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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Night 3 - Seaside Cycling Road - 12/08

    Wow. That was... a lot of analyzing.

    I can see what you mean for Atomic, I was thinking her posts did seem scummy.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Night 3 - Seaside Cycling Road - 12/08

    I was thinking Elysion as well, due to her voting Akuraito last phase, because she was going to die anyways.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Night 3 - Seaside Cycling Road - 12/08

    You know I find it kind of funny since:

    [1:36:56 AM] Matthew Allen(Master Mew): If we lynch Atomic, we lose the Lie Detector (if she really is) - but she says she used her one-shot already, so we would be losing a Vanilla while also proving her role-claim.
    [1:37:02 AM] Matthew Allen: If we lynch Akuraito...
    [1:37:06 AM] Matthew Allen: things get complicated.
    [1:37:11 AM] Matthew Allen: But possibly very informative.
    [1:37:21 AM] Lulu(yours truly): yep
    [1:37:44 AM] Matthew Allen: Lynching Atomic is the "safe" route, while lynching Akuraito is the high-risk-high-reward route, imo.
    [1:37:53 AM] Lulu: yeah, that's true
    [1:37:58 AM] Matthew Allen: It's up to you. :D
    [1:38:05 AM] Matthew Allen: Which of course means...
    [1:38:08 AM] Matthew Allen: I'll blame you. :P

    and

    [1:45:03 AM] Matthew Allen: Have you made your choice, yet? :P
    [1:45:10 AM] Lulu: ahhhhh
    [1:45:14 AM] Lulu: this is tough
    [1:45:20 AM] Lulu: where is everyone else anyways?
    [1:45:27 AM] Lulu: there's only some hours left
    [1:45:37 AM] Matthew Allen: Just assume that you control the lynch.
    [1:45:49 AM] Lulu: so you're not going to unvote?
    [1:46:01 AM] Lulu: either i cause a tie or Atomic dies?
    [1:46:02 AM] Lulu: >.<
    [1:46:08 AM] Lulu: that sucks either way
    [1:46:11 AM] Matthew Allen: No, if you want Akuraito lynched, I'll unvote.
    [1:46:31 AM] Lulu: um...ugh
    [1:46:32 AM] Lulu: =.=
    [1:46:39 AM] Matthew Allen: See?
    [1:46:42 AM] Matthew Allen: They all suck.
    [1:46:45 AM] Matthew Allen: :P
    [1:46:48 AM] Lulu: lol
    [1:47:53 AM] Lulu: i'll unvote Atomic
    [1:48:05 AM] Lulu: but if it does turn out that she's lie detector
    [1:48:24 AM] Matthew Allen: You can't unvote Atomic, you voted for Akuraito. :P
    [1:48:31 AM] Lulu: OH I MEANT
    [1:48:35 AM] Lulu: i'll unvote Akuraito XD

    And I'm also wondering how Atomic didn't die. ^^; Atomic's apparently the lie detector, but she did supposedly use up her lie detect on Akuraito, so she's practically vanilla if she is town. Hm...

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Night 3 - Seaside Cycling Road - 12/08

    I say going for Atomic next phase is a good bet.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Night 3 - Seaside Cycling Road - 12/08

    Could someone explain? I'm not understanding at all why I seem scummy.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Night 3 - Seaside Cycling Road - 12/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic View Post
    Could someone explain? I'm not understanding at all why I seem scummy.
    If this wasn't, "explaining," then I don't know what is:

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Mew View Post


    Derp... Me: "Ok, now I have pretty solid reads on eight of the nine remaining players... who am I missing? ... ... ... ... ... ... ... OH! Right, ME!" :p

    Okay, now, to preface this: Now that we know Akuraito was the 1x Lynchproof Godfather (@Host: Y U TROLL US?), we can begin to form the Scum-Narrative - and, thankfully, such an odd role actually makes the most opportune Scum-Narrative fairly obvious, when you think about it:

    Day 1 - They would want to lynch Akuraito, since she'll survive, thus proving she's at least 1x Lynchproof - this ups her Town-cred (Lynchproof is more commonly Town-aligned or Independent).

    Night 1 - With Akuraito now proven Lynchproof, the next step is to convince the Cop to check her - they know she'll come up Town, so this is a Win/Win for Scum. Lynchproof Godfather is sure to be viewed with skepticism by the Town, so this virtually clears Akuraito while simultaneously wasting a Copcheck on the Godfather.

    Day 2 - They'll want to wait and see if the Cop checked Akuraito - then, optimally, kill the Cop. More importantly, now that they've set Akuraito up for the rest of the game, they do not want Akuraito lynched.

    Night 2 - Probably feeling pretty smug about now, they're home-free and just have to coast to endgame - surely at least Akuraito will live, being "clear" and all.

    Day 3 - Akuraito sent in the kill on FinalArcadia, so now the Scum-team knows that the "cleared" Godfather is going to die, anyway. Expect them to bus Akuraito to clear themselves, since they know she'll flip Scum anyway, and it will waste the Town's lynch on someone who was going to die at the end of the Phase anyway.

    Night 3 - Kill Master Mew. :p




    So that, if the Scum-team is competent, is probably what the plan was and how it evolved throughout the game. With that in mind, I've re-read the entire thread and based my Scum- and Town-reads on whose posts most closely followed that narrative, and who unwittingly opposed it.

    Stuntology: Town (Post #65 & #101)

    Soulmaster: Slight-Scum (Post #84), but I got a Town-read from our 12/7 Skype-Chat

    Buoy: Slight-Scum (Post #104) <- "Outs" Sputnik's softclaim

    Insanish Danish: Slight Scum (Post #105 & #109) <- Defends Akuraito when opportune in #105, then votes Sputnik after Elysion does in #109 - even though Buoy had outed Sputnik's softclaim

    Ryoga Kamishiro: Slight-Scum (Post #115) <- Pushed to reveal Sputnik's cop-claim before she died.

    Rio Kamishiro: Slight-Scum (Post #59), Slight-Town (Post #89), Town (Post #95), Slight-Scum (Post #116) <- #95 is the strongest read. Verdict: Probably Town.

    Elysion: Scum (Post #49, #108 & #150), Slight-Scum (Post #102 & #154)

    Atomic: Slight-Scum (Post #83 & #142), Scum (Post #149)




    Based on my analysis, I have concluded that the most probably Scum-team at this point is:



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    Default Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    I'll be updating a little early today as I have work to do.



    Volcanic ashes sprayed over the area near Mt. Chimney. Not the best place to take a walk, but many trainers near Route 113 gathered the soot in their Soot Sacks to trade for flutes. However, it was hard to see where one was going without goggles or any kind of eye protection.

    The ground wasn't the only place where it was hard to move around. Flying in the sky was more difficult as ashes were constantly falling and rising in the air.

    Even the most experienced trainer had trouble. She was flying over the volcano on her Skarmory for an urgent visit to Fallabor Town, where Scott was currently supervising a Battle Tent renovation.

    The soot were literally blinding her, and it was only when there was a massive explosion and a cry from her Skarmory that she realized she took the wrong path.

    Winona regretted for having chosen the most dangerous short-cut.







    A boy adjusted his goggles as he collected his share of soot. He spotted red flares and two 'objects' falling down to the ground.

    There was nothing he could do to save them. He was too far away.







    It is now DAY 4. YOU MAY VOTE.


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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    VOTE: Atomic.

    Seems like an obvious framing job that's attempting to disllusion us.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    I find Atomic scummy for the same reasons Master Mew explained, so yeah.

    Vote: Atomic
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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    Quote Originally Posted by Insanish Danish View Post
    I find Atomic scummy for the same reasons Master Mew explained, so yeah.

    Vote: Atomic
    I'd like to hear your own opinion on this, to be honest. Simply stating, "Master Mew said some things that I miraculously happen to agree with in order to help form a bandwagon" doesn't sound like fantastic reasoning to me. I don't know why you'd be bussing her if you were both mafia; unless she isn't mafia, in which case you're simply hoping to hit off a mislynch. Yeah, okay, it's WIFOM. Sue me. Not talking all that much for constructive purposes and trying to pass off a vote with somebody else's reasoning is sort of shady, imo.

    Anyway, I'm refraining from voting right now since the situation is really WIFOM-y. It's really hard to tell for me, and the thing is, I've found that, in a lot of these situations, the person who's being 'framed' is actually being framed -- I've never found anybody to try and be obvious for the sake of being hidden in these cases (as far as I can remember, anyway), if that makes sense.

    edit: Thinking this over, we'll probably get a better idea of some alignments if we do lynch Atomic, regardless of WIFOMness.

    Vote: Atomic.
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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    Vote: Atomic

    There seems to be enough evidence to make this worthwhile.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    Pretty much what the above have said. There is just too much not to do this.

    Vote: Atomic

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    May as well.

    Vote: Atomic

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    I want to believe you, but then there's this evidence piling against you, such as how during Night 2 you specifically stated you wanted Akuraito to be protected by some "back-up" doctor, then during Day 3, you tell me that Akuraito probably isn't town. You claim to me how you're a 1x lie detector on Day 3 and how you haven't used it yet, but then a few moments after, you tell me you have just used it on Akuraito on her last sentence which states that she's town and turned out to be a lie, but that could have been the perfect way to clear yourself, considering Akuraito turned out to have killed the delayed bomb.

    Vote: Atomic

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    On day 2 you seemed reluctant to vote for Akuraito, but when the votes shifted towards Sputnik, you were all for it.

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    Default Re: Pokemon RSE-Hoenn Mafia - Day 4 - Mt. Chimney - 12/09

    Yes, because Sputnik seemed scummier to me than Akuraito did.

    If I had found Akuraito scummier, I would have voted for her instead, and kept my vote on her.
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