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    Oh, and for the record, anybody who has sent me a night action, those will still count. Basically, the phase was NOT reset or anything.

    And also... I'm glad my favorite character won. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saesee tiin View Post
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    If I was going to bring up someone who appears scummy to myself, it would be Saesee tiin. His random vote on Sputnik before, when there was little to no basis, was odd to me. But that's about the only indication I can think of right now.
    Scummy wow. That hurts ;_; and just because I don't say what my basis is. Does not mean it is not there. And my next vote will be for you, for saying I appear scummy. I hope you are happy with that basis.
    That's exactly what I mean by the scummy attitude. Simply voting me for stating my opinion on who appears scum-like isn't exactly the best course of action to take. If you are town, that attitude will only end up hurting us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fushimi View Post
    Okay, so basically you’re accusing me because I’m being cautious and ‘trying SO hard to look Town”. Hm.
    How refreshing. Caution is more generally seen as a trait of mafia members, for the most part, and I nearly always treat overly cautious people as such. As for 'trying to seem SO town', you're twisting my words slightly. I didn't say you were coming across as if you were attempting to appear 'SO' town, but you're pretty much trying to ridicule what I'm saying against you in this little quote, and, again, DISMISSING arguments against yourself is a fast-track method to getting lynched.

    I was going to point this out before, but I AM trying a different style. I normally vote day 1, but I didn’t here, because I figured that I’ve already done it plenty and maybe I should try something new. Easier said than to believe though, but whatever.
    Lord above. Did I say anything about you voting Day 1 or not? No. Besides that, why would you suddenly decide to try 'something new'? What exactly was wrong with the 'old way', if that's what you want to call it? As well as that, you're right, it is much easier said than believed, which is why it's the 'perfect' excuse for scum to get out of trying to explain themselves, as well as an attempt at undermining the entire argument by becoming the boy who cried 'im changing my playstyle'.

    She hasn’t really done much, and may just be trying to slink in the background, but still be noticed so she doesn’t seem suspicious. Granted, she’s away right now, but before that.
    Okay, but you're not really putting anything against her. Are you saying that her actions suggest to you that she is suspicious or what? You're not outlining any town- or scum-motivation as far as she goes.

    ? No, not really. I use ellipses far more than I should normally anyway. Fine, I do seem hesitant, but come on, how the hell is that going to give off some kind of scum tell. You’re really grasping at straws here if you’re going against someone’s typing style, I’m not that stupid that I’d be all ‘meek’ and using ellipses more than usual.
    The fact is that you're hesitant to actually suggest anything WORTHWHILE, because you're afraid that it's going to come back to you if it turns sour. "You're really grasping at straws" is something that every single person who doesn't really want to answer to an accusation says. It may be a little unfounded by itself, but there are other things that backs this up, so, in context, no, this is not 'grasping at straws', and you're just being evasive once again by trying to tell me such -- and you're also, again, trying to ridicule my argument. As well as that, sure, go ahead, use meta to defend yourself if you want, but it doesn't add to your defence at all. Finally, I'd like to point out that looking at somebody's typing style is a very effective way to analyse their overall behaviour.

    When did I ever say that? I’m usually one for lynches, but just because I didn’t this time I’m suddenly against them?
    I may vote Beck. He's saying he's against a day 1 lynch,
    Nope, you definitely never said that. I think you may have misinterpreted my post, but, either way, you, however indirectly, tried to suggest that Beck being against a Day 1 lynch was a reason to vote him, and you ALSO said that he was being cautious, which was additionally a reason to vote him, yet YOU'VE just admitted to being cautious, but that's not a good enough reason to vote for you? I'm sorry, but that's plainly ridiculous.

    It almost sounds to you like speculation is such a bad thing. I’m not much of a question asker, and this was about Zima. She was barely answering anything no matter what was asked.
    If you're speculating on the setup more often than you're asking questions, then it's time to look at yourself and how you're playing, because, just as often, people will be picking up on this behaviour and will hopefully realise that it's scummy, especially if it's taking the place of asking questions of people or analysing posts, which you, strictly speaking, could have done if you wanted to -- anybody could've.

    I see you point on the analysis, but there was… No reason to think someone would be a bomb/secret voter. I was questioning if there was because those seemed likely, I had no idea WHO would be one.
    You contradict yourself utterly here, and I'm just not going to even give this a response because this just cuts across nearly everything you'd said previously. If there was no reason to think that somebody was a bomb/secret voter, then why did you point it out as a possibility?

    As I said, I’m trying a different approach. Which apparently is not working out at all. If I didn’t think either were mafia, then… I don’t see what’s wrong with that. About the Human thing, I already said why I did that.
    In what way is it not working out? Additionally, it's just that you happen to see the town lynchees as town, and it's especially the fact that they flip town that makes me suspicious -- you seem to have picked up on the fact that they were town much more easily than anybody else did, with little evidence for it.

    Oh, lovely. I would say if my lynch would help the Town, then fine whatever, but since I’m already trying to seem TOO Town, then...
    What a lovely excuse to do what you want to. Besides, I didn't say that you were trying to seem 'too' town, because there's no such thing as being 'too' town, which is -- SHOCKER, yet again -- another way of trying to undermine what I'm saying by exaggerating it into nonsensical proportions.

    Vote: Saesee Tin

    You're joke voting on Day 3, there’s no real reason to do that. Also your vote on Zima before had really no substance.
    Yes, that's the trick. Try and derail not one, but two, trains of thought, against both you and Beck, which calls for additional discussion and stalls a lynch or a lynch process that is already in progress. You were somewhat more keen on the idea of Beck being mafia earlier -- why not now? I don't see what's changed particularly.

    ~*~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~***~*~*~*~*


    MASSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT PAY ATTENTION EVERYBODY

    1) @Momoka;
    2) @Zima;
    3) @Fushimi;
    4) @Midorikawa;
    6) @Dark Blueberry;
    7) @HumanDawn;
    9) @Saesee tiin;
    10) @Gotpika;
    11) @TheSleepyAbra;
    13) @Yata;
    14) @Soulmaster;
    16) @Beck;
    17) @Shinobu;
    18) @Smasher;
    19) @Doctor jokool;

    HUMAN HAS JUST DONE ME A HUGE FAVOUR. VICTORY WILL BE OURS. READ THIS CONVERSATION:


    THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE MY LAST POST AS TOWN. LET'S HOPE TO THE LORD ABOVE THAT IT IS.

    In summary, Human, Yata, Gotpika and Momoka are MAFIA. Zima and Fushimi have been cleared by Human. I'm the doctor (which they know about now so theres no point in hiding it lol).

    im so happy right now this is v exciting
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    Oh my fucking god. XD I have no words for this. XDD

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    I have literally no words for this. I don't understand what makes you so certain of this. This all sounds like a ploy to me... if you're about to be converted, that would make you mafia. Why would you tell us all this, if you want to win as your own alignment? Sounds strange to me.

    all my life I've tried to hide what history has given me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
    I have literally no words for this. I don't understand what makes you so certain of this. This all sounds like a ploy to me... if you're about to be converted, that would make you mafia. Why would you tell us all this, if you want to win as your own alignment? Sounds strange to me.
    thats right i made up the entire conversation by myself... u got me

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    @HumanDawn; @Momoka; @Yata; @Gotpika;

    Real cute. T_T I'm excited to see what kind of restriction I'll get next. -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
    I have literally no words for this. I don't understand what makes you so certain of this. This all sounds like a ploy to me... if you're about to be converted, that would make you mafia. Why would you tell us all this, if you want to win as your own alignment? Sounds strange to me.
    thats right i made up the entire conversation by myself... u got me
    I'm not saying you did or you didn't. This just seems way to... I don't even know. To be honest, I'm amused with how everyone is just believing it no questions asked.

    all my life I've tried to hide what history has given me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
    I have literally no words for this. I don't understand what makes you so certain of this. This all sounds like a ploy to me... if you're about to be converted, that would make you mafia. Why would you tell us all this, if you want to win as your own alignment? Sounds strange to me.
    thats right i made up the entire conversation by myself... u got me
    I'm not saying you did or you didn't. This just seems way to... I don't even know. To be honest, I'm amused with how everyone is just believing it no questions asked.
    oh sry i didnt know everyone was one person

    and is there not enough proof there for u or do u want something more substantial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
    I have literally no words for this. I don't understand what makes you so certain of this. This all sounds like a ploy to me... if you're about to be converted, that would make you mafia. Why would you tell us all this, if you want to win as your own alignment? Sounds strange to me.
    thats right i made up the entire conversation by myself... u got me
    I'm not saying you did or you didn't. This just seems way to... I don't even know. To be honest, I'm amused with how everyone is just believing it no questions asked.
    oh sry i didnt know everyone was one person

    and is there not enough proof there for u or do u want something more substantial
    they are now kidding of course

    I don't understand why if you were to be converted(which I guess was the topic of conversation) why you would slip all this to the town when you'd be mafia yourself. That'd be like going against your alignment, so I just.. don't get it.

    all my life I've tried to hide what history has given me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momoka View Post
    I have literally no words for this. I don't understand what makes you so certain of this. This all sounds like a ploy to me... if you're about to be converted, that would make you mafia. Why would you tell us all this, if you want to win as your own alignment? Sounds strange to me.
    thats right i made up the entire conversation by myself... u got me
    I'm not saying you did or you didn't. This just seems way to... I don't even know. To be honest, I'm amused with how everyone is just believing it no questions asked.
    oh sry i didnt know everyone was one person

    and is there not enough proof there for u or do u want something more substantial
    they are now kidding of course

    I don't understand why if you were to be converted(which I guess was the topic of conversation) why you would slip all this to the town when you'd be mafia yourself. That'd be like going against your alignment, so I just.. don't get it.
    have i been converted yet? no, not as far as i know. right now, i'm town, and in town's favour i'm going to act. hopefully this is going to ward off my getting converted, but i'm still going to have served whatever purpose i needed to as town, and that's enough to be content with for now.

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    I don't want to butt in, but I have to say one thing. Since Buoy is town AT THIS MOMENT, he isn't technically playing against his win condition. Whereas if he was converted, he would be playing against his win condition.

    Ninja'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post

    have i been converted yet? no, not as far as i know. right now, i'm town, and in town's favour i'm going to act. hopefully this is going to ward off my getting converted, but i'm still going to have served whatever purpose i needed to as town, and that's enough to be content with for now.
    Ah, alright, I understand now. Although I find it hard to believe that someone could 'slip up' like this. I know you won't believe me and probably no one else, but this is a scam. I'm not mafia.

    all my life I've tried to hide what history has given me

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    Honestly this just seem like a super dumb move on Humans part to tell Buoy that before he is actually converted. Something seems off here.

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    Please roleclaim, Momoka. :3

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