Thread: The Bulbagarden Conversational Chat, Vol. 3

Originally Posted by 捷克羅姆

But yeah, those characters are a big barrier when it comes to learning Chinese/Japanese (and let's not take into consideration on Traditional and Simplified characters...)

Is it normal for me to be able to read both?

On another topic, well, I'm making recovery discs for a laptop now. 6 DVDs are a lot...

Probably, if you're Chinese and your parents taught you the traditional one. There's another problem right there: It's so unnecessarily complicated, the Chinese even had to throw their dignity away and reassemble most characters so you wouldn't have to spend 4 decades writing everything. And when native speakers do that to their own writing system, you know something is off.

Originally Posted by Kenshi

Probably, if you're Chinese and your parents taught you the traditional one. There's another problem right there: It's so unnecessarily complicated, the Chinese even had to throw their dignity away and reassemble most characters so you wouldn't have to spend 4 decades writing everything. And when native speakers do that to their own writing system, you know something is off.

It really shows, huh? However, different people have different opinions on the same thing, regarding Simplified and Traditional Chinese.

There's one thing I know for sure, though - I cannot input in Traditional Chinese using my computer, due to... a lack of input method suitable for use for someone that uses Hanyu Pinyin all the way.

I hear it's a bitch to type in Japanese as well, because apparently there aren't enough buttons to assign to just one Kana, so they first write it in Roman characters and then convert them to their Kana forms. No idea what they do with the tremendous amount of Kanji they'd still need to use in conjunction, nor have I typed anything with that tiny... uh, Furigana, or whatever in it. So yeah, pretty annoying. Over here you can use Hangul as both a syllablary and an alphabet, though I admit I'm not as used to typing things in Korean as I am in typing English.

Anywho, I'm going to sleep, see you guys.

Originally Posted by Kenshi

They've been teaching me Chinese characters since I was in preschool

You studied Chinese characters before?

Originally Posted by Kenshi

but not only are they a bitch to write (there being 40 strokes in practically every letter)

Now, now, in most dictionaries (of traditional characters), the most complicated word usually have 29 strokes at most. (Completely misses the point)

Originally Posted by Kenshi

you have to have this grasp of what the creators of each Han-whatever had in mind when combining characters and whatnot, which I just don't getl

They do have different origins...

Originally Posted by Kenshi

I can't even get to the number 8 starting from the first 3 anymore

一二三 isn't that hard...

Originally Posted by Kenshi

, and that and the fact that there's 40,000 or more in total and you're expected to memorize a certain amount just to get by drives me away more and more.

50~80,000 characters actually. But 5,000 should be enough to understand the language (and possibly go insane...)

Originally Posted by Kenshi

Glad I left Korea old enough to not forget an easy and efficient alphabet, but my affinity with Hanzai is just absolute zero. I can't even write my name in Chinese, though I knew a short kid who couldn't even do that with Hangul.

Hanzi (=.=). You've been to Korea?

Originally Posted by ♪Twiggy♪

Is it normal for me to be able to read both?

On another topic, well, I'm making recovery discs for a laptop now. 6 DVDs are a lot...

Sure, I can read both too (I'm just better with Traditional...)

Moving on, 6DVDs? How much memory do they have (each)? Maybe I should start using my new hard drive

Originally Posted by 捷克羅姆

Moving on, 6DVDs? How much memory do they have (each)? Maybe I should start using my new hard drive

~4.3 GB per disc.

Whew. It's all done now.

Originally Posted by Kenshi

Probably, if you're Chinese and your parents taught you the traditional one. There's another problem right there: It's so unnecessarily complicated, the Chinese even had to throw their dignity away and reassemble most characters so you wouldn't have to spend 4 decades writing everything. And when native speakers do that to their own writing system, you know something is off.

I'm pretty much sure they use Simplified in Malaysia and Singapore, due to mainlanders moving in some decades ago.

And, I don't support the use of simplified characters either, but it's becoming a necessity in learning Chinese. Although, the government in mainland is allowing the use of traditional characters for (strictly) academic purposes. They're really having some difficulty in reading the old text. And, traditional Chinese is still being used in Taiwan and some overseas Chinese community.

Originally Posted by ♪Twiggy♪

~4.3 GB per disc.

Whew. It's all done now.

That's good. Now you have a backup. Wish I made one when my computer crashed...

Originally Posted by 捷克羅姆

That's good. Now you have a backup. Wish I made one when my computer crashed...

I have a 1TB external hard disk connected to my desktop precisely for backups and data mobility.

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@Synthesis Finding the special characters a lot of fun?

Hey good people of this thread, I have no idea what the current conversation is, but I'm bored so here I am.

Originally Posted by ♪Twiggy♪

Finding the special characters a lot of fun?

b@¬@¬@¬@ I §u®£ @m

Just don't forget to not overdo it. I had difficulty reading your post!

I'm tired now.

Yeah, same. Although I plan on watching Saw 1-3 soon with my brother.

For Halloween or something else?