Thread: Warrior Cats Mafia [ENDGAME - The Dark Forest and AlaskaPigeon wins!] [8.15.12]

Originally Posted by Dark Victini

@VeloJello; i'm surprised i haven't been lynched too. in fact, i'm surprised that any of us newbies I've figured out haven't been lynched. sans Jolty Febe :P

Originally Posted by VeloJello

Like I said, I'm extremely new at this; frankly I'm a little surprised I haven't managed to get myself killed/lynched as yet.

Originally Posted by Syxx

Edit 2: This is my first mafia game. Expect poor decisions. You have been warned.

Derp, well it's only been one night, where no one died and one voting phase where most people bandwagonned which more or less usually happens. There hasn't been much of an opportunity to die.

If you've died by this point, it was really all up to chance. (but most of the subsequent turns still hinge on that 'chance', just less so if you have a good play of roles). Don't worry you'll all get equal chances to stay in the game.

And don't feel bad about being new, the more the merrier! I don't think there's any wrong way to play mafia, new or old.

Personally I had no clue what I was doing my first game but the discussion with Hellion and the eventual strategizing around it was fun so I just kept at it. I pretty much formed all my experience from that moment and used it in every other game.

Originally Posted by VeloJello

Speaking of staying out of the spotlight, my apologies for being inactive. This is my first forum mafia game, so I'm trying to lay low and observe. Kindly refrain from mistaking that as mafia-ness!

At least you're being honest about it, and in these games honesty goes a long way, but brutal honesty can also make for excellent cover.

I've seen games where people can hide in plain sight, say they're mafia, and yet people decide against it, think they're joking, and just live and let live.


AS for voting, I'm thinking of pinning my sights on @Fresa;. I haven't been around for a while, but I do remember your playing style. Maybe it's changed, though as an innocent you were a bit more up front and a bit more of a goofball... well you're a lovable goofball as mafia too but you were still more active when you were working on the town side.

However if I vote I think I'm going to end up tying the lynch.

But I think I don't mind doing that right now, Dark Victini seems pretty interested in just simply playing with a 'I don't care to win or lose' attitude which is evidence of playing for the town usually and seeing as he is interested in continued learning of the game, I could see him as a valuable player down the line, so I don't mind stepping in for this.

Vote: @Fresa;

Finding out and counting on who's innocent is just as important as finding out who's mafia. ;3

Originally Posted by Rayne*

I've seen games where people can hide in plain sight, say they're mafia, and yet people decide against it, think they're joking, and just live and let live.

I call those "Master Mew's" as that was the style he did the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Mafia. Go check the game if you want to see. And he wasn't even mafia :P

It's a pretty fun strategy, especially if you're confident about it. I've been known to do it myself on occasion.

1. @Gotpika
2. @GengarWithSunglasses
3. @VeloJello
4. @Dark Victini
5. @Soulmaster
6. @Neonsands
7. @Ryuutakeshi
8. @GliscorMan
9. @Syxx
10. @Tris79
11. @Alaskapigeon
12. @Feliciano
14. @Axle Helios
15. @Thunder Lord Z
16. @Neon Borealis
17. @Fresa
18. @Scarlet Enchantress
19. @Rayne*

The cats gathered in the harsh morning light, still in shock of the previous night's events. The tension continued to rise, but overall a decision was not made.

No one was lynched.

It is now Night 2. This phase will end @ 7 PM EST on August 2nd.

Originally Posted by Rayne*

AS for voting, I'm thinking of pinning my sights on @Fresa;. I haven't been around for a while, but I do remember your playing style. Maybe it's changed, though as an innocent you were a bit more up front and a bit more of a goofball... well you're a lovable goofball as mafia too but you were still more active when you were working on the town side.

However if I vote I think I'm going to end up tying the lynch.

But I think I don't mind doing that right now, Dark Victini seems pretty interested in just simply playing with a 'I don't care to win or lose' attitude which is evidence of playing for the town usually and seeing as he is interested in continued learning of the game, I could see him as a valuable player down the line, so I don't mind stepping in for this.

Vote: @Fresa;

Finding out and counting on who's innocent is just as important as finding out who's mafia. ;3

Well hello there Mr. Rayne! It sure has been a while since we last played a game together, rest assured; my play-style has changed quite a bit. For starters, I used to be really adamant regardless of what role I had, this is no longer the case. Not saying I have the most important role in the game or anything.

There's also the theme factor, I'm usually more active if I know at least the characters; I'm actually still trying to figure out what Warrior Cats actually is. /sorry!

I know you're quite the sweet-talker so I'm not going to defend myself more than what is actually needed; I know you can use anything against me. However, I think that if you're a townie you should at least try to defend yourself as the discussion it creates can be used to find a slip on a mafia member, so I see all the "not defending myself" anti-town at best. I know she's new and all, but she only has one vote against her, not that much pressure to give up :/. And did you just say she could be more valuable than me?

Okay, I'm sorry for not responding to everything earlier. Personal problems. Anyway, I'll tackle the first question: I voted for DV because... even after the Day 1 ruckus fracas, I thought it was good to—be proactive, considering voting is the main way to get information. I'm pretty certain I'm actually too "proactive" because of how often this gets me in trouble.

@Ryuu again; yes, you were very forward in wanting Jolty to get lynched, and that turned out to be a mistake. However, I'm not sure I'm taking the, "but I wrote a lot and posted a lot!" excuse. You're a very experienced player, you know that lying low is one of the worst things to do if you were mafia. In most of the games I've played with in which you were a mafioso, you were rather outspoken (as you are now).

Posting more stuff later.

Originally Posted by Thunder Lord Z

Okay, I'm sorry for not responding to everything earlier. Personal problems. Anyway, I'll tackle the first question: I voted for DV because... even after the Day 1 ruckus fracas, I thought it was good to—be proactive, considering voting is the main way to get information. I'm pretty certain I'm actually too "proactive" because of how often this gets me in trouble.

@Ryuu again; yes, you were very forward in wanting Jolty to get lynched, and that turned out to be a mistake. However, I'm not sure I'm taking the, "but I wrote a lot and posted a lot!" excuse. You're a very experienced player, you know that lying low is one of the worst things to do if you were mafia. In most of the games I've played with in which you were a mafioso, you were rather outspoken (as you are now).

Posting more stuff later.

Wow. Way to totally misunderstand what I was saying.

I wasn't defending myself based on " I wrote a lot and posted a lot!"" I'm defending myself based on the fact I've EXPLAINED myself a lot.

And... um... laying no is NOT one of the worst things a mafioso can do.

Z, I'll remind you I was gone for about 9 months. In that time I reassessed and fine-tuned my approach. And with the loss of some of the more active, forward people in mafia, I've decided to try that approach. I rather like it, actually.

Your explanation isn't making much sense. And the fact that you are accusing me of being mafia, but not voting me makes me wonder. Why are you pointing fingers at me, but refusing to follow through? Even during the day phase, you voted Dark Victini, who so far has only expressed surprise that he hasn't yet been brutally murdered.

Originally Posted by Ryuutakeshi

Originally Posted by Thunder Lord Z

Okay, I'm sorry for not responding to everything earlier. Personal problems. Anyway, I'll tackle the first question: I voted for DV because... even after the Day 1 ruckus fracas, I thought it was good to—be proactive, considering voting is the main way to get information. I'm pretty certain I'm actually too "proactive" because of how often this gets me in trouble.

@Ryuu again; yes, you were very forward in wanting Jolty to get lynched, and that turned out to be a mistake. However, I'm not sure I'm taking the, "but I wrote a lot and posted a lot!" excuse. You're a very experienced player, you know that lying low is one of the worst things to do if you were mafia. In most of the games I've played with in which you were a mafioso, you were rather outspoken (as you are now).

Posting more stuff later.

Wow. Way to totally misunderstand what I was saying.

I wasn't defending myself based on " I wrote a lot and posted a lot!"" I'm defending myself based on the fact I've EXPLAINED myself a lot.

And... um... laying no is NOT one of the worst things a mafioso can do.

Z, I'll remind you I was gone for about 9 months. In that time I reassessed and fine-tuned my approach. And with the loss of some of the more active, forward people in mafia, I've decided to try that approach. I rather like it, actually.

Your explanation isn't making much sense. And the fact that you are accusing me of being mafia, but not voting me makes me wonder. Why are you pointing fingers at me, but refusing to follow through? Even during the day phase, you voted Dark Victini, who so far has only expressed surprise that he hasn't yet been brutally murdered.

Well. I promised not to have to fish myself out of one of these again. Live and learn, I guess. And since I wrote that post in a hurry...

Time to pick apart this post!

"My defense was not 'I wrote and posted a lot'. It was that I explained myself a lot"—Yes, but by explaining you were proving that you had the guts to do so. You were drawing attention to yourself, and one of the fundamentals of your argument was that you did so.

"Laying low is not one of the worst things a mafioso could do"—Don't any of you guys understand hyperbole? (I have a feeling this part will get the most vicious reaction)

"'I'll remind you I was gone for 9 months. In that time I reassessed and fine-tuned my approach. And with the loss of some of the more active, forward people in mafia, I've decided to try that approach. I rather like it, actually"—And that's great (and also great you told me, because I was gone for most/all of that time). But that doesn't give you a "get out of accusations free pass" (waiiit, have you told me this before? I don't quite remember and I'm not going to look for it, but I'm getting some weird deja vu for some reason...).

"And the fact that you are accusing me of being mafia, but not voting me makes me wonder. Why are you pointing fingers at me, but refusing to follow through?"—It was honestly just a spur-of the-moment benefit-of-the-doubt thing, due to all your posts upon Jolty's death and the fact that I had led inadvertent lynches for townies countless times. I know this will hurt my street cred more than you can imagine (everyone in mafia lies through their teeth! Impulse votes are extraordinarily dumb!), but that's the truth for you. I repeatedly considered changing my vote, but I never got the chance due to not being at the computer.

"Even during the day phase, you voted Dark Victini, who so far has only expressed surprise that he hasn't yet been brutally murdered"—I'm honestly surprised too, since I was the only person who voted. Maybe there is a protector role who is keeping him alive? That would be interesting.

Well, I tried my best... I know this is a mess. Just sift through it.

Originally Posted by Thunder Lord Z

"My defense was not 'I wrote and posted a lot'. It was that I explained myself a lot"—Yes, but by explaining you were proving that you had the guts to do so. You were drawing attention to yourself, and one of the fundamentals of your argument was that you did so.

Yeah, and your point is?

"Laying low is not one of the worst things a mafioso could do"—Don't any of you guys understand hyperbole? (I have a feeling this part will get the most vicious reaction)

I didn't see that as hyperbole.

"'I'll remind you I was gone for 9 months. In that time I reassessed and fine-tuned my approach. And with the loss of some of the more active, forward people in mafia, I've decided to try that approach. I rather like it, actually"—And that's great (and also great you told me, because I was gone for most/all of that time). But that doesn't give you a "get out of accusations free pass" (waiiit, have you told me this before? I don't quite remember and I'm not going to look for it, but I'm getting some weird deja vu for some reason...).

XD Maybe. I don't remember. And I wasn't TRYING to get out of this accusations scott free. I'm trying to defend myself.

"And the fact that you are accusing me of being mafia, but not voting me makes me wonder. Why are you pointing fingers at me, but refusing to follow through?"—It was honestly just a spur-of the-moment benefit-of-the-doubt thing, due to all your posts upon Jolty's death and the fact that I had led inadvertent lynches for townies countless times. I know this will hurt my street cred more than you can imagine (everyone in mafia lies through their teeth! Impulse votes are extraordinarily dumb!), but that's the truth for you. I repeatedly considered changing my vote, but I never got the chance due to not being at the computer.

Fair enough

"Even during the day phase, you voted Dark Victini, who so far has only expressed surprise that he hasn't yet been brutally murdered"—I'm honestly surprised too, since I was the only person who voted. Maybe there is a protector role who is keeping him alive? That would be interesting.

What protector? The votes were tied. Unless you are hinting something,

Originally Posted by Thunder Lord Z

I'm honestly surprised too, since I was the only person who voted. Maybe there is a protector role who is keeping him alive? That would be interesting.

Um...Rayne tied up the votes near the end of the phase. It wasn't a role, just someone else voting.

Originally Posted by Feliciano

Originally Posted by Thunder Lord Z

I'm honestly surprised too, since I was the only person who voted. Maybe there is a protector role who is keeping him alive? That would be interesting.

Um...Rayne tied up the votes near the end of the phase. It wasn't a role, just someone else voting.

Wait... no... I don't see it... oh, there it is.

Bugger. I need to skim better.

Again.

LURK MOAR

Man, we still have had only one death? Maybe things will get real tonight. Hopefully I remember to watch this thread. T.T

Originally Posted by VeloJello

Man, we still have had only one death? Maybe things will get real tonight. Hopefully I remember to watch this thread. T.T

So, what do you think we should have done? Was there a particular person you found suspicious who we should have gone for?

What do you think of everything so far?

Originally Posted by Neonsands

Originally Posted by VeloJello

Man, we still have had only one death? Maybe things will get real tonight. Hopefully I remember to watch this thread. T.T

So, what do you think we should have done? Was there a particular person you found suspicious who we should have gone for?

What do you think of everything so far?

I'm not wishing for death - except perhaps the lucky lynch of a mafia member. But I don't know this game well enough to have developed any suspicions.

I think that this is a very interesting game, and hopefully I don't muck up. ^^'

Now, why are you so anxious for a death?