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    Default Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    Article (not quoting because title pretty much says it all)

    Do you think the United States accomplished its goals? Do you think we should stay longer? Do you think we've stayed too long? How do you feel about the state of Iraq as we're leaving? Do you think Iraq is better off now than it was before? Do you think it was worth the cost in money as well as human life? Discuss your thoughts.


    Every time something like this happens, I always think back to 2003, when we first went there. Back in those days, the reasoning for going to war was to find Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. Anyone else remember that? Later on when they didn't find any they had to come up with some other reasons involving spreading democracy and whatnot in order to justify staying there.
    That's nice.

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    Part of me doubts it, but I'm just glad that all that senseless fighting's come to an end...for now.
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    Do you think the United States accomplished its goals? In terms of ousting Saddam Hussein, passifying the terrorist threat, and creating a Democracy. I believe all those goals were accomplished.

    Do you think we should stay longer? A bit longer in training the Iraqi forces and securing the Iran and Syria border would have been nice.

    How do you feel about the state of Iraq as we're leaving? I believe it is in better shape than it was four years ago, right now the Iraqis are better off than they have been in decades.

    Do you think Iraq is better off now than it was before? No doubt

    Do you think it was worth the cost in money as well as human life? Like the last one no doubt, in terms of wars this was a relatively light one. Were mistakes made? Yes. But right now Iraq is a thriving democracy in the Middle East, instead of in a nuclear arms race with Iran that kills any and all dissidents.

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    Default Re: Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    Peace is always better than War unless the cause is righteous. We had no business in Iraq, and I'm glad we are finally giving up.

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    Default Re: Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    This war/country rebuild should have ended a long time ago...

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    At 7:38 AM Iraqi Time, 2:38 AM CST the last convoy of troops passed the Kuwaiti-Iraqi Border.

    The War is now Over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Lutz View Post

    Do you think Iraq is better off now than it was before? No doubt
    Really? As bad as Saddam and his government was, at least people could walk down to the market without being blown up by an IED.

    The war made life vastly worse for the Iraqi people. I would rather have a stable dictatorship than a feeble "democracy" with the general anarchy and sectarian violence Iraq now enjoys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akichan View Post
    Really? As bad as Saddam and his government was, at least people could walk down to the market without being blown up by an IED.
    Yeah all they had to worry about was being picked up by one of Saddam's son's rape or execution squads. Or dying of hunger because of the sanctions. Or disappearing all together in one of the mass graves that still litter the Iraqi desert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akichan View Post
    The war made life vastly worse for the Iraqi people. I would rather have a stable dictatorship than a feeble "democracy" with the general anarchy and sectarian violence Iraq now enjoys.
    For a time yes it made it worse, but its hard to argue that the Iraqi people are worse off now, not only with the end of the terror attacks, but with the end of a dictatorship that gave their country absolutely no future. And lets not forget that not only was Saddam a genocidal mad man, but his son's were poised to take power, sons who would pick up women off the street, rape them, and then have them executed for adultery.

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    Default Re: Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    And so ends another episode of The US Drags on a War for Way Too Long than it Should've.

    I'm glad Saddam is out of the picture, but I mean really, we captured him years ago. Only now the war is ending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Lutz View Post
    But right now Iraq is a thriving democracy in the Middle East, instead of in a nuclear arms race with Iran that kills any and all dissidents.
    Thriving? Um, maybe that should be rethought. Minus oil production the lack of development in other sectors has resulted in 18%–30% unemployed and a depressed per capita GDP of $4,000 in Iraq, and even with the oil revenue Iraq still generates about half the electricity that customers demand, leading to protests during the hotter summer months. That doesn't really sound like 'thriving' to me.

    Even so we should stop argueing. This forum isn't the place for that and if you wish to debate something do it instead in Nicoleta's Campaign Bus if you have access to it.
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    Default Re: Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    At least this war of choice is over.

    That's all I have to say.

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    Now we must focus on getting our economy back on track.

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    Default Re: Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    Suicide bombings will decline, the iraqi people will die less frequently in reckless gunfire, for now. Iraq is still an unstable mess of a country, fixing it was a lost cause, so "comes to an end" is a bit odd to claim. Unless the U.S. won't react at all to anything that follows.

    But enjoy the fabricated happy end while it lasts!

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    Default Re: Conflict in Iraq Officially Comes to an End

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletproof Scales View Post
    Suicide bombings will decline, the iraqi people will die less frequently in reckless gunfire, for now. Iraq is still an unstable mess of a country, fixing it was a lost cause, so "comes to an end" is a bit odd to claim. Unless the U.S. won't react at all to anything that follows.

    But enjoy the fabricated happy end while it lasts!
    Funny, as the violence seems to have picked up since the U.S. left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eredar Warlock View Post
    Well it looks like the "thriving democracy" that the United States has built in the middle east will be put to the test, doesn't it.
    That's nice.

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