Thread: Betrayal Knows My Name Mafia - End Game (Mafia/Opasts Won) - 10/1/12

VOTE: Greece

I want to at least have a vote set, so that we don't have yet another no-lynch. Her joke posts were of no real substance before, and she seems to have stopped posting much in general lately here. In addition, I don't think it's a stretch to say that she has come across as a bit suspicious to some of us here.

@Greece;

I feel like the mafia nightkilled Destiny Queen in order to frame me (or possibly Baron Dante). It's a sort of rookie move that's not that effective, which may suggest to me that the mafia may comprise of a few new players. Anyway, onto business: Human claimed a role to me quite a while back that's pretty much the same as Destiny Queen's -- not in terms of power, but in terms of flavour. He said he had to find the player with the role name 'Hotsuma', which, upon closer search, seemed to suggest that Human was Shuusei, which Destiny Queen turned out to be. Although Human didn't admit to being Shuusei -- as, indeed, that's against the rules -- I feel like his claim contradicts Destiny Queen's, as I don't see why there would be two roles linked to the one person (Hotsuma). Human ALSO said that his only 'power-role' was that votes against Hotsuma were halved, and that he got a hint to who this person was.

Seeing as Destiny Queen is dead and that proves she has that role and not Human (unless there is some fantastical role wizardry going on here), I can safely assume that Human is pretty much mafia.

In case my word doesn't mean much to you:

[11/09/2012 21:09:29] Human: And I need some Hotsune guy to stay alive till the end game
[11/09/2012 21:09:33] Human: to win
[11/09/2012 21:09:43] Buoy: o rly
[11/09/2012 21:09:48] Buoy: r u independent tho
[11/09/2012 21:10:12] Human: Yes rly
[11/09/2012 21:10:17] Human: and my only
[11/09/2012 21:10:19] Human: somewhat powerole
[11/09/2012 21:10:26] Human: is that votes against him are halved
[11/09/2012 21:10:44] Buoy: can i get the guy's name
[11/09/2012 21:10:46] Buoy: that you're trying to keep alive
[11/09/2012 21:10:57] Human: Hotsune Reijou
[11/09/2012 21:11:05] Human: I get a hint to who he is
[11/09/2012 21:11:15] Buoy: hotsuma renjou
[11/09/2012 21:11:18] Human: only once it works
[11/09/2012 21:11:20] Human: ohh
[11/09/2012 21:11:22] Human: my bad
[11/09/2012 21:11:30 | Edited 21:11:31] Buoy: ok
[11/09/2012 21:11:34] Buoy: just clarifying
[11/09/2012 21:11:39] Human: i dunno
[11/09/2012 21:11:53] Human: I don't watch the show and jap names are easy to forget and mess up
[11/09/2012 21:12:46] Human: he apparently has some uber special sexy ability
[11/09/2012 21:12:58] Human: like jeez i need to know of this guy
[11/09/2012 21:12:59] Human: who he is
[11/09/2012 21:16:40] Buoy: you would be shuusei i guess
[11/09/2012 21:16:53] Human: I cannot confirm that

Vote: Human.

Human Claimed indep and unless you know the series then how do you know their isn't more than one with ties to that character?
@Buoy;

I'm aware of the fact that Human claimed independent, which may even be seen as making him more shady, because a lot of mafiosi claim independent. As well as that, I have been looking up the series, and it doesn't seem like there is more than one role that could be linked to Hotsuma, and I highly doubt there's a single role that halves the votes of two other roles, given the roles that have already been revealed.

edit: By the way, there are three characters linked to Hotsuma, according to what I've been looking up: Yuki, Shuusei and Luka. Yuki and Shuusei (Atomic and Destiny Queen) are both dead, which leaves Luka. Luka is an OPAST, which means whoever has the Luka role is mafia. If Human is telling the truth about this link to Hotsuma, whatever it may be, then, by process of elimination, he is mafia.

It may not seem like it, but there is another person on this show. If you haven't found them, then that means that they must be an unimportant character then.

Originally Posted by Buoy

edit: By the way, there are three characters linked to Hotsuma, according to what I've been looking up: Yuki, Shuusei and Luka. Yuki and Shuusei (Atomic and Destiny Queen) are both dead, which leaves Luka. Luka is an OPAST, which means whoever has the Luka role is mafia. If Human is telling the truth about this link to Hotsuma, whatever it may be, then, by process of elimination, he is mafia.

And you're basing that on the empty relationship page of the Betrayal Mafia wiki? Buoy, unless you have actually watched the show, there is no way you can know all the characters, especially those linked to Hotsuma Renjou.

As far as I can tell, all you're doing is trying to create proof out of nowhere in order to lynch Human.

Vote: Buoy

Wait, if Human really does have a link to Hotsuma, then wouldn't that NOT make him mafia? Hotsuma, based on previous flavor text, is likely town. Why would a mafia member have any sort of connection like that to a townie, half-vote or not?

I don't know the show to be able to say much about the character relationships and all, but this just doesn't sound right to me.

UNVOTE: Greece
VOTE: Buoy

I actually thought you were town before this, but after the whole Dark Blueberry incident and this, I'm not so sure anymore.

well, idk. just my thoughts, as well as the fact his claim sort of contradicts someone who is proven to have a role that he claimed something similar to.

i'm sorry if speculation based on what i've researched, backed up with actual logic, is too much for you guys.

btw, there was no 'dark blueberry' situation. did she get lynched? no. did i have reason to vote her? yes.

I'm sorry but the very fact that you chose to vote Dark Blueberry with no given reason shows how scummy you actually are. And what IS that constraint anyway?

You voted a perfectly innocent person and didn't even explain yourself.

By situation, I meant that she ended up being town despite the apparent information you had that said otherwise. I'll admit, I also found her suspicious, so I'm not basing too much off of that, but her getting night-killed could've been the perfect "reverse psychology" type of set-up, where you could say it was to get you framed, all the while working on taking out townies.

I'm agreeing with Buoy here though. I kinda find it unlikely that two different roles revolve around one player staying alive. I can't say I've seen such happening.

Also Human's defense here is pretty... eh. Obviously, he can't tell us what his character is or anything, but you know, if he is an unimportant character, would he be in a game to begin with? And it is nevertheless a bit handy for him.

Thus, Vote: Human

I have been mentioned, but I don't now why, is it even relent any more?

Since my life is at stake here,

Vote: Buoy

Originally Posted by Greece

I have been mentioned, but I don't now why, is it even relent any more?

At the moment, not especially. I had voted you, but have since taken it off, so you have no votes right now anyway.