Thread: Legendary Pokemon Mafia:ENDGAME Town and Master Mew win!:10/13/12

I wonder what else I could be talking about?! Oh, yes, that's right! Mafia tactics!

It's a possibility yes. I'm not saying it's definitive proof, I took into account the other mafia games, but considering people lynch eacother jokingly half the time, I think it warrants a vote. It doesn't matter how unlikely it is that the chat is in regaurds to this mafia, if there's a outside chance it could be, I'll go with it just in case.

Also, you voting Human could be a deflective vote to make me and anyone else believe that you're not in cahoots.

If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to feel silly, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Buoy

Vote: Human.

For what I mentioned yesterday: getting somebody lynched after it was made clear that another vote on someone who already had a vote would be the one on the chopping block, because of cRussian being voteless. I'm not really confident in Belarus' idea of cRussian being mafia just yet.

Whatever. I don't really care much about this game anyway. School is going to start tomorrow and I have to prepare and shit. Checking about this Mafia game to bother about, OH NO! LYNCHING A TOWN on the first day isn't really making me care that much. I could sub out, but I'd rather stay and see how this game will progress while giving any input or information that I'll bother to find. Meh. Keep the vote. I'm not going to bother to vote somebody to save my ass like I jokingly did last time.

Once again showing world-class sportsmanship. You should sub out if you don't care much, because all you're doing is holding the spot of someone who actually wants to play this game. As well as that, you were the only person responsible for that lynch yesterday -- I wouldn't mind so much if there were a whole host of people who had voted her off. You can check progress while being outside the game, too, you know. As well as that, if you don't really care about this game, are you really going to 'bother' to give input, or 'bother' to find information? Why should we keep someone in the game who is only going to participate in a positive way when they can be 'bothered'?

As well as that, if you have other things to be doing, why did you 'bother' to offer subbing in for Gotpika in SageGaga's game? Oh, and you weren't 'saving your ass' in the last day phase. There clearly a tie, so you could just have let it be without voting at all. What you did was pretty much OMGUS that ended up in a single-handed mislynch, which is really not okay.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by CrackFox

It's a possibility yes. I'm not saying it's definitive proof, I took into account the other mafia games, but considering people lynch eacother jokingly half the time, I think it warrants a vote. It doesn't matter how unlikely it is that the chat is in regaurds to this mafia, if there's a outside chance it could be, I'll go with it just in case.

Also, you voting Human could be a deflective vote to make me and anyone else believe that you're not in cahoots.

If I'm wrong, I'll be the first to feel silly, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.

If other people jumped into a fire, would you think that warrants you jumping into a fire? You're completely basing your vote on the off chance that I was actually talking to them because we were all mafia together. It does matter how unlikely it is, because chance is not something you should be basing a strategy on. I may as well just vote any old person and say 'I'll vote this person just in case they're mafia', without any other proof except that they're playing the game.

Also, yes, that's obviously my plan. I decided to vote Human with better reasoning than most at the current time because I'm afraid that people might take you at your word!

Originally Posted by Master Mew

Originally Posted by Midorikawa

Originally Posted by Master Mew

Vote: Fresa

What is your reason for this vote?

Just fishin'.

Vote: cRussian

@Master Mew; I can't counter anyone's vote. D:<

I swear to god, you guys will regret lynching me. If my vote counted, I would Vote: Human because he knew he was going to get someone lynched and even after I claimed voteless, he still voted for a townie as if he knew their alignment.

Please take me out of quote things when not directing speech at me. Quotes are scary when they're for mafias

Anyways here's a vote tally. Note that it says one vote on Human due to Rus having a useless vote

cRussian II-(Belarus., Master Mew)
Buoy I-(CrackFox)
Human I-(Buoy, cRussian)

Yeah... My useless vote... -_-

@Belarus.;

I'm trying to be helpful and scumhunt, but my role won't help me... You guys will be better off without me, but I don't think I'm worth voting for because voteless players are usually townies, and we have other suspicious players to be voting for.

You don't need to have a vote to scumhunt. Scumhunting is analyzing people's posts, although, yes, voting is a big part of that, it's not needed.

Usually, but not always. I was the JOAT in Ape Escape, as you know very well (:P), and I was mafia. Restless spirit in Hydra. Rolecop in Unova, the list goes on. Nearly ever role can be mafia; voteless isn't excluded from that, and athough I do realize that it's unlikely...

/shrug

While I do see how Human is suspicious for others, I'm not really inclined towards voting him for previously stated reasons. And with his attitude, for all we know, he's the fool.

Originally Posted by Buoy

Once again showing world-class sportsmanship. You should sub out if you don't care much, because all you're doing is holding the spot of someone who actually wants to play this game. As well as that, you were the only person responsible for that lynch yesterday

That's a lie. Gliscorman voted VeloJello as well. I just voted her because she voted me. I am trying to help the Town, but right now I don't have anything.

-- I wouldn't mind so much if there were a whole host of people who had voted her off. You can check progress while being outside the game, too, you know.

Being one of the two who lynched somebody doesn't raise the chance that I'm Mafia. Especially in the first day phase.

As well as that, if you don't really care about this game, are you really going to 'bother' to give input, or 'bother' to find information?

I said:

I don't really care much

I still care of course, just not that much. I'll try to help.

Why should we keep someone in the game who is only going to participate in a positive way when they can be 'bothered'?

I can be bothered if something interesting pops up. You said there's a chance that I'm Mafia and I told you I'm not really interested in this game thus far. This discussion has made be interested in this one.

As well as that, if you have other things to be doing, why did you 'bother' to offer subbing in for Gotpika in SageGaga's game?

I was seeing how the game was developing, took an interest into it and took the chance to sub in to play and have fun. This one wasn't being any fun or looking like it will be, so I've decided to not bother that much with it. Now you've opened my eyes on how much fun this game could be.

Oh, and you weren't 'saving your ass' in the last day phase. There clearly a tie, so you could just have let it be without voting at all. What you did was pretty much OMGUS that ended up in a single-handed mislynch, which is really not okay.

If Velojello bothered to vote somebody else to tie the votes to save her own ass, she would've, but she didn't. She made a joke by voting me, I made a joke back and voted her knowing it would be a tie.

With your post Buoy, I am now bothered enough to try to stay in the game.

VOTE: Buoy

:3

Originally Posted by Belarus.

While I do see how Human is suspicious for others, I'm not really inclined towards voting him for previously stated reasons. And with his attitude, for all we know, he's the fool.

I'm always the fool in Mafia games. The only times I'm not a fool is when my waifu<3 dies :3

Originally Posted by Belarus.

You don't need to have a vote to scumhunt. Scumhunting is analyzing people's posts, although, yes, voting is a big part of that, it's not needed.

Usually, but not always. I was the JOAT in Ape Escape, as you know very well (:P), and I was mafia. Restless spirit in Hydra. Rolecop in Unova, the list goes on. Nearly ever role can be mafia; voteless isn't excluded from that, and athough I do realize that it's unlikely...

/shrug

While I do see how Human is suspicious for others, I'm not really inclined towards voting him for previously stated reasons. And with his attitude, for all we know, he's the fool.

LOL. If you know it's unlikely, then why not unvote me--a townie--and vote someone who has been proven to have done scummier things. XD

You are getting pretty suspicious in my eyes, just so you know. You seem like you want to wipe me off this game, and seem to know that I'm town.

Because if we always waited for something certain, especially on Day 2, we'd be sitting ducks. I'm going off of something I believe is suspicion-worthy, and like I just said, while I understand Buoy's view on Human, I don't share it. As such, I'm not voting him.

/shrug

Yes, I do want to lead a lynch on someone whose actions I believe are suspicious. Doesn't everyone?

How have I been acting like I know your alignment?

I'm always the fool in Mafia games. The only times I'm not a fool is when my waifu<3 dies :3

/

Originally Posted by Belarus.

Because if we always waited for something certain, especially on Day 2, we'd be sitting ducks. I'm going off of something I believe is suspicion-worthy, and like I just said, while I understand Buoy's view on Human, I don't share it. As such, I'm not voting him.

/shrug

Yes, I do want to lead a lynch on someone whose actions I believe are suspicious. Doesn't everyone?

Yes, but it's hard to lead a lynch on someone who's role is proven to be practically useless. Everyone else sees the strong possibility of cRussian being town, why don't you? I just told you that being a voteless mafioso is unlikely. Why beat me down when I can't counter?

How have I been acting like I know your alignment?

You seem so dead set on lynching me, like there's no one else to eliminate. Did you even read the arguments, or are you saying "cRussian is definitely mafia. Voteless players = scum."?

Originally Posted by Human

That's a lie. Gliscorman voted VeloJello as well. I just voted her because she voted me. I am trying to help the Town, but right now I don't have anything.

Right, except you didn't leave the vote as it was. You voted VeloJello, and unbalanced it, which was why you were responsible for the lynch.

Being one of the two who lynched somebody doesn't raise the chance that I'm Mafia. Especially in the first day phase.

Yes, but being the only person responsible for her getting lynched does -- you knew (or should have known) that your vote would get her lynched. Lynching somebody just because they voted you is a bad, bad move.

I said:

I don't really care much

I still care of course, just not that much. I'll try to help.

sure ok

I can be bothered if something interesting pops up. You said there's a chance that I'm Mafia and I told you I'm not really interested in this game thus far. This discussion has made be interested in this one.

So you can only be bothered to participate if someone else stimulates into doing it? That's so helpful!

I was seeing how the game was developing, took an interest into it and took the chance to sub in to play and have fun. This one wasn't being any fun or looking like it will be, so I've decided to not bother that much with it. Now you've opened my eyes on how much fun this game could be.

I'm so glad. You shouldn't give up on a game by the second day phase just because it 'looks like it won't be fun'. You might just as well not sign up for any games if that's your attitude.

If Velojello bothered to vote somebody else to tie the votes to save her own ass, she would've, but she didn't. She made a joke by voting me, I made a joke back and voted her knowing it would be a tie.

Okay, so... VeloJello places a vote on you, someone else votes her in the meantime. Two votes, one of which is worthless (and this person confesses that their vote is worthless), are placed on another person. That means it's one for VeloJello against one for this other person. You vote for VeloJello simply because she voted you (which is a scummy move), and you voted her after these other votes were placed -- you weren't in any danger. I don't see how you could have thought it would be a tie if you'd read the thread properly. Placing a vote on someone if you haven't read the thread properly is dumb as well, so you can't really use that as an excuse, either.

Are you saying she was supposed to vote somebody else to save her own backside just because you took it upon yourself to lynch her for no reason, despite the possibility of her not being able to access the forums or whatever else?

With your post Buoy, I am now bothered enough to try to stay in the game.

VOTE: Buoy

:3

Hooray. Now, I'd like to hear a reason for that vote. Something that isn't 'because I know I'm town, so you voting me makes you mafia', or another 'you voted me, so I'm voting you for no reason', as there's no real excuse for baseless voting D2.

Originally Posted by cRussian

Everyone else sees the strong possibility of cRussian being town, why don't you? I just told you that being a voteless mafioso is unlikely.

Just because something's unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible.

You seem so dead set on lynching me, like there's no one else to eliminate. Did you even read the arguments, or are you saying "cRussian is definitely mafia. Voteless players = scum."?

Not going to get anywhere when scumhunting if you're distracted by everything else.

I wasn't really seeing much of a good defense, truthfully. You said that you claimed to avoid confusion, when there were plenty of other alternatives that wouldn't involve claiming to the entire thread; claiming to everyone would only really benefit a mafia member, and that's really the crux of my argument.

Originally Posted by Belarus.

Originally Posted by cRussian

Everyone else sees the strong possibility of cRussian being town, why don't you? I just told you that being a voteless mafioso is unlikely.

Just because something's unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible.

You seem so dead set on lynching me, like there's no one else to eliminate. Did you even read the arguments, or are you saying "cRussian is definitely mafia. Voteless players = scum."?

Not going to get anywhere when scumhunting if you're distracted by everything else.

I wasn't really seeing much of a good defense, truthfully. You said that you claimed to avoid confusion, when there were plenty of other alternatives that wouldn't involve claiming to the entire thread; claiming to everyone would only really benefit a mafia member, and that's really the crux of my argument.

It benefits a townie more than it does a mafia member. I claimed in thread to protect myself. Would a mafioso really kill a townie with such a useless role?

UNVOTE: BUOY

Whatever.

How? I stated quite a few reasons as to why it'd help a mafioso in my first post against you.

That implies they had a specific reason to kill you in the first place. Which, seeing as it was Day 1, I highly doubt.