Thread: Star Trek (2009) Mafia - ENDGAME, Federation won [7/23/12]

Originally Posted by DrumBeats

You could be a mafia bomb : P

...I know that...?

My point, again, is that I wouldn't be so obvious. I'm fairly bad at being mafia, but I at least know how to survive past Day 1. What I'm doing is hardly how a mafia would act, putting themselves so out in the open.

Originally Posted by DrumBeats

You could be a mafia bomb : P

That doesn't seem to happen often and not to mention I don't think Belarus. would claim that knowing it would make her seem suspicious.

Also, I dont see any logic behind this Hitomi bandwagon. She's getting voted for voting for someone suspicious, and calling out potetial mafia buddying. She seems protown to me.

She's going off a tiny bit of evidence and making it look much larger. If you ask me, that's pretty scummy.

Originally Posted by DrumBeats

Also, I dont see any logic behind this Hitomi bandwagon. She's getting voted for voting for someone suspicious, and calling out potetial mafia buddying. She seems protown to me.

Did you read any of Belarus., Russia., HCL's, and my posts? If you did, you would've seen our evidence.

I find it somewhat funny that most of the most-liked posts are Russia.'s.

Anyway, it's what Russia. says. I explained myself to her, defended myself, others have defended me, and she won't listen. v.v

Originally Posted by Hitomi

This is Star Trek, which has nothing to do with Hetalia, so can we kindly discuss it and not Hetalia.

Still don't want her to be lynched, though. v.v

Is this due to meta reasons or that she's your scumbuddy?

[QUOTE=Hitomi;4183812]I am pretty sure that being friends does not matter when playing mafia. We all kill each other and have a good laugh later.

So FoS Belarus and Russia. Either you're not playing the game right by making alliances every time, you're masons, or you're scumbuddies. Or two of the three.

I can promise you I don't make alliances with people I don't trust, especially a few hours into the first phase.

Originally Posted by Hitomi

Killing scum > friendship

That's the way of mafia, and that's why I don't trust you.

Originally Posted by Russia.

What the heck? Just because she defended me means that I'm suspicious too?

I do find it strange that she defends me every time we play. It's as if she knows I'm gonna fall for it when she's mafia, and I'm not. Little does she know; I actually think before I make alliances with other players.

Also, I VOTED for her. Do you really think I wouldn't if I wasn't willing to lynch her? :P

Originally Posted by Hitomi

Originally Posted by Russia.

Also, I VOTED for her. Do you really think I wouldn't if I wasn't willing to lynch her? :P

Scumbuddies very often vote for their scumbuddies on day one. That way, they can say "but I voted for him/her!" later when that person flips mafia.

Originally Posted by Belarus.

I wouldn't make it so damn obvious if we were scumbuddies. I may be horrid at being mafia, but I'm not that stupid. Especially when it would most likely cause both of our deaths.

I understand your reasoning, but...no. I'm innocent. Russia. could be mafia, for all I know, but I'm innocent.

@DrumBeats Here's where it started with Hitomi suspecting Belarus.. It didn't really seem like much evidence to me, since that's just how Belarus. is. Not to mention that I don't think any mafia would be so stupid as to do something like this right off the bat. I'm sure it was a joke anyway, like many things on Day 1.

Originally Posted by Belarus.

Yeah, and I would sacrifice myself to kill a townie by making myself so obvious. I claim crap like Restless Spirit and Oracle when I'm mafia and can't claim my real ability. Bomb is just stupid to claim when one's mafia. v.v


Lynch me, sure, but you'll probably just lose two townies. You might get lucky and have a mafia die, but honestly, the chances of that are very slim.

First part of that: I hate when people use the I wouldn't be so obvious excuse. Reverse psychology exists and mafia can frequently get away with it.

Second, if you suspect most of the people voting you, why do you think a townie will die?

Originally Posted by NfiNity

Unvote: Meron.
Vote: Hitomi.

The way you keep getting on Belarus. and Russia. makes me think you're mafia and are trying to early on catch very little evidence to start a bandwagon on either one. Like I said before, Belarus. said she was fine getting lynched if that somehow cleared Russia., making me think she's innocent for saying such a thing. I don't think a mafioso would bus her teammate like that.

You're doing the same exact thing with Hitomi, except with even less evidence. A bomb claim and buddying is suspicious and on Day 1 when there's not much else to go on, it's enough to make a vote.

Originally Posted by HilbertCressLover

Originally Posted by The Puppetmaster

Originally Posted by HilbertCressLover

I was thinking of doing this before. I'm also suspicious of The Puppetmaster, but Hitomi even more so.

For trying to get info? Wow.

That could be anyone's excuse. The way you and Hitomi are both so dead set on Russia. and Belarus., even though they haven't done much to be suspicious of, but just because they're mostly using meta as examples to defend themselves, is suspicious to me. Belarus even claimed and said she'd be fine getting out to clear Russia.. Even though the majority would not let friendships be the way to make alliances, that doesn't mean Belarus. and Russia. can't think differently about it.

Their reasoning is:
1) Belarus defending Russia day 1 with no reason.
2) Belarus's bomb claim.
3) Meta defenses

Your reasoning:
1) Questioning/voting Russia and Belarus

Just saying, they have more. And while they can think differently, just remember votes should be based on the game, not friendships or meta.

Originally Posted by NfiNity

Bomb is usually what a mafioso would claim, so I don't think she would openly do that probably knowing it would make her suspicious.

To be honest, day 1 is never a good time to find a lot of evidence since a lot never usually happens. The way everyone kinda "jumped" on her seems like a mafia type of thing to happen since then if she gets lynched, you could just say "Oh, we didn't have enough evidence and she seemed suspicious, so...".

Only 3 people voted Belarus. And technically on Fahrenheit and myself could even be considered as "jumping to it, yet you vote Hitomi? Plus after you voted Hitomi, three others jumped on, but that's not suspicious either?

Originally Posted by Hitomi

Originally Posted by HilbertCressLover

But the thing is, I don't even find Belarus. or Russia.'s behavior scummy, which is why I find you suspicious instead.

They're not suspicious therefore I am.

Bye logic, try not to let the door hit you on the way out.

Just because you don't find someone scummy, doesn't mean the people voting them are. Especially on Day 1.

Originally Posted by NfiNity

It's not that, I just think the way you're acting and trying to hard to find very little evidence on either is really suspicious. I wouldn't vote you if I didn't think the way you were acting was scummy.

You're doing the same thing to Hitomi.

Originally Posted by NfiNity

Originally Posted by DrumBeats

Also, I dont see any logic behind this Hitomi bandwagon. She's getting voted for voting for someone suspicious, and calling out potetial mafia buddying. She seems protown to me.

Did you read any of Belarus., Russia., HCL's, and my posts? If you did, you would've seen our evidence.

There's not much evidence to look at to be honest

Here's my response to the "evidence"

Originally Posted by Hitomi

This is Star Trek, which has nothing to do with Hetalia, so can we kindly discuss it and not Hetalia.

Still don't want her to be lynched, though. v.v

Is this due to meta reasons or that she's your scumbuddy?

Originally Posted by Hitomi

I am pretty sure that being friends does not matter when playing mafia. We all kill each other and have a good laugh later.

So FoS Belarus and Russia. Either you're not playing the game right by making alliances every time, you're masons, or you're scumbuddies. Or two of the three.

I can promise you I don't make alliances with people I don't trust, especially a few hours into the first phase.

Originally Posted by Hitomi

Killing scum > friendship

That's the way of mafia, and that's why I don't trust you.

Originally Posted by Russia.

What the heck? Just because she defended me means that I'm suspicious too?

I do find it strange that she defends me every time we play. It's as if she knows I'm gonna fall for it when she's mafia, and I'm not. Little does she know; I actually think before I make alliances with other players.

Also, I VOTED for her. Do you really think I wouldn't if I wasn't willing to lynch her? :P

Originally Posted by Hitomi

Originally Posted by Russia.

Also, I VOTED for her. Do you really think I wouldn't if I wasn't willing to lynch her? :P

Scumbuddies very often vote for their scumbuddies on day one. That way, they can say "but I voted for him/her!" later when that person flips mafia.

Originally Posted by Belarus.

I wouldn't make it so damn obvious if we were scumbuddies. I may be horrid at being mafia, but I'm not that stupid. Especially when it would most likely cause both of our deaths.

I understand your reasoning, but...no. I'm innocent. Russia. could be mafia, for all I know, but I'm innocent.

Originally Posted by DrumBeats

Originally Posted by Belarus.

Yeah, and I would sacrifice myself to kill a townie by making myself so obvious. I claim crap like Restless Spirit and Oracle when I'm mafia and can't claim my real ability. Bomb is just stupid to claim when one's mafia. v.v


Lynch me, sure, but you'll probably just lose two townies. You might get lucky and have a mafia die, but honestly, the chances of that are very slim.

First part of that: I hate when people use the I wouldn't be so obvious excuse. Reverse psychology exists and mafia can frequently get away with it.

Second, if you suspect most of the people voting you, why do you think a townie will die?

Originally Posted by NfiNity

Unvote: Meron.
Vote: Hitomi.

The way you keep getting on Belarus. and Russia. makes me think you're mafia and are trying to early on catch very little evidence to start a bandwagon on either one. Like I said before, Belarus. said she was fine getting lynched if that somehow cleared Russia., making me think she's innocent for saying such a thing. I don't think a mafioso would bus her teammate like that.

You're doing the same exact thing with Hitomi, except with even less evidence. A bomb claim and buddying is suspicious and on Day 1 when there's not much else to go on, it's enough to make a vote.

Originally Posted by HilbertCressLover

Originally Posted by The Puppetmaster

Originally Posted by HilbertCressLover

I was thinking of doing this before. I'm also suspicious of The Puppetmaster, but Hitomi even more so.

For trying to get info? Wow.

That could be anyone's excuse. The way you and Hitomi are both so dead set on Russia. and Belarus., even though they haven't done much to be suspicious of, but just because they're mostly using meta as examples to defend themselves, is suspicious to me. Belarus even claimed and said she'd be fine getting out to clear Russia.. Even though the majority would not let friendships be the way to make alliances, that doesn't mean Belarus. and Russia. can't think differently about it.

Their reasoning is:
1) Belarus defending Russia day 1 with no reason.
2) Belarus's bomb claim.
3) Meta defenses

Your reasoning:
1) Questioning/voting Russia and Belarus

Just saying, they have more. And while they can think differently, just remember votes should be based on the game, not friendships or meta.

Originally Posted by NfiNity

Bomb is usually what a mafioso would claim, so I don't think she would openly do that probably knowing it would make her suspicious.

To be honest, day 1 is never a good time to find a lot of evidence since a lot never usually happens. The way everyone kinda "jumped" on her seems like a mafia type of thing to happen since then if she gets lynched, you could just say "Oh, we didn't have enough evidence and she seemed suspicious, so...".

Only 3 people voted Belarus. And technically on Fahrenheit and myself could even be considered as "jumping to it, yet you vote Hitomi? Plus after you voted Hitomi, three others jumped on, but that's not suspicious either?

Originally Posted by Hitomi

Originally Posted by HilbertCressLover

But the thing is, I don't even find Belarus. or Russia.'s behavior scummy, which is why I find you suspicious instead.

They're not suspicious therefore I am.

Bye logic, try not to let the door hit you on the way out.

Just because you don't find someone scummy, doesn't mean the people voting them are. Especially on Day 1.

Originally Posted by NfiNity

It's not that, I just think the way you're acting and trying to hard to find very little evidence on either is really suspicious. I wouldn't vote you if I didn't think the way you were acting was scummy.

You're doing the same thing to Hitomi.

Originally Posted by NfiNity

Originally Posted by DrumBeats

Also, I dont see any logic behind this Hitomi bandwagon. She's getting voted for voting for someone suspicious, and calling out potetial mafia buddying. She seems protown to me.

Did you read any of Belarus., Russia., HCL's, and my posts? If you did, you would've seen our evidence.

There's not much evidence to look at to be honest

Here's my response to the "evidence"

I'm not sure you even know what you're looking at. All of the evidence is right there, Belarus. and Russia. started doing their "friendshipness" just because that's how they are, and then Hitomi automatically started thinking that was "mafia-like".

First part of that: I hate when people use the I wouldn't be so obvious excuse. Reverse psychology exists and mafia can frequently get away with it.

Second, if you suspect most of the people voting you, why do you think a townie will die?

I only really suspect Hitomi atm. 1/3 chance.

Odds aren't in my favor, da?

I find DrumBeats now a little suspicious since he randomly appeared here to defend Hitomi, which could indicate that he might be a mafioso trying to defend a fellow mafioso.

If Hitomi flips mafia, we know our next target. :)

Aside from that, I was envisioning that there was a bandwagon on me, not three people.

And I find you suspicious for randomly supporting Belarus. It works in both directions you know