Thread: War Room Mafia BYOB - Live and Learn - NEW AGE WINS - ratings are up

@Belarus.; if you're too afraid to claim in public, why don't you claim to another person who you find trustworthy?

It's been done. I've claimed to three people; the cop, Lith, and another user who I don't think I really need to reveal atm.

Originally Posted by Croag

I'm wondering why the cop contacted you two specifically? Is that again another thing based somewhat on friendship?

Nope, definitely not on friendship, I can tell you that. Like Lith, I barely know her.

Originally Posted by FinalArcadia

In addition to what has already been said, I have another reason why I suspect you, as it is something that really confused me. And unless your eventual answer convinces me, I think this is the best course of action.

Eventual answer has been sent. :P

I don't quiet buy the fact that it's because of her restriction to only be in one game, she played in skyward sword mafia under the same restriction and wasn't like that at all.

In Skyward Sword, the restriction wasn't really in effect. Actually, I had asked Feralize to always protect BD over me; I half-wanted to die in that so I could be sure I could play in this one. That or have the game be finished, which is why I wanted the roleclaims so bad.

So that's hardly relevant.

Anyway!

Really, guys.

I won't claim in public, but I will say my role is pretty important to the town, and easily provable. ._. Not something like doctor, but you'd like to keep me around; that, and the cop check. The cop's contacted me, not just through Lith. So, considering that, I'd say the cop trusts me and believes my claim is good enough to not be a godfather's claim; she's revealed her identity to me, after all. :/

UNVOTE: Belarus.

The "eventual answer" is enough for now. I haven't completely cleared you (in my eyes anyway), but I'd rather be safe than sorry for the moment.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Vote: Belarus.
Trying so hard to protect Soulmaster from what was clearly a random vote seems suspicious, no?

Day 1 vote. Whatever. ^^;

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Originally Posted by Belarus.

I don't understand what you mean. I've been one of the most active players in almost every mafia I'm in, and I've only been lynched as a townie once. v.v;

Sounds like the Reverse Gambler's fallacy to me.

No comments.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Originally Posted by Central African Republic*

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Originally Posted by Belarus.

I don't understand what you mean. I've been one of the most active players in almost every mafia I'm in, and I've only been lynched as a townie once. v.v;

Sounds like the Reverse Gambler's fallacy to me.

No, I don't think that's the case (although as an A-Level Maths student where stats form a chunk of the subject, that article was quite interesting :3). Belarus. isn't saying "I've been townie in loads of games, so I'm most likely to still be town", but more "In the games I've been town, I've been active and not-lynched."

Oh, fair enough. Going back it seems I misread her post.

Now, this would be good for active lurking. Saying something in response to my post--whoops! He misread it!

Oh, well, he tried to add to the conversation, right?

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Originally Posted by Axle Helios

I agree, Night 0 kills don't make all that much sense to me.

Has nothing to do with the game.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Wouldn't it be great if later on we find out this rainbow text thing was a role's effect? Although maybe it'd be best if the yellow were to be skipped over, as that's pretty illegible.

Relevant to the game, not bringing anything to the table.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Plus, let's be honest, we're not gonna convince everyone to make a spreadsheet whether or not it's the best method.

Defending my vote tallies, not bringing anything new.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

She did say there was more reason than just because she and Lithuania are friends. There may very well be good reasoning; we shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions.

Neutrality. Good for when I flip town.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Yeah, quite a few people were berating her for claiming to what could be a mafioso.

Nothing new, repeat of something I said before.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Is this conversation really relevant?

On my Night 0 alliances, trying to change the subject since it didn't help much in clearing me or putting suspicion on me. While a mafia would love pointless talk that leads nowhere, they'd also love for the debate to go in a direction that brought more suspicion on me. Which, knowing me, is very possible.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Seriously guys, the mafia are probably well pleased with our bickering over Lithuania and Belarus' alliance, rather than actually putting any scrutiny on them. Unless Belarus and Lithuania are mafia. If they are, go right ahead. :P

Originally Posted by Phoenicks

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Yeah, quite a few people were berating her for claiming to what could be a mafioso.

Mea culpa; I completely misread your post to have some sarcastic connotations that went something like "they're both mafia". Complete misunderstanding on my part. My apologies. ^^

No worries. I probably should've worded it better.

Same as above.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Originally Posted by Feralize

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

Seriously guys, the mafia are probably well pleased with our bickering over Lithuania and Belarus' alliance, rather than actually putting any scrutiny on them. Unless Belarus and Lithuania are mafia. If they are, go right ahead. :P

And how are we supposed to know at this point?

There's no way to tell. Hence the :P.

Not bringing anything new, though Feralize did ask him to explain.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

The mafia should win half the time in all games. :P

Nothing new, though could be seen as support for the mafia if you look at it the right way.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

He didn't know for sure. He only said there was no logic behind lynching Joltik.

Not adding anything new, rephrasing what someone else said.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

I'm with Soulmaster on this one. I haven't seen anything particularly incriminating.
​Vote: No Lynch

Mijz was an active player Day 1--it would make sense for Greece to check Mijz. So, by voting no lynch, he would be avoiding the bomb. While that doesn't explain why Greece would vote for him, maybe she thought the odds would be in her favor, while Axle was playing it safe.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

So umm, who said Mijz wasn't mafia. This motherforker.
Now fair point to Ryuu that another no lynch would probably be quite detrimental... And it did kind of work out pretty well that he was lynched... Okay, maybe I should listen to Ryuutakeshi more.

Sounding sure Mijz wasn't mafia, which he would know if he were mafia.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

I'm gonna hold off on voting, as Belarus' actions seem more naïve than scummy to me. But I will agree that she seems the biggest target at the moment.
@Lithuania; As far as I know, it's for claiming to you, and for repeatedly trying too hard not to look scummy.

Trying to act neutral, and like before, which will be good for him when I most likely am lynched flip town.

VOTE: @Axle Helios;

Tl;dr:

Axle Helios has been active lurking nearly the entire game, contributing nothing important or trying to lead whatsoever. That, and however shaky they are, there are some small things that point to him being mafia, such as him nearly always posting neutrally.

I buy that.

Vote: Axle Helios

That post must have taken forever.

Around 15 minutes. XD

Belarus.: VI (Exor, Pichuboy, Destiny Queen, Buoy, Feralize, Hawkeye)
Axle Helios: II (Belarus., Lithuania)
Bernie: I (Phoenicks)

Well damn, I knew I wasn't giving this game my full attention, but I really haven't been doing well. You're entirely right that I'm posting kind of uselessly to stop from looking like I'm lurking (and partly because I just like the sound of my own voice [look of my own type?]).
But seriously, you're criticising me for defending you? If you are town, as you claim, then punishing those who protect you is antitown, and you should be gotten rid of. If it's the situation I'm beginning to find more likely, that you're making a mad dash to vote out somebody, because you're a mafiosa who doesn't want to be lynched, then you equally should be lynched. Either way,
Vote: Belarus.
FoS: Lithuania

Active lurking is worse than just lurking.

How am I criticizing you for defending me? You've been neutral for the most part in your posts, and honestly, your 'defense' of me wasn't really a defense at all, considering right after it you said I was still deserving of being lynched. ._. It's barely anything.

I am not 'punishing' those who defend me. Flonne, I don't even know where you got that from; your defense of me, again, wasn't even a defense. It was nothing.

o_o

Mmm, no. I think most people know I'd be way too damn paranoid to place pressure on someone if I were mafia, especially about to be lynched. Even then, a defense on its own, in my experience, is nothing. To actually get the votes off you, you need to have someone more worthy of votes; because, otherwise, why should they stop the lynch on you? You're not offering anyone better; and Flonne knows my defense usually doesn't cut it, so I need to go the extra mile to avoid being lynched, by offering someone else who has a likely chance of being mafia.

Originally Posted by Axle Helios

FoS: Lithuania

May I ask why you FoS'd me? Did you do it because Hawkeye did?

While I still don't trust Flonne at all. I'm willing to listen to what she has to say. So I tentatively Unvote: Belarus., I'll Keep a FoS on her until she proves 100% that she's town. FoS: Belarus. And my FoS on Lithuania is still there.

So @Phoenicks; will take the burden of a mislynch on fully on his shoulders, alright, I'll bite. Vote: Bernie So yeah, I looked through Bernie's posts also. Phoenicks was right, he only voted on full established bandwagons, and has done nothing to further the game. That's reason enough for me, for now.

His username is Phoenicks.

^^;

Belarus.: VI (Exor, Pichuboy, Destiny Queen, Buoy, Feralize, Axle Helios)
Axle Helios: II (Belarus., Lithuania)
Bernie: II (Phoenicks, Hawkeye)

/must keep this updated at all times

._. Crap. Sorry to the person I accidentally mentioned, if you are still active. So sorry. ^^;

I feel stupid.

Unvote: Axle Helios

Vote: Bernie

Phoenicks has some pretty good points.

I suppose Axle will be there tomorrow...

:/

...

v.v

UNVOTE: Axle Helios

VOTE: Bernie

Bernie: VI (Phoenicks, Hawkeye, Lithuania, Belarus., Paperhorse, Feralize)
Belarus.: V (Exor, Pichuboy, Destiny Queen, Buoy, Axle Helios)

Vote:Bernie

I'm willing to believe in a cop check.

It's a huge risk to take to shoulder the blame for a lynch; It isn't to be made lightly, thus I'll put my faith in it. And a possible cop check on Belarus makes me a little doubtful.

Unvote: Belarus.
Vote: Bernie