"Let's not get sidetracked. At least we have the treestump confirmed. Mijzelffan is awfully quiet and Midorikawa was very quick to jump on m0ckingbird20 for what just struck me as forgetting the rules. Also, Mido chose Mij almost instantly. I've got my eyes on you two."
Did prevent a possible argument between me and Mido but she was really hasty to accuse Mido simply for choosing Mij really fast. Possibly a Mafia move.
"m0cking was forgetting about the treestump, and if you overlook that role, calling Shinobu out for refusing to partner with DB was smart. If he was deflecting, i'd expect him to be more careful with the flawed accusations. For day 1, when no one has any real reason to suspect mafia, you are the one person I have a feeling about. As far as Mijz goes, guilt by association I guess.
She does stand up for me, which doesn't require much effort though since it was obvious that I was mistaken. on the other hand she keeps pressing on Mido with not strong evidence and provided that we believe that Mido is Town this makes her even more suspicious. Posibly a Mafia move.
"Everyone votes and gives a reason. In doing so you could say everyone is making someone look guilty. I'm pretty sure everyone has their own mind. I'm hardly the voice of influence :I
You chose Mij for a reason, we all chose someone for a reason. Whether it's because you're friends or because he's a good player, or because he's also mafia. I'm keeping my vote and happy for you to keep yours if you feel like it's justified."
Weak reasoning possibly trying to avoid giving a better explanation why he voted Mido as he would probably be unable to give one. Also he acts as he doesn't mind Mido keeping a vote on him which is a good way to appear as a confident Townie. Possibly Mafia move.
"Given the lack of real evidence, I'd agree to a no lynch for now. I think we could learn a lot from the night kill."</i></blockquote>
Supposing that she is Mafia a no lynch would be a good choice now as she has been target already once and would be nice not to risk any more lynching for today. If I wasn't suspicious of her already though I might have seen this as a simple Townie agreeing to a no lynch knowing that we have high chances of lynching a a Townie. So to be fair I won't make anything out of this.
5. <blockquote><i>"UNVOTE: Midorikawa
VOTE: No Lynch"
Not making anything out of this either.
"Loving the flavor text. Might be giving little clues about who is who. I used to base the character's actions around the player's actions, in my mafia game. Although we've pretty much all had little squabbles, so it's not so helpful this time round."
I can't make something out of it... but I am getting tired with so much typing. -.-'
"Well, that makes me much less suspicious of Midorikawa, and I suppose it proves that the flavor text doesn't necessarily reflect our behaviour. I was hoping the night lynch would shed some light on things, but if anything, it's only made things more confusing. R.I.P. Cameron :/"
Well, I believe that Mafia is most likely paired with Town so if Mij is Town then I think chances that Mido is Mafia are higher. (Personal opinion, but then again, by now I have come to believe that Mido is most likely Town.) Also I agree, the night kill didn't give us much info and I think Mafia was planning on that. They targeted one of the players who have been mostly harmless to everyone which means that we cannot look to who this player had voted for and get some suspects. That's what I do usually at least. I mean if someone had a huge argument with another players and get's nightkilled next night I put the person that that player had the argument list on my possibly Mafia list... :P
"Less suspicious to me. I had a feeling, based on a few accusations that were going around on day 1, that Mido might be scum. I also noted how quickly she chose Mijz and the fact that Mijz has been very quiet. Now it transpires that Mij is innocent, any doubt I had about Mido picking Mijz because he was also mafia, is no longer valid. That's all I meant."
Again that I have a feeling thing. Well if you don't explain your reasoning feelings don't matter, it a cruel world... *pats on shoulder* but on the other hand I understand your reasoning with how Mij turning Town makes Mido less suspicious, but still I disagree. As we had proved a while ago Mafia doesn't have to be paired and also would not be to their benefit to do so... therefore I find your way of though to be faulty. And since you have been insisting on it I cannot help but assume that you could be Mafia trying to make us think that Mafia is indeed paired while they are most likely not. That's pretty much why I voted you at the next post. ^^ Highly likely Mafia move.
"I'm afraid I can't disprove your fears. I know that the mafia don't necessarily need to be partners but i'd imagine it would be easier for both of them if they were. The hassle of being partnered with a townie and having to convince them of your innocence as well as the thread, is one I'm sure anyone could do without. So I naturally assumed that they would try and partner with eachother if it was possible. I observed that Mijz was unusually quiet in this game and also duing that little debate we had on day 1, Mido seemed quite keen to call you out. I stuck up for you, if you remember, and if you are town, why would I bother getting involved at all. Say you and Mido are both innocent, it wouldn't matter to me who was lynched. Either way, it would of been a townie down. If I was mafia, I would have kept my mouth shut instead of implicating myself. I can't offer you any evidence, but if I was mafia, I certainly wouldn't be so vocal. Keep you vote on me if you think it's the right decision. It's definitely not, but I can't say any more in my defence.
I'm gonna save my vote for now. I'm still sussing the situation."
Really good defence I have to admit. Calm short and really strong. On the other hand I still think that the best choice for Mafia is pair with Townies. (That's what I would so if I were them...) But overall good defence, you clearly explain your reasoning and leave not much area for questioning. One thing you said though about why being so vocal if you were Mafia. Well that is exactly what a Mafia would say. They can be vocal and then just use that as a defence which is good as they can affect lynching and also get away with it. It is risky but it can and has been done before. Anyway I am all but convinced that you are Town, but I have no further evidence against you... for now. MUAHAHAHAHA!
I do not see you as clear, I didn't say I did. I still think you are someone to be weary of, I just suspect you less than I did at first. I accept your point about manipulating your partner, that would be a reason to want to be paired with an innocent, I guess personally, i'd rather not risk the chance of letting anything slip to that player. Certain opinions and even just a demeanour can make someone suspicious, this is now the case with Dark Blueberry. I suspect my own partner is scum.
Of course, you guys will just say that is me deflecting. I guess all I can say is 'trust me, I'm a doctor!'.
I deserved to be lynched for that awful joke"
Yes you do deserved to be lynched for that joke. ^^ Anyhow it is true you never said that you see Mido as "clear" only that you are not as suspicious as you used to be. But, I do not believe that if you were Mafia you would want to be paired with the other Mafia s it would only allow you to influence the Treestump instead of the Treestump and 2 out of the 6 Townies. Therefore I again believe that you are trying to convince us that Mafia is paired with each other. Possibly Mafia move.
Just because I was familiar with you from previous games and I knew you had quite a bit of experience. I would of been happy to partner with anyone really, but when I saw Shinobu turn you down, I saw an opportunity to ask you. I wasn't sure if individuals had already decided who they wanted to pair with."
I explain my thinking over this on post number 7 of Dark Blueberry.
"While I'm greatful m0cking, I really think we need to start voting. We're stagnating. We can lynch someone this phase and possibly make the wrong decision, but if we don't make any risky lynches, then the mafia is definitely going to win."
You are welcome! xD Agreed we did need to start voting at that point. Nothing to make out of this. Possibly Town move.
"Unless i'm overlooking some posts, @BoosterGold has been the least active person but we need to lynch someone, and that wont happen unless we all agree on the same person.
Sorry. As Mido says, feel free to argue your case."
No you are not overlooking any posts, Booster has indeed been the most inactive so far. The thing is that you seem really easy to risk a Town lynch by voting Pokemaster97 despite that you know that BoosterGold has been more inactive. Highly likely Mafia move.
That entire post you wrote pretty much defending Pokemaster has made me very suspicious. Booster doesn't get the same defence? Yes, he has posted less but throughout a whole 7 pages we haven't learnt anything about anyone. So regardless of the post count, we've gained pretty much the same insight into each of their roles, none the less. Unless you have some kind of common interest with Pokemaster, why are you so keen to defend him over BoosterGold.
Yes, we want to lynch someone and voting for yourself would be stupid, but BoosterGold is your partner, if you believe him to be innocent, why aren't you sticking up for him. The thread is opened to being challenged, after all, we wanna lynch but we wanna lynch the right person. If he hasn't posted in your QT or you think he is mafia, speak up. Give us some details. Tell us how you perceive his behaviour. You just seem happy to get the blame away from yourself, and Human seems oddly very passionate about defending you.
Possible mafia: HumanDawn, Pokemaster97"
Train of thought understood and claims are pretty solid. It surprises me though that you stood up for BG so eagerly. Anyway I think we are past HumanDawn after the Skype conversation and my hands are shaking after 4 hours of writing so far so I am not explaining the whole misunderstanding again.
If you have suspicions, share them. You don't have to go into detail if it's concerning QT chats."
Good idea. Possibly Town move.
"I know, but the rules say not to spam the mention button, so I haven't been.
I understand what you're saying. Please do post the Skype chat logs. I will say that Human is a good manipulator."
Well, if he I manipulating me he is dammn good at it indeed. So far far i have no solid evidence against him...
"I fully understand. I'm not asking you to go along with it. If I get lynched tonight, it will say a lot. I don't really care if I die at this point, I just want the scum to be weeded out, one way or another."
That is a little too much act there. What I read was more like, "My life matters not, as long as justice is served!". *places back of hand on forehead* :D Anyway this could be Mafia trying to look like Town but I can't really get anything from that.
"@Shinobu They aren't supposed too. Just their allignment. There could be a few people who suspect who they are though. I don't."
Aright I think the reason that Shinobu asked that question is because a while ago I decided to PM him as he didn't seem to be PMing us first. He asked me what is my role and name and I thought he was trying to trick question me and I told him that I don't think Townies know their roles just their alignment. Apparently he wasn't trying to trick question me and so he tried to confirm that here. I think Parma should be given all the conversations Shinobu had and therefore this can be proved. @Parma
"Mijzelffan was night killed and it was revealed that he was Cameron."
Thanks for explaining but I think DB knew that already...
"Even though I still think HumanDawn could be guilty, in the interests of progressing the game.
Vote: Dark Blueberry
Yes, he is my partner and i'm sad to do it but if you look over my previous comments, you'll find that I have said that his behaviour is suspicious. Although I'm very certain that both Human and Dark can't be mafia, or if they are, they're doing a brilliant job of convincing us that they're not on the same side. If Blueberry turns out to be mafia, that will confirm to me that Human probably isn't scum."
I guess I have to hope DB flips Mafia then... :/