Thread: (Mod Note: Read First Post! Updated 6/1/13) Game Freak "expanding Pokémon world"

Originally Posted by Venator

They will work toward it?

Sounds like they just started development. I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment to think that that means a new generation for 2013.

I doubt it, iirc they started developing BW in 2007 and DP in 2004. In fact they supposedly got their inspiration from the DP debut in America after a trip there for Unova.

I personally think Gen 5 is the best generation, Pokemon, areas, events, evil team, morals in the game and a very interesting castelia of characters made these games so much fun for me. Not to mention the large amount of new Pokemon compared to DP's 107 Pokemon, which kinda sucked since a lot involved getting an older Pokemon from another game in D/P. Plus there were hardly any Water-types or Fire-types, it was okay but B/W was vastly better imo.

Originally Posted by Venator

Sounds like they just started development. I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment to think that that means a new generation for 2013.

Unless they really, really want an unpolished game that has had less than a year of development.

They've had access to 3DS development kits since early 2010, so it's safe to assume that Generation VI has already been in development for nearly three years. Mind you, Diamond and Pearl's development only lasted two years.

Originally Posted by Venator

Same goes for assuming that Generation VI will happen next year.

The critical difference is that they've never implied that they're working on remakes.

looks like new genarations are being introduced year by year! awesome!

Originally Posted by Silktree

They've had access to 3DS development kits since early 2010, so it's safe to assume that Generation VI has already been in development for nearly three years. Mind you, Diamond and Pearl's development only lasted two years.

Erm... no? You can't really assume anything when the only information you have is a really, really blank statement that says (paraphrasing) "we will towards the future of the Pokemon games". Just because they've had access to the 3DS tech since 2010, does not mean that they were already making Gen 6 games within months of BW's release.

Overeager assumptions just set you up for disappointment.

The critical difference is that they've never implied that they're working on remakes.

That matters? I don't think there was ever any information regarding the development of FR/LG or HG/SS before they were announced, and it's safe to assume that they will work on a new generation regardless. I mean, come on. There's not even a risk.

In addition, you're, once again, assuming that this statement means "OMG gen 6 this year!". I mean, come on. I love Pokemon as much as the next addict, but I'll never assume that they're going to release a new generation so early on. Even the blank statement doesn't say anything about releasing a game.

Originally Posted by Venator

Originally Posted by Silktree

They've had access to 3DS development kits since early 2010, so it's safe to assume that Generation VI has already been in development for nearly three years. Mind you, Diamond and Pearl's development only lasted two years.

Erm... no? You can't really assume anything when the only information you have is a really, really blank statement that says (paraphrasing) "we will towards the future of the Pokemon games". Just because they've had access to the 3DS tech since 2010, does not mean that they were already making Gen 6 games within months of BW's release.

Well considering Game Freak started to work on Gen V as soon as Gen IV was released, I don't see the harm in assuming they've been planning Gen VI for a while now.

Originally Posted by Venator

Just because they've had access to the 3DS tech since 2010, does not mean that they were already making Gen 6 games within months of BW's release.

Yes, it does. There has to be a reason why they were given those development kits, and obviously the Generation V games have nothing to do with the 3DS. Combine that with the fact that Black and White entered development way back in late 2006, it's quite obvious that something similar happened here. That reason isn't HarmoKnight, either, since that was a small project developed by very few employees in 2011.

Overeager assumptions just set you up for disappointment.

Speak for yourself. I am not the one looking forward to remakes on the DS with nothing more than wishful thinking to go on.

Even the blank statement doesn't say anything about releasing a game.

If they were going to release another game first, they'd hint at that one instead.

Originally Posted by Silktree

Yes, it does. There has to be a reason why they were given those development kits, and obviously the Generation V games have nothing to do with the 3DS.

How do you know when they were given development kits?

You don't. You're eagerly assuming that they they started work shortly after BW's release just like every overeager fan who says "next year will be the new generation".

Combine that with the fact that Black and White entered development way back in late 2006, it's quite obvious that something similar happened here.

Quite obvious if you like to jump to conclusions.

Speak for yourself. I am not the one looking forward to remakes on the DS with nothing more than wishful thinking to go on.

I would have hated to be one of the many people who hoped and wished for Johto remakes then... oh, wait.

If they were going to release another game first, they'd hint at that one instead.

Okay? What does that have to do with them not talking about releasing any games yet? All I've seen is a few statements saying that they are working on games.

Originally Posted by El_

Of course Generation 6 debuts next year, I hope that its innovative and truly appealing which I'm almost sure it will be. Hope that its as plot based as B/W were.

Originally Posted by Aquanova

I wonder if they will go back to Third Games in Gen 6 or continue making Sequels? I honestly liked B2W2, Id hope they'd want to continue with sequels.

I still maintain that simple third versions can no longer be justified with the advent of DLC. DLC can do a lot of things with this series like event Pokemon, (dreaded lol) new formes, different battles, new routes & areas, and even in game events. All of this is the usual third version territory, so Game Freak is gonna have to take it up a notch when the series moves to the 3DS.

The paired versions at the very least can be maintained far longer than normal until another main series game is released.

That's one of the main reasons why Gen 6 is something I long for more then anything. B2W2 is step in doing things right in terms of keeping the generation going, and with DLC even then its contributions could be easily dwarfed. Anything outisde of the main duo of games would need some serious extensions, perhaps even going as far as expanding the regional dex. Hell if you think about it the number of Pokemon in the dex might be revealed but its gonna take a good long while getting them all revealed by the fanbase when they first come out, unless hacking goes far by the time they're out. And that's without considering that event Pokemon will literally be new Pokemon to us. Hacking has been a detrimental force for Pokemon, and it losing its power might be the best part of gen 6.

Originally Posted by Venator

Originally Posted by Silktree

Yes, it does. There has to be a reason why they were given those development kits, and obviously the Generation V games have nothing to do with the 3DS.

How do you know when they were given development kits?

You don't. You're eagerly assuming that they they started work shortly after BW's release just like every overeager fan who says "next year will be the new generation".

Combine that with the fact that Black and White entered development way back in late 2006, it's quite obvious that something similar happened here.

Quite obvious if you like to jump to conclusions.

Speak for yourself. I am not the one looking forward to remakes on the DS with nothing more than wishful thinking to go on.

I would have hated to be one of the many people who hoped and wished for Johto remakes then... oh, wait.

If they were going to release another game first, they'd hint at that one instead.

Okay? What does that have to do with them not talking about releasing any games yet? All I've seen is a few statements saying that they are working on games.

Yes we do. GF was openly making statements when the 3DS was revealed and numerous times have they been stated by Nintendo themselves that they first got the kit before a lot of other studios. As for the obvious bit, its always known that GF works 2-3 games simultaneously which is why BW doesn't have a lot of stuff HGSS has, or for that matter Pt doesn't have that HGSS does. They always worked in teams, and when BW was done the backup worked on B2W2 while the main team was trudging along to the new gen on the 3DS.

Well, we all know it was going to happen sooner or later, the hints were all over the place, mainly with how the anime has been going lately.

There are many things I'm hoping to see in Gen 6, mainly evolutions to some of my favorite Pokemon (not Eevee though, as I personally don't want any new Eeveelutions), but of course, I will like the original ideas too. Game Freak just better not disappoint me.

Originally Posted by Robo-Floatzel

Well, we all know it was going to happen sooner or later, the hints were all over the place, mainly with how the anime has been going lately.

There are many things I'm hoping to see in Gen 6, mainly evolutions to some of my favorite Pokemon (not Eevee though, as I personally don't want any new Eeveelutions), but of course, I will like the original ideas too. Game Freak just better not disappoint me.

Id dissagree on the Eeveelution bit, it's been a while since we have seen Eeveelutions and I definately would not mind seeing more if Game Freak is willing to make more. Also if I recall correctly the 3DS is extremely hard to hack, meaning event Pokemon will actually be secret again. I kinda like that, it gives a nostalgic feel for the early generations when no one knew about them. With DLC, they can keep them secret and it will actually be a surprise when they release them.

I wouldn't be too surprised with eeveelutions either, considering how all this advertisement could lead to some new additions.

Originally Posted by Aquanova

Originally Posted by Robo-Floatzel

Well, we all know it was going to happen sooner or later, the hints were all over the place, mainly with how the anime has been going lately.

There are many things I'm hoping to see in Gen 6, mainly evolutions to some of my favorite Pokemon (not Eevee though, as I personally don't want any new Eeveelutions), but of course, I will like the original ideas too. Game Freak just better not disappoint me.

Id dissagree on the Eeveelution bit, it's been a while since we have seen Eeveelutions and I definately would not mind seeing more if Game Freak is willing to make more. Also if I recall correctly the 3DS is extremely hard to hack, meaning event Pokemon will actually be secret again. I kinda like that, it gives a nostalgic feel for the early generations when no one knew about them. With DLC, they can keep them secret and it will actually be a surprise when they release them.

Agreed, I'm looking forward to what new Eeveelution(s) we'll get this time around. Also, it will be fun to go back to those days, 5th gen pretty much proved that they can still hide things from us with the Therian forms and Keldeo Resolute form so it'll be nice to actually have that continued feeling of surprise when the new pokemon/forms come out.

Originally Posted by Mitchman

Yes we do. GF was openly making statements when the 3DS was revealed and numerous times have they been stated by Nintendo themselves that they first got the kit before a lot of other studios.

Actually, now that you mention it, I do recall that.

However, I have considerable doubts that it means that we'll be getting Generation 6 in less than a year.

At earliest, it will be released in late 2013 (September/October) but I feel it's much more likely to be released mid 2014.

Generation 5 doesn't magically end because people get anxious for Gen 6.

Originally Posted by Venator

Generation 5 doesn't magically end because people get anxious for Gen 6.

No, it magically ends because there is literally nothing left for it.

Originally Posted by Venator

At earliest, it will be released in late 2013 (September/October)

No one here said that it would be released before then. September is the standard guess.

but I feel it's much more likely to be released mid 2014.

Based on what?