Thread: I think Game Freak is trying to win back the Gen 1-3 crowd?

If you go to sites Youtube and Facebook, you'll notice a large amount people who ether hasn't played a Pokemon game after gen 3 or think the series have gone downhill with since Gen 4, with the poor sales of White 2 and Black 2, it seems Game Freak is trying to win back those "fans" with X and Y, i mean think about it Mewtwo was brought back for no reason, the Pidgey and Zigzagoon evolutionary lines are in the Kalos pokedex which is odd for a regional bird and rodent, and the rumored return of the Kanto starters.

Any thoughts?

I doubt Gamefreak cares about "winning back" old fans when they still have a large fanbase of old and new fan who will be buying the games regardless. This whole thing is probably just a coincidence.

Also, seeing as this thing about getting the Kanto starters is an unlikely rumor, I wouldn't use it as evidence.

I personally hate the New Mewtwo form Gen VI has introduced (my least favorite Pokemon by far of all the Gen VI Pokemon we've got a sneak peek at, most of which I actually like now), personally, and I started from Gen I with the games and anime. My least favorite Gen was IV as well, but I don't think they're trying to win me back. That's just me, though. You may be on to something here. lol.

I don't think so. GF wants to bring in new kids who have parents with jingly pockets and purses, not old fanbase.
Why not both? A very good question.

There's no reason to believe that any of these things point to winning back lost fans.

Mewtwo getting a new forme is likely just because it relates to XY's apparent theme with genetics. And honestly, Zigzagoon and Pidgey (Really? Pidgey was there too?) means nothing. There's been generations before that have introduced older Pokemon in their regions, and so that people can at least catch a few of them without having to rely on transferals.

Originally Posted by Akzivx V

I don't think so. GF wants to bring in new kids who have parents with jingly pockets and purses, not old fanbase.
Why not both? A very good question.

Well, crazy thought. Where is the "old fanbase" now? Some of them are the "parents with jingly pockets and purses."

mind = blown

Originally Posted by Isamu Akai

There's no reason to believe that any of these things point to winning back lost fans.

Mewtwo getting a new forme is likely just because it relates to XY's apparent theme with genetics. And honestly, Zigzagoon and Pidgey (Really? Pidgey was there too?) means nothing. There's been generations before that have introduced older Pokemon in their regions, and so that people can at least catch a few of them without having to rely on transferals.

Except those "older" Pokemon didn't include a regional bird and a rodent appearing in a non-international pokedex.

i mean think about it Mewtwo was brought back for no reason

He's the Genetics Pokemon in a generation that's more than likely gonna have something to do with genetics. I wouldn't call that no reason. It actually makes perfect sense.

the Pidgey and Zigzagoon evolutionary lines are in the Kalos pokedex which is odd for a regional bird and rodent,

How, exactly? This has happened in before. Johto, for example, has Pidgey and Rattata.

and the rumored return of the Kanto starters.

Well, being that it's a rumor...I wouldn't count on that, as has been mentioned.

I can't say I feel that GF is trying to win back their old fans. People quit Pokemon for such dumb reasons, that I don't think they could be won back. They have plenty of fans and don't need to satisfy the ones who've quit.

Appealing to the older audience (in regards to Mewtwo) is another thing, though.

Originally Posted by Macromaster

Originally Posted by Isamu Akai

There's no reason to believe that any of these things point to winning back lost fans.

Mewtwo getting a new forme is likely just because it relates to XY's apparent theme with genetics. And honestly, Zigzagoon and Pidgey (Really? Pidgey was there too?) means nothing. There's been generations before that have introduced older Pokemon in their regions, and so that people can at least catch a few of them without having to rely on transferals.

Except those "older" Pokemon didn't include a regional bird and a rodent appearing in a non-international pokedex.

And your point being?

GF has broken trends before, and it looks like they continue to do so. So what if they decide to include Pidgey and Zigzagoon in Kalos' Dex? It does not mean that it is a means of trying to appease to older fans.

Originally Posted by Team Gaara

the Pidgey and Zigzagoon evolutionary lines are in the Kalos pokedex which is odd for a regional bird and rodent,

How, exactly? This has happened in before. Johto, for example, has Pidgey and Rattata.

Johto was right next to Kanto so it made sense to have a Kanto bird and rodent in the Johto dex Kalos is nowhere close to hoenn or Kanto yet we're getting the Zigzagoon and Pidgey lines within the Kalos dex before the regional bird and rodent of gen 6.

Originally Posted by EmotionalTensionPKMN

I personally hate the New Mewtwo form Gen VI has introduced (my least favorite Pokemon by far of all the Gen VI Pokemon we've got a sneak peek at, most of which I actually like now), personally, and I started from Gen I with the games and anime. My least favorite Gen was IV as well, but I don't think they're trying to win me back. That's just me, though. You may be on to something here. lol.

Gen 4 was good imo.

Originally Posted by Macromaster

Originally Posted by Team Gaara

the Pidgey and Zigzagoon evolutionary lines are in the Kalos pokedex which is odd for a regional bird and rodent,

How, exactly? This has happened in before. Johto, for example, has Pidgey and Rattata.

Johto was right next to Kanto so it made sense to have a Kanto bird and rodent in the Johto dex Kalos is nowhere close to hoenn or Kanto yet we're getting the Zigzagoon and Pidgey lines within the Kalos dex before the regional bird and rodent of gen 6.

It could just be that those Pokemon are also native to Kalos. And we don't know for sure that Zigzagoon and possibly Pidgey are before the regional bird and rodent of Gen VI.

Originally Posted by Macromaster

Originally Posted by EmotionalTensionPKMN

I personally hate the New Mewtwo form Gen VI has introduced (my least favorite Pokemon by far of all the Gen VI Pokemon we've got a sneak peek at, most of which I actually like now), personally, and I started from Gen I with the games and anime. My least favorite Gen was IV as well, but I don't think they're trying to win me back. That's just me, though. You may be on to something here. lol.

Gen 4 was good imo.

It never really clicked with me as much as the others gens have. Though it could be moreso because of my disappointment with the Gen 4 anime that transferred over to the games, IMO. I know Gen 5 has been the worst received yet, though, but I've enjoyed it more than Gen 4 myself so far.

I don't see the divide/break to begin with. Various people like each gen more or less, depending on their own preferences, there isn't some kind of pattern to say that there is a particular reason for it that is anything other than unreasonable expectations, or maybe being over-nostalgic regarding earlier generations because they are childhood memories, when the quality itself hasn't changed, just the people themselves who have these opinions. Game Freak doesn't need to 'win these people over', because there's nothing they can do to try to do that. It's impossible. They will like or dislike as they see fit, after they do their best it's mostly out of their hands. They are just keeping it real, trying to do right by the pokemon world as a whole, and if some people like it, that's awesome, and if some people don't, then whatever. Everyone is never going to be happy. If it ever happened, a few people would change their minds and decide to hate it, just to be contrary.

Originally Posted by Macromaster

If you go to sites Youtube and Facebook, you'll notice a large amount people who ether hasn't played a Pokemon game after gen 3 or think the series have gone downhill with since Gen 4,

Don't mean to sound rude but, what else is new? People have their favorite gens and opinions on others, but they don't count for the majority nor are they Game Freak's focus. No different than people saying that they haven't played since Gens 1 or 2.

Originally Posted by Macromaster

with the poor sales of White 2 and Black 2, it seems Game Freak is trying to win back those "fans" with X and Y, i mean think about it Mewtwo was brought back for no reason, the Pidgey and Zigzagoon evolutionary lines are in the Kalos pokedex which is odd for a regional bird and rodent, and the rumored return of the Kanto starters.

Any thoughts?

Like said, its probably the Genetics theme which is why Mewtwo is back. There were even small hints in the previous Gen 5 that Mewtwo might get some kind of new focus, such as the signature move after 4 generations and the promotional events. (Also its remake of sorts, Genesect)

As for Pidgey/Zigzagoon, the Pokedex simply needs to be filled out. Nothing more to it than that. Seriously, this thread might have made more sense one Gen ago when GF really did try to bring back the older fans with Black/White.

With BW2, I think people were just very confused by it, since before we've always had a 'special version', rather than a sequel, and then this happens? I gather quite a few people deigned not to get it because they had weird ideas that a sequel was somehow inferior to a special version, when actually the sequel was kind of better. I mean the special versions are almost literally a replay of the other versions, while the sequel actually had quite a lot of new things in it and a different story altogether. In the future, I wouldn't mind sequels rather than a special version.