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    I think they will keep the Union Jack out of historical significance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-Aku View Post
    how about this Attachment 93015 or just the cross or even just the x
    Ugh god no!
    Either we will change the whole flag or we will use another colour. (People are thinking of using black or orange!)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I think they will keep the Union Jack out of historical significance.
    No we will have to change it, the union flag is meant to represent a united England,Scotland,Wales and Nothern Ireland.
    If Scotland leave, we will hav to take the blue out the flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Apex View Post

    Ugh god no!
    Either we will change the whole flag or we will use another colour. (People are thinking of using black or orange!)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I think they will keep the Union Jack out of historical significance.
    No we will have to change it, the union flag is meant to represent a united England,Scotland,Wales and Nothern Ireland.
    If Scotland leave, we will hav to take the blue out the flag.
    They didn't take out the Cross of St. Patrick when Ireland left. Why would they take out St. Andrew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Apex View Post

    Ugh god no!
    Either we will change the whole flag or we will use another colour. (People are thinking of using black or orange!)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I think they will keep the Union Jack out of historical significance.

    well the the union jack is really just a merger of three flags in one which is essentially what i was trying to do


    If Scotland leave, we will hav to take the blue out the flag.
    ENGLAND

    NORTHERN IRELAND

    SCOTLAND
    No we will have to change it, the union flag is meant to represent a united England,Scotland,Wales and Nothern Ireland.

    so see it looking like i have it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I think I'm leaning towards independence. Now when I refer to the UK as "England" nobody will get pissed at me anymore because there will be no more UK. I'll still miss that U though.
    Scotland leaving the UK will not end the UK, as Wales and N. Ireland will remain.

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    Ugh god no!
    Either we will change the whole flag or we will use another colour. (People are thinking of using black or orange!)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I think they will keep the Union Jack out of historical significance.
    No we will have to change it, the union flag is meant to represent a united England,Scotland,Wales and Nothern Ireland.
    If Scotland leave, we will hav to take the blue out the flag.
    They didn't take out the Cross of St. Patrick when Ireland left. Why would they take out St. Andrew?
    The Cross of St. Patrick was retained when the Republic of Ireland left the UK because it could be representative of Northern Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    They didn't take out the Cross of St. Patrick when Ireland left. Why would they take out St. Andrew?
    Because Nothern Ireland is still apart of the UK, the saint patricks cross represents the whole of Ireland.

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    People submit their design for a Scotland-free Union Jack all the time in the vexillology subreddit. There are some cool designs that people come up with. However, I think they have stated that they will not remove Saint Andrew's cross even if Scotland leaves since the queen will still be the head of state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I think they will keep the Union Jack out of historical significance.
    Plus, then all of the other countries that incorporate the Union Jack into their flag will have to change it to reflect the new Union Jack. Hopefully this might prompt some countries to adopt new flags that better reflect their countries since they will have to change flags anyway (I'm looking at you, Australia and New Zealand).

    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-Aku View Post
    No we will have to change it, the union flag is meant to represent a united England,Scotland,Wales and Nothern Ireland.
    And yet Wales is not represented, so clearly the rules can be bent in favor of a better looking flag.
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    If we could keep the flag the same that would be great!
    Oh and even if you did remove the blue from the uniob flag in australia and new zealands flag, it would still look the same!

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    To clarify, the United Kingdom was formed as union between the English and Scottish crowns. Wales was a part of England back then and Ireland was not initially involved. Hence, if Scotland leaves, the UK will technically cease to exist since the other two realms are not Kingdoms.

    You guys will figure something out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    To clarify, the United Kingdom was formed as union between the English and Scottish crowns. Wales was a part of England back then and Ireland was not initially involved. Hence, if Scotland leaves, the UK will technically cease to exist since the other two realms are not Kingdoms.

    You guys will figure something out.
    It was either Scotland joins the union and gets to keep its culture and heritage, or England forces Scotland to join the union and Scotland loses everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Apex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    To clarify, the United Kingdom was formed as union between the English and Scottish crowns. Wales was a part of England back then and Ireland was not initially involved. Hence, if Scotland leaves, the UK will technically cease to exist since the other two realms are not Kingdoms.

    You guys will figure something out.
    It was either Scotland joins the union and gets to keep its culture and heritage, or England forces Scotland to join the union and Scotland loses everything.
    I'm thankful for England for doing the latter because now most of the world speaks English, making my life much easier.

    Y > X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I'm thankful for England for doing the latter because now most of the world speaks English, making my life much easier.
    Not to forget the empire wich the sun doesn't set. (British empire)
    Scotland will probably go back to speaking gaelic anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Apex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    I'm thankful for England for doing the latter because now most of the world speaks English, making my life much easier.
    Not to forget the empire wich the sun doesn't set. (British empire)
    Scotland will probably go back to speaking gaelic anyway.
    Ireland did not. They tried. In fact they are still trying.

    Y > X

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    Scotland will probably go back to speaking gaelic anyway.
    No. There is of little use to teach Scottish kids a dying language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolene View Post
    Ireland did not. They tried. In fact they are still trying.
    There are terrorists in Ireland who want to make Ireland whole and cut ties with britian. If this somehow suceeds,they will go back to speaking irish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maglev View Post
    No. There is of little use to teach Scottish kids a dying language.
    Let's not rule it out just yet, Scottish people may want to restore Scotland to how it was 200 years ago.

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