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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke_King View Post
    Where did you find these new dates, I checked bulbapedia and didn't see any change?
    What BoredPikachu said. I found dates for up to volume 14 of Viz and Platinum volume 2 (and Bulbapedia is updated with them too), but the rest are just a prediction based on the pattern they seem to be following with their releases. I.E. One every other month for one side, and one every three months (like Japan) for the other.

    Technically I could make a chart predicting the release date for every volume if someone wants, but for now I thought one for 2011with most factual info was good enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Kamex View Post
    It is a fan site though. I'm sure they'd rather check somewhere official.
    Hmm, another good point. I don't know why but I almost forget sometimes that it's a fan site with how well done the site is. :p And probably. I wonder, does Nintendo send them a list with all the Japanese to English names or something? If they did, while it would be annoying to look through the list, it would be a lot better than actually searching every term online or something. I mean I don't think Viz is playing the games to check for the terms or anything, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu Shoji View Post
    To be honest though, as Dogasu as said, there are a lot of proper nouns in Pokémon; the odd mistake shouldn't be so much of a big deal. Sure, they could put every one into Bulbapedia to check, but that would take quite a bit of time, and Viz Media have to translate an enormous amount of manga. It would be nice if they could quickly check so they can revise them for a second printing (if one happens), but I doubt it.
    I agree. An odd mistake every now and then shouldn't be that much of a problem; and at least all of them are minor. It's not like they're messing up a Gym Leader's name or something, lol. And that's true too. I'm pretty sure it's only one team within Viz Media translating Special though, but your point still stands. (I mean they are only one group and then they probably work on other Adventures volumes when they finish; and maybe even other series...) I doubt a second printing would happen too, especially since that would make the printing of volumes 1-7 be a third edition. Dang, that's a lot of editions, lol. But it would be nice if one day after they finally catch up on the series, they released second editions or something that fixed all the errors. Some of their earlier second editions especially (like one and three, with swapping dialogue and town errors and what not) could really use them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey View Post
    I didn't actually notice the speed ball mistake, so I'm not that bothered by it. I did feel that there was a line mix up for Crys, when Professor Oak offered her some pokemon or something. I'd look up where, but I don't have the volume with me. It was something like Crys replied to his offer, and then on the next page said "no thanks" or something strange.

    Mistakes aside, I really liked this volume. I'd forgotten how awesome Crys is, but Eusine really stole the show.
    I hadn't noticed it either. I didn't realize it was an error 'til someone pointed it out and I double-checked. You have me curious about that error though; I think I vaguely remember some line that I thought was swapped or kinda funky. I'll have to check that out later, unless you beat me to it. :p

    Same here. I see Viz has gotten a new editor, and she seems to be doing a much better job than the first. (good translations, no censorship/milding down dialogue, ect.) I wish we would have had her for all the volumes though. And yeah, Crys is pretty sweet! :) And oh, Eusine always does. He's such a show stealer lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander Mitsumi View Post
    Still, those things are fact as taken from the games.
    But Viz would have to know ahead of time that there aren't any mistakes on that site.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1dbad
    Hmm, another good point. I don't know why but I almost forget sometimes that it's a fan site with how well done the site is. :p And probably. I wonder, does Nintendo send them a list with all the Japanese to English names or something? If they did, while it would be annoying to look through the list, it would be a lot better than actually searching every term online or something. I mean I don't think Viz is playing the games to check for the terms or anything, lol.
    Nintendo probably does send them a list (although I'm sure some of the translators know some stuff about the games), but it might not necessarily have every item. I'm not sure...

    Or it could be that the "Fast Ball" name was on the list and the person who translated the name didn't bother to check it because they figured a name like "Speed Ball" wouldn't have needed a new name when G/S were translated. Or something else... Not sure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dbad View Post
    What BoredPikachu said. I found dates for up to volume 14 of Viz and Platinum volume 2 (and Bulbapedia is updated with them too), but the rest are just a prediction based on the pattern they seem to be following with their releases. I.E. One every other month for one side, and one every three months (like Japan) for the other.
    Okay, just to clarify there will be a release every month in 2011 of either Platinum or the main series (as far as you know not including the predicted dates)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Kamex View Post
    Nintendo probably does send them a list (although I'm sure some of the translators know some stuff about the games), but it might not necessarily have every item. I'm not sure...

    Or it could be that the "Fast Ball" name was on the list and the person who translated the name didn't bother to check it because they figured a name like "Speed Ball" wouldn't have needed a new name when G/S were translated. Or something else... Not sure...
    That's what I was thinking. There must be some sort of list or else the translators would have to do a lot of research...I do agree with you though; I'm sure the translators (at least some of them) must know some stuff about the games, but they might not know everything. And as for the list, that would be odd for it to not have every item...I would assume it would have character names, item/badge/Pokeball names, and Pokemon names at the very least...

    That could very well be possible. To be honest I never knew it was a mistake 'til some people on here pointed it out, since it sounds like a Pokeball name. Speed Ball doesn't sound like something that would have needed a new American name. At least not to me. (then again I'm not the game translators/localizers so...) But that could very well have been the case. If I was the translator I would have double-checked just in case though. :p (again, that's just me though xD) But you're right, no telling what it was that caused them to make that mistake. Could be a number of things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke_King View Post
    Okay, just to clarify there will be a release every month in 2011 of either Platinum or the main series (as far as you know not including the predicted dates)
    No. There will not be a release every month of 2011 of either the main series or Platinum. Again, let me redirect you to my chart. But, to make it easier and clear up any confusion, after each release date I will put whether it's confirmed or simply my speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1dbad View Post
    For next year it looks like this:
    February 2011 - Volume 11 (CONFIRMED)
    March 2011 - Platinum V.1 (originally Feb 1st, now moved to March 1st, CONFIRMED)
    April 2011 - Volume 12 (CONFIRMED)
    June 2011 - Volume 13 & Platinum V.2 (CONFIRMED)
    August 2011 - Volume 14 (CONFIRMED)
    September 2011 - Platinum V.3 (PREDICTION)
    October 2011 - Volume 15 (PREDICTION)
    December 2011 - Volume 16 & Platinum V.4 (PREDICTION)
    Does that make it any easier for you guys? But no, there will not be a release of the main series and/or Platinum every month. There will be only a couple of periods where we'll get them every month, like Feb-April 2011 and August-October 2011 for example. But, as you can see above, we will not be getting an Adventures volumes (main series or Platinum) for the months of January, May, July, and, if you count my predictions, November. :3

    So I hope that helps guys. And I hope it's a bit more clear this time...

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    Basically, if the predictions are correct, there will be some kind of Adventures release (be it GS or Platinum) every month, except for January, May, July and November.

    Luckily, manga volumes aren't that expensive =3

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    Alright I understand know , sorry I can tend to be a bit slow at times. Also the chart is very helpful and if you do get around to making a complete one that would be fantastic (I'm not asking though because I can understand how busy everyone is, especially now)

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    I rather enjoyed this volume. I went in with bad expectations but I've actually grown to like the new art style. Of course I have enough nostalgia with Mato's art to miss it a bit but since a replacement was necessary I'm glad they found a good one.

    Did anyone else find it poignant that in Volume 9 Red has to give up an opportunity to be famous doing the thing he loves because of a disability in his hands so his legacy is sort of "passed on" to Blue... and in Volume 10's development, Mato's illness hit her hands and she had to stop doing the thing she loved and it got "passed on" to Yamamoto? I'm sure it was coincidence, as Mato nor Yamamoto had a part in the actual writing and I doubt Mato knew of her impended tragedy when the last chapters of Volume 9 were being written, but either way when I noticed the connection I got chills.
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    Oh..well..damn

    I never thought of that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu Shoji View Post
    Basically, if the predictions are correct, there will be some kind of Adventures release (be it GS or Platinum) every month, except for January, May, July and November.

    Luckily, manga volumes aren't that expensive =3
    Like I said, not everything on the list is my predictions. Most of them are 100% confirmed; not only on Bulbapedia, but on Amazon and other sites that sell manga volumes as well. So volumes 11, 12, 13 and 14, and Platinum volumes 1 and 2, will most definitely be out next year without a doubt. (like I said in my post above) Which means we won't have any releases in January, May, or July. Those months are confirmed not to have anything since the releases around those months as confirmed. So the only one that isn't confirmed is November since the last few volumes (volumes 15, 16 and Platinum volumes 3 and 4) are just my predictions for now. But, they are most likely correct; so we most likely won't have anything in November either. But on the bright side, we'll be getting a Special volume almost every month next year, which is cool. ^^

    And you're right, luckily most mangas are fairly cheap. (thank goodness or else I'd have even less spending money than I do now...) I noticed that Viz's volumes especially tend to be cheaper; usually only around $7 something which is pretty good. :3 And the most experience price for a manga volume I've seen yet is $10.95, and that usually is the price for Del Ray's manga volumes. And even then, that isn't that bad. ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke_King View Post
    Alright I understand know , sorry I can tend to be a bit slow at times. Also the chart is very helpful and if you do get around to making a complete one that would be fantastic (I'm not asking though because I can understand how busy everyone is, especially now)
    I'm glad you finally understand now. ^^ And no worries, happens to all of us at times. ;] I'm sorry myself actually; I hope I didn't seem rude or anything to you. :3 Rereading my post it kind of seems I did, but I honestly didn't mean it. So if I did I'm really sorry, was just having a bad day that day. >>; But I'm glad my chart could help you out! =) And I appreciate you understanding how busy everyone is, but I'll gladly make a complete chart to try to help out. Since I already did one for 2011 I'll do one for 2012-onward if that's okay. And it'll be all predictions based on their pattern since nothing past 2011 is confirmed yet. But I'll edit my post later once I have it finished, k? So be sure to be on the look out. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanLuc Pika-Q View Post
    I rather enjoyed this volume. I went in with bad expectations but I've actually grown to like the new art style. Of course I have enough nostalgia with Mato's art to miss it a bit but since a replacement was necessary I'm glad they found a good one.

    Did anyone else find it poignant that in Volume 9 Red has to give up an opportunity to be famous doing the thing he loves because of a disability in his hands so his legacy is sort of "passed on" to Blue... and in Volume 10's development, Mato's illness hit her hands and she had to stop doing the thing she loved and it got "passed on" to Yamamoto? I'm sure it was coincidence, as Mato nor Yamamoto had a part in the actual writing and I doubt Mato knew of her impended tragedy when the last chapters of Volume 9 were being written, but either way when I noticed the connection I got chills.
    I'm so glad to hear you enjoy it and that you really like the new art style. :3 Especially since you're stuck with it from now on. ^^; But going in with low expectations was a good idea, but I really don't get why you expected Satoshi's art to be so bad. I mean I can understand liking Mato's and having nostalgia with it, but really, his artwork isn't that bad at all. In fact, it's actually my favorite for the series since I believe it fits the seriousness of the series a lot more, and works a lot better for the battle scenes and what not.

    I doubt it's intentional too, but I wouldn't be so sure Mato didn't know. Mato's artwork was slowly but surely decreasing as it went along, so she actually may have known it would eventually overpower her. She may not have, but it is a possibility. But back to your point about the odd coincidence -- I had never thought of it that way. =o But that's a very clever thing you picked up on there, and it makes a lot of sense. How oddly befitting and symbolic in a way.

    And hey, speaking of all of this, can I ask you a question? I know Mato quit because of the illness in her hands, but do you know exactly what disease she has/got? You mentioned that it hit (I'm guessing you mean as in it 'spread to'?) her hands which got me curious, and you seem like you actually know some about it. So I thought it was at least worth asking since I've never been able to find out EXACTLY what the disease is/was, besides that it affected her hands and forced her to quit.
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    The only thing I didn't like artwise this volume was Crys; sometimes her face made her look like she had the personality of a 4-year old, not a 10-year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryu Shoji View Post
    The only thing I didn't like artwise this volume was Crys; sometimes her face made her look like she had the personality of a 4-year old, not a 10-year old.
    Really? I always thought that's just because she has a sweet and easily pleased personality most of the time, not so much anything with the art. And actually she's 11. Almost every Special protagonist is 11, and occasionally we'll get a 10 year old. (like Sapphire, although she turns 11 by the end of her arc anyway) Yellow's the only exception since she's the youngest one yet I believe.

    Oh, and I updated my post with my predictions for all future release dates, btw. :p So feel free to check that out if any of you guys are interested.

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    Yeah, I've noticed that for some reason Crystal's face gets drawn kinda like an innocuous child even younger than her own age; it gets a little better by the time she shows up later on, though.

    Volume 11's for February, right?

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    Yeah, February 2011 is when Volume 11 is out.

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    I think the reason why Crystal looks that way was because Yamamoto tried to copy Mato's art style (or so I've heard)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eitaro View Post
    I think the reason why Crystal looks that way was because Yamamoto tried to copy Mato's art style (or so I've heard)...
    Yes, and starting with the RS arc they told him he could use his own style.

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