When all is said and done and I put politics aside, I have to respect her for her tenacity and her confidence regardless of whether I agree with how she used it. Margaret Thatcher was a formidable woman and she did what she decided she wanted to do - which is more than I feel I can say for many politicians.
Rest in peace, Iron Lady.
~ Formerly known as Kaori ~
Either way, I honestly think the hatred right now is just a small minority acting out, and not a representation of Britain as a whole, atleast I hope.
It's interesting to note that in Political Film Class we did cover the end of Thatcher's run as PM, called "The Deal" it is a interesting movie to show, how Labour was forced to adjust their politics in order to gain power, and move into a more centrist position.
nearly 1000-strong street parties going on in Glasgow & Brixton, nor her famously bad PR, I am almost certain that her detractors are not small in number.
I don't think it's representative of Britain as a whole, but I think it is a sizeable portion of people who are really very, very happy.
She caused a lot of damage to Britain (even if she did some very good things too) and I think people have legitimate cause for hatred of her. There's a lot of world leaders who people wouldn't even for a second question the right of their people to hate and potentially celebrate the death of. Granted that in most cases these are figures who are much more extreme than Thatcher was, but it shows at least that respecting someone who dies isn't an infinite obligation. There are people in Britain today who are still feeling very serious negative repercussions of decisions that she took, so I would struggle to seriously criticise them for being happy about her death. (I might question what good they think will or has come from it that didn't already come from her coming out of power, but I can at least recognise that it's a natural, understandable, and cathartic reaction to be happy at the news of and even celebrate the death of someone who you see (quite legitimately in many cases) as personally responsible for having an extreme negative impact on your life as it is today.)
To get a better idea how Britons feel about her.
50% say she positively contributed to the country
34% say she negatively contributed to the country
25% say she was "Very Good"
20% say she was "Very Bad"
Britain divided on Thatcher record, but 50% claim positive contribution – poll | Politics | guardian.co.uk
Honestly of that 20% that say she was "Very Bad" I would say the numbers are in the single digits of those that have acted out.
Of course, don't take my word for it: According to the Guardian, 34% believe she was very bad for the country, or slightly more than 1/3rd of the entire country. Whilst that is a minority, I wouldn't call it small by a long shot.
EDIT: Lol, you beat me to it, with the exact same survey. Well, the point still stands--a Hell of a lot of people dislike Thatcher, not the small minority you suggest.
Somehow, I have a feeling that the families affected by the sky rocketing unemployment & high suicide rates during Thatcher's reign might beg to differ. Mainly because I'm from one, and I find your implication that people are somehow wasting their time by being bitter over the Iron Lady's more draconian actions deeply offensive. I'll hold my tongue regarding full extent of my sentiment towards Thatcher, but don't tell me I'm being silly for feeling that way in the first place.It may just be me, but I believe the vast majority of people have better things to do.
Since we are in a Pokemon forum, I would like to take a moment to point out the Margaret Thatcher reference in Black and White 2.
In the type expert tournament in the PWT, there is a steel type trainer named Margaret. She is called Thatcher in the Japanese version.
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Yeah, current being the key word. During her time in power, Thatcher set new lows for public opinion of politicians, with her approval rating falling to just 25% in 1981, the lowest of any Prime Minister up til then. It's only a combination of the time elapsed since her position in power, dementia & finally death that's causing people to feel sorry for her again, and hence allowing her approval rating to creep back up.Originally Posted by Big Lutz
Also, since I missed this earlier:
Oh, but 1/5th of the UK doesn't just hate Thatcher--they heavily hate her, and that's decades after the fact. As I mentioned above, when Thatcher was in power she set a record low for public approval, and eventually pissed everyone off so much that she got a knife in the back from her own cabinet. Thatcher was (and still is) the target of obscenely high &widespread degrees of hatred, which relatively few politicians (both here and abroad) have since managed to replicate.Having 1/5th of the country hate you is something practically every politician will face no matter what.
Actually, given that 300 people attended, and the population of Glasgow is ~600,000, it's more like 0.5%. Nevertheless, the fact that these street parties are happening at all is highly unusual, and a testament to how much a proportion of the country continues to despise Baroness Thatcher.Second the street parties represent 1/5th of 1 percent of the population of atleast Glasgow. That isn't exactly the most rousing statement of disapproval.