch to get the first strike in case there's something faster (that is not weak to Dark), Substitute for protection, or even Shadow Sneak for first strikes in case Dark Pulse was the coverage move of choice.

It's too bad Golurk didn't learn either Inferno or Zap Cannon, because it would become an extremely useful status spreader even though its Special Attack is low. It could also act as a makeshift type coverage for stuff like Ferrothorn or Flying-types.

Thanks for reading.

Mienshao and Power Whip. Make it happen, GameFreak.

Edit: Oh and Wailord and Perish song/Sing would be cool too.

*clears throat*

Sableye to get Wonder Guard & learn Sheer Cold. Because it would be awesome.