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    Default Trading Rules and References: Please Read!

    Hey everybody. Your friendly neighborhood Politoed here with another installment of NEW TCG THREAD. That's right! Another new TCG thread! This time it's about online card trading, something I'd like to get off the ground here. Archaic tried to start one here, but it didn't really get going. So, I'm gonna try to start us off fresh with a different set of rules and some beginning threads of my own.

    As opposed to starting a single thread where everyone can post their haves and wants, like Archaic did, I think each individual user who's interested is entitled to their own trading threads. The base format and rules of this system will be derived from PokéGym's Trading Post subforums, although ours won't be quite so advanced and won't have as many strict rules.

    Unfortunately, we currently don't have enough activity for a trading subforum (as Archaic said), but we'll try to start off trading in just the normal TCG forums, right here. Additionally, we don't have the software to incorporate the 'Gym's iTrader ref system, so we'll have to settle with manual reference-leaving and ref counts. The 'Gym used that system until a few months ago, and it worked pretty well for them, so it should work fine for us, too. So, I guess it's on to the actual content.

    How does online trading work?

    Well, it's not as complicated as one might think. "Online trading" may sound intimidating (or it may not), but it really isn't. Each user interested may post a few trading threads listing the cards they HAVE and the cards they WANT. Pokémon items, TFG stuff, and other POKÉMON RELATED items are permissible also, but the focus here should be on TCG trading. So, after a user posts their have/want thread, other users can post on that thread listing cards they want off that user's haves and what they have to offer off that user's wants. Then, the thread's starter replies with a downright rejection, a counteroffer, or an acceptance. It goes on like this until those two either drop the conversation or reach an agreement; either no trade or a trade both users can agree on. After a trade is settled, the two users complete the deal through Private Message, deciding who will send first and exchanging addresses. From there, whoever it has been decided will send first mails the cards to the other user and waits for confirmation of the other user's receiving the cards.

    When the other user receives the cards they MUST send a confirmation PM to the other user ASAP after they receive. Then, they send out the cards to the user they received from. When that user receives, they also send a confirmation PM. When all is said and done, both users will leave a REFERENCE (see below) for the other user on the reference thread (coming soon!). Then the trade is complete.

    It is allowed for users to participate in more than one trade at the same time, provided they are organized and make sure to send the cards. Those are the basics of online trading. Any questions? Post and I'll answer them ASAP.

    How will I deal with rippers

    A ripper/scammer/asshole is someone who talks you into sending first or same time, but then never sends out the cards and drops all communication with you. You can typically identify a ripper when you send out the cards, do not receive yours, and hear nothing from the ripper when you contact them. Rippers are BAD. We don't want them here. Basically, if you feel you've been ripped, report it to ME and I'll examine the situation. If I also feel you've been ripped, I will BAN the offender on sight. Yeah. If you're reading this and you plan on ripping, please don't. No one likes rippers. Then again, you're probably laughing at this as you read it because you're an ignorant asshole who doesn't give a damn about me, the other good-faith users, or the whole site. Don't rip. I can't stress it enough.

    Although most of the time when you don't receive your cards, you've been ripped, sometimes the postal service screws up and you don't receive your cards because of that. In those instances, there are other tell-tale signs of rippers. But I don't want to mention them here because the rippers will avoid them if I do.

    Basically, tell me if the other user doesn't hold up their end of the bargain.

    How do references work?

    References are actually easier than you'd think. Simply post a reply here that says that you successfully completed a trade with so-and-so. If you felt the experience was bad, say why. If you felt the experience was good, say why as well. That's about it. Other users can check the references for information regarding other people they may possibly trade with, to see if it's a good idea. Typically, users with fewer references send first.

    How can I make my own thread?

    Simple, again. Just make it like a normal thread, except instead of paragraphs you'll be listing cards you WANT and cards you HAVE. To make it easier to skim through, organize your haves by set. A pretty good example of a trade thread is here, if I may link to the 'Gym. That's the kind of trade thread you should aspire to have. We basically like the same kind of thread they do.

    Another thing you should post on your thread is a list of RULES. These are rules regarding trading that others must abide by if they wish to post on your thread. If you make a deal with someone on THEIR thread, you are subject to their rules. Rules may be regarding anything regarding trading, such as where you will and will not send and how many refs other people may have.

    Well, that's all for now. I'd appreciate it if you all refrained from making your own threads until tomorrow, when I should have posted a list of specific guidelines. I know you all just can't wait! LOL. I know no one cares about the TCG forums... I dunno why I bother. But prove me wrong! Post with any questions below.
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    Default Trading Thread Rules: Please Read!

    The time is near. I hope to post my own trading thread very soon. In preparation, I'd like to give a general overview of rules I expect all users trading in this forum to abide by. Note that in addition to these rules, regular users may impose rules of their own, but they must be clearly stated in that users thread and are only effective in that user's thread. If a user chooses to initiate a trade in another user's thread, the initial user must abide by the rules stated in that thread; not their own. So, without further ado, here are the basic all-inclusive rules for trading on BMGf.

    1. Don't rip. Just don't do it. This is the big one. For more info, see the Trading FAQ thread.

    2. Send when you say you're going to send. If you don't, the other user may or may not be sympathetic for your reason, and you two will have to work it out.

    3. You are allowed up to three (3) open trading threads. What you put in each of them is up to you, but I suggest one for MODIFIED card, one for UNLIMITED cards, and one for COMMONS AND UNCOMMONS. It's your choice, though.

    4. Use decent grammar, spelling, and punctuation. No joke. It makes it hard to understand you when you talk like "lolz man i need ur card for my card but whatz that card man u gotsmore stuffn off, my want?" That can result in failing trades.

    5. Leave refs after you trade. More in the FAQ.

    6. Post your personal rules on your thread. You can't ask people to abide by rules they're not aware of.

    7. If you have a problem, talk to me about it. More in the FAQ.

    8. Moderators and Administrators may be exempt from some of these rules, but only in certain scenarios.

    9. I think that's it for general rules that everyone must abide by... but I may post more at any time, so be on the lookout.

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    Default Trade References thread

    This thread is NOT for negotiating any trades, so please do not use it as such.

    i have been working for a while to find a way to format this. I do not know how well this will work, so please bear with me for a while as i work out any kinks.
    This intended use of this thread is to discover who is trustworthy on this site, and who is here just to rip you.

    When you recieve cards from a trade pm or vm me telling me if the cards are 'as described' or 'not as described'

    If the cards are as described, the sender will recieve 1 refrence (or ref) NEVER SAY THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE RECIEVED YOUR CARDS.

    If the cards are not as described (please use pms for this, as it could just be a misunderstanding or accident), the issue will be looked into between the sender, reciever, me, and Politoed666 to determine what action should be taken further.

    If you never recieve your cards after sending yours (wait at least 3 weeks after they claim to have sent, or if they will no longer answer when you try to contact them) as well as any other issues not listed here, pm me and the issue will be dealt with accordingly (which could result in permanent bans from the site, SO DO NOT POST SOMETHING UNLESS IT IS TRUE, im sure Politoed666 would agree with me that doing so would result in a ban)

    If you have completed a trade and have recieved positive feedback, but no reference, let me know and i will attempt to get it sorted out.

    In trades involving me, i will count positive feedback with no complaints as a 'as described' post

    Just because someone has no refs, doesnt mean that they arent trustworthy, it could mean that they are new to online trading.

    Finally, here are the refs that i currently have

    Palbert6393 9 refs

    Politoed666 ∞ refs :D

    Oxymoron 8 refs

    Arcanine03 5 ref

    June_Bug 2 refs

    Pwnie 3 refs

    Bloop 3 ref

    Laterna 1 ref

    Ein 1 ref

    inverness 1 ref

    Sexy Samurott 1 ref

    daniedeter 1 ref

    CakefortheSoul 1 ref

    Axel Evans Sharp 1 ref

    Pokeslob 1 ref

    Lord Mewtwo 1 ref

    Pidgeotmaster 1 ref

    Tolanator 1 ref

    Shuckle 1 ref

    Milkapoke
    1 ref



    If you have any questions, you can either message me or post them here.
    I plan on updating this once a day, or as needed. If you should have a ref but not yet, wait at least 48 hrs before bringing this to my attention
    Happy Trading Everyone
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    For now, guys, defer to Palbert on this. Palbert, I'd appreciate it if you could keep this as up-to-date as possible... with the lack of real trading activity going on, that shouldn't be too tough.

    So yeah. If anyone has a problem, please bring it to me. But if you're leaving someone a ref, either positive or negative, make a post here and the OP will be updated.

    Thanks.

    EDIT: Also, to be honest, I haven't really kept track of who I've traded with. With over 900 PMs stored, I don't really want to look through them aimlessly for confirmed trades. So, if you've traded with me and would like a ref, please post. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    Also, if anyone changes their username, let me know so I can change refs accordingly
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    I'm not sure if I'm doing this right...I wanted to make sure Oxymoron24 got credit. I received my cards from her in perfect condition and very promptly. I'm very pleased!
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    Quote Originally Posted by volb88 View Post
    I'm not sure if I'm doing this right...I wanted to make sure Oxymoron24 got credit. I received my cards from her in perfect condition and very promptly. I'm very pleased!
    Yes you are. thanks.
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    I did a trade with Oxymoron24, and everything went great :D (good communication and the cards were in great condition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by june bug View Post
    I did a trade with Oxymoron24, and everything went great :D (good communication and the cards were in great condition)
    taken care of
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    I received another lot of cards from Oxymoron24. They are in great condition, and shipping was fast.
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    Did another trade with Oxymoron24. Cards were received in excellent condition :)

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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    Received cards from Oxymoron24 and she received my cards as well. Same condition it was described.
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    Default Re: Trade References thread

    If you guys have refs that need to updated in the future, keep posting them here, but i ask you to be patient with me. Computer access is not easy at the current time... give me at least a week before getting concerned.
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    Another +1 Ref for Oxy! Just received her cards. Now i'm just waiting for my 2 ref from Oxy. :)
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    Recieved stuff from Shucle today. Great trader.

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