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    So far I have really enjoyed XY. I love the fact that there are Pokemon from the other regions. Pikachu is looking as adorable as ever. I would love it if the writers brought back one of Ash's older fire Pokemon instead of having him catch a new one. I really would like to see Quilava make a comeback and evolve into Typhlosion and also bring Infernape back for a few cameos. I was so happy to see Pichu finally get another focus episode. I also love the Pokemon Pancham basically because it's species is a Panda and pandas are my all-time favorite wild animal.
    I am really enjoying Ash's new traveling friends. Clemont is pretty cool and funny but I still adore Brock the most. Bonnie is totally adorable and I love that she has an electric type Pokemon like Ash does. Serena is pretty cool but a little too girly for me. I prefer Misty and Dawn over Serena. I just hope that Serena catches another Pokemon soon.
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    Let's see:

    In my opinion the XY series has been pretty okay so far. It reminds me a little of AG in some sense and I like the characters almost just as much.

    Ash- What can I say? Compared to what they did to him in BW/BW 2/Da, Ash so far has been a big improvement. He isn't acting like a bigger kid than Bonnie that's for sure. And that would be bad if BW's Ash were to be around Bonnie. I like how he's more in tune with training more than he was when he already had over six pokemon by now in the last series. I also like how he's still a little funny and a bit serious at times. I understand him being bland to some but he's been on for years and if you're watching the how for just him, than someone is missing the point of the show.

    As far as the bad parts are concerned, I don't like how he's e only one doing something yet again. It was kind of bad in the past when only one other character but him did something and it was even worse in BW when the other two characters goals were barely being done t times, but in XY now, no one is doing a thing.

    Pikachu- As bland as a pokemon can get Pikachu got on my nerves at times but never like this. I understand it's popularity but share the battles a little. If I see Pikachu in another gym it doesn't need to be in, I will scream. unless the degenerated mouse evolves this season, there is no need for it to hog most of the battles, along with the titles of the gym battles too.

    Speaking of Pokémon, what' with the Lucario love all of a sudden? I someone I nthe staff a Lucario fan or are they just hyping a simple pokemon that doesn't need to be hyped anymore. I figured with Maylene(excuse spelling), Riley and from the movie and Cameron, tht tey would be tired of it by now. After this I hope I never see one again unless necessary. If they are going to hype a pokemon like that then they could have atleast give Ash one.

    Clemont- He's okay for a second male character. He's a ttle shy and nerdy. But he's refreshing and he doesn't feel like he's a perfectionist like the last couple of boys. I also like the dynamic between him and his sister. I also think that he has/had potential to have a goal of his own. I don't mind him being a gym leader but there is so much to do in XY, that I was expecting them to make the second boy move for a change. I feel that they put them in a corner all the time and people hold Ash and the girl to some sort of candle. I don't think it's fair to either,

    Serena- She doesn't bother me like some other girls. I don't care if she's girly or not. It makes sense since XY has a lot of stuff that some will consider more for girls. That's not her fault. Her crush however, doesn't do anything for me either unless Ash does something to return it. As far as her Fennekin is concerned, it is the only fire type I can't stand. It doesn't nearly do as much as I expected. It's bad enough when a trainer does squat but a pokemon that doesn't seem to what to get it's paws dirty when it's born to get it's paws dirty makes no sense to me.

    As far as goals are concerned, there is no excuse. There's so many things that they can write and make up for her to do in XY it's ridiculous. I don't think that was there intention with her though. They just wanted something new.

    Bonnie- She's cute and pretty cool and that's about it. I would like to see her interact more with Ash alone than with the other two. Since in AG, Max kind of admired Ash I haven't seen that sort of closeness with those two just yet. It would be awesome to see.

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    This is the first pokemon series I've made an attempt to watch all the way through in about ten years. While I praise the art style, Ash has gotten too stagnant. There's no actual drama to the story, no motivation for Ash aside from beating the gyms. Where are the rivals? Also, I thought Serena left to go on an adventure. She hasn't done much battling.


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    The couple of times I've watched it, the animation was pretty good, the storyline wasn't too grating, and the battles didn't make me scream "What the hell are you doing, you moron?!!" and bolt from the room. So yeah, I'm good with the XY series. It seems to be going in a better direction than BW ever did.

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    And since when the hell was "Dodge It!" a move?
    About that. The anime's always done that at one point or another. It annoys me that Pokemon can just leap willy-nilly around 100% accuracy moves, but that's anime physics for ya. And sometimes dodging doesn't even work and the Pokemon gets pounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swedish_Chef View Post
    And since when the hell was "Dodge It!" a move?
    Since Johtoh.

    I'm loving XY for the most part, but I do think they're spamming Pikachu too much. Hopefully the upcoming Hawlucha capture and Fletchling evolution will help fix that.

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    Default Re: What do you think of the XY saga so far?

    Well I do wish Serena had a few more Pokemon. And Bonnie really is the anti christ in my opinion, but overall its good, not as good as Sinnoh, but better than AG and BW.

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    I think it's going cool so far.. Specially Serena is making it more great for me..:D

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    *WARNING: UNPOPULAR OPINION HERE-- DON'T READ IF YOU LIKE POKEMON THE SERIES: XY AND YOU DON'T WANT TO READ A NEGATIVE REVIEW*

    The XY Series is just as overrated, and somehow even *more* terrible than the Diamond & Pearl Saga was, which is really saying something.

    Why, you ask, do I dislike the XY Series? Oh boy, where do I begin?

    Ash: Blander than ever, still as incompetent as ever (e.g. lost to Viola in XY005, lost to Sanpei in XY017, almost lost to...TEAM...FREAKING...ROCKET...in XY001, and yeah, I know he was battling against Clemont prior to that in the latter case, but anyone can take down TR, even when weakened severely, honestly), and his outfit is worse and more unoriginal than ever (e.g. lame rehash of Red's hat-- duh, we know Ash is supposed to be Red in the Anime, so why give him this hat in Gen 6's Anime when you could have given it to him years ago? Gee, how ORIGINAL; hipster jacket/clothes, gloves are a rehash of the BW ones, etc.), and he has only two viable emotions: happiness, and sadness. No sense of selfishness at times (that's a bad thing-- makes him less human), no sense of selflessness either (that's also a bad thing and once used to define Ash's character to me-- that crap where Pikachu conveniently fell off the building in XY002 doesn't count considering the focus was on removing Garchomp's collar most of the time-- to see this scenario done right and better, watch AG001, thanks), and generally Mr. Borg has returned in the flesh with even less emotions than his DP counterpart. Great job, writers, and great job, fandom: the "mature" plain as paint Ash has returned in lamer than ever fashion, so I hope you're happy-- he'll also be "badass" in battles even though he'll ultimately fail epicly at the Pokémon League or if not there, the Champion League, anyway, but it doesn't matter-- forget his character, let's just care about how "cool" he is! LOL!

    Team Rocket: They aren't funny, they aren't competent, and heck, they aren't even remotely tolerable at all in XY: they are symbolic of utter stupidity incarnate. Apparently Da! was just the calm before the storm, because somehow TR have taken a level in dumb*ss so far down in XY, that in the Pancham episode and the "Kindergarten Chaos" episodes, they have proven to out suck their DP counterparts in terms of unbearable stupidity by some ill twist of fate, and instead of James having his flanderized whiny crybaby personality, Jessie being a flanderized b*tch, and Meowth being menancing cold-hearted and evil personality wise like was the case for me in DP, TR are now all the same kind of spazzy, moronic, cocky idiot like three sides of a die...they have no emotional episodes so far, they don't express any signs of intelligence 90% of the time, and they have gone back to their almost borderline mentally challenged antics to catch Ash's Pikachu. I suppose most of you are happy the serious BW TR are gone, but I frankly am appalled TR have managed to regress backwards like this and I don't like THIS kind of "comedy" at all from TR.

    Clemont: He's alright, but his personality is a little blander than I'd like akin more to Tracey than Brock or Cilan's energetic enthusiastic personalities, and while I found the invention gag entertaining for the first 15 or so episodes, it's already gotten stale for me and I'm not finding it funny anymore. I like his characterization, though: Clemont shows great promise to be the standout for me from XY if he just gets a little bit more goofiness or silliness like when he runs clumsily and such in his personality.

    Bonnie: Poor. She has her moments like with Flabebe, but in some other episodes, like the one where Dedenne gets confused for Pichu, Bonnie is absolutely unbearable and intolerable. I find that "cuteness" does not make a good characterization, and Bonnie is no exception to this. Her character needs improvement in spades, and we need less XY004 and 16 eps. from her, and more like XY027, if possible. That's the Bonnie I want to see more of, and less of...well, you know, THAT.

    Serena: Awful. Congrats, Bonnie, the one heroine who has managed to be so horrendously characterized thus far in the XY Series that makes you seem more like the heroine than she is! She's shallow, vain, and conceited with her obsession with Ash almost consuming her at times, her fear of getting dirty at one point with Fennekin (though admittedly at least that was *somewhat* overcome), and her biggest fault is her lack of participation in battles sans TR of what I've watched of XY so far (if anything has changed past Episode 30 w/Serena, I apologize, but this is based solely off of the first 30 episodes w/her). The writers really mishandle her, sadly, so it's not all her fault: she gets the shaft akin to what happened to DP Brock, IMO. Good potential, but severely wasted: I wish we'd see more of the sassy Serena like the one in the first two episodes, where she got mad/pouty at Ash for not remembering her, and finally the one where she slaps Ash's hand when he tries to eat something that I (think?) was her food/cake/pastry or something.

    Chespin is good and Froakie is okay as far as the Pokémon go for me, Fletchling is as generic as watching grass grow, Pikachu's liking of ketchup was nice but his characterization still falls flat with me and he still feels TOO much like Ash now, Dedenne is a plushie-mon that I don't like to me, and I'm mixed on the others as well.

    Overall: Yeah, not impressed, and not happy at all-- pretty much lost interest in the Series as a result here Anime wise, though of course it's mainly Ash's never-ending failures at the League, his "Pokémon Master" goal that will never be defined and most likely never realized, and TR's utterly deplorable characterizations and lack of anything resembling depth that has made me lose interest in general.
    WHY can't we get something good like Pokémon: The Origin again instead of this? *sighs*


    *Side Note: The English dub of XY is also unbearable as well to me, and this solidified my belief that the 4Kids cast + crew were the best for the dub's run-- the dub will and can never be as good as it used to be with the TPCi/DuArt cast + crew, IMHO-- it's just fallen way too far at this point...the voice acting has hit a new low, the script writing has too, and the intro/ending XY Remix + Instrumental is HORRIBLE-- the only good thing I can say about the dub is the insert dub BGM for the WTP Segments-- that is well put together and well composed, honestly.*
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    Not great, but it at least seems kind of competent compared to Best Wishes. The group dynamic is probably the best that it's been since Hoenn, in that it exists (unlike Sinnoh) and isn't unbearable (unlike Unova), and I think that's gone a long way in helping me overlook some of the more glaring flaws I've noticed so far (the recycled plots, Team Rocket, etc.). On their own merits it's kind of shocking how bland all of the main characters are, even by this show's standards, but I think they've done a really good job selling the group as actual friends. Sometimes Serena can kind of feel like they grabbed a background secretary from Mad Men and dropped her on the show, and that's disappointing, but hopefully she gets some character development sometime soon. Ash...is Ash. He's always been defined by the characters that surround him, so he's been pretty okay in XY. I'm thrilled that they moved on from "idiot nuisance" and went back to "boring nice guy" again, because they milked all the humor out of him being dumb about a decade ago.

    I wouldn't call it a strong start by any means, considering I haven't found much of it memorable at all, but it's been pretty inoffensive and it can be fun to watch how the characters interact with each other. In a lot of ways it feels like they're playing it really safe this season, maybe because a lot of the more experimental things they tried in Best Wishes were so poorly handled and received. Advanced and DP had missteps, too, but those series also made me feel like they were a little more willing to shake up the formula. I don't think it panned out at all, but I also liked the way Black and White threw a million things at the wall, trying to find anything that would stick. It would be nice to see more ambition out of the show; right now it's really paint-by-numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowsave View Post
    Not great, but it at least seems kind of competent compared to Best Wishes. The group dynamic is probably the best that it's been since Hoenn, in that it exists (unlike Sinnoh) and isn't unbearable (unlike Unova), and I think that's gone a long way in helping me overlook some of the more glaring flaws I've noticed so far (the recycled plots, Team Rocket, etc.). On their own merits it's kind of shocking how bland all of the main characters are, even by this show's standards, but I think they've done a really good job selling the group as actual friends. Sometimes Serena can kind of feel like they grabbed a background secretary from Mad Men and dropped her on the show, and that's disappointing, but hopefully she gets some character development sometime soon. Ash...is Ash. He's always been defined by the characters that surround him, so he's been pretty okay in XY. I'm thrilled that they moved on from "idiot nuisance" and went back to "boring nice guy" again, because they milked all the humor out of him being dumb about a decade ago.

    I wouldn't call it a strong start by any means, considering I haven't found much of it memorable at all, but it's been pretty inoffensive and it can be fun to watch how the characters interact with each other. In a lot of ways it feels like they're playing it really safe this season, maybe because a lot of the more experimental things they tried in Best Wishes were so poorly handled and received. Advanced and DP had missteps, too, but those series also made me feel like they were a little more willing to shake up the formula. I don't think it panned out at all, but I also liked the way Black and White threw a million things at the wall, trying to find anything that would stick. It would be nice to see more ambition out of the show; right now it's really paint-by-numbers.
    I can agree with some of this. Granted, when it comes to moderately amusing by-the-numbers stuff vs. very poorly executed experimental stuff, I think I'd prefer the former almost every time. I do think part of what's coloring our opinions is that we're still at this early point in the season, so we haven't seen the full payoff from things like Korrina's arc, the Mega Evolution specials, and Serena's search for a passion.

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    Yeah, I think at some point you've got to accept that, by and large, the show isn't going to turn into something drastically different. You can only hope that it stays mostly good and mostly consistent, and I think in that way XY has done a pretty good job. I was just hoping that they would look at all the bad stuff they've done in the past and figure out what went wrong in the execution, instead of running away from those concepts in favor of a more tried-and-true formula.

    It's still early, but still, thirty-five episodes is a pretty long time. Not in the grand scheme of the show, but that's a lot of time sitting and watching a show and not getting much payoff. I'm not talking about things like catching Pokemon or gym badges, but just getting a sense of the characters and what they're hoping to accomplish in the next 35 episodes, and the 35 after that. Excluding Ash, who's had the same goal since the late 90's, we haven't been given much of a reason to be invested in the journeys of the other characters. That's a pretty basic concept in storytelling, and its absence here has seemed weird to me. Stuff like "I'm going to be a Pokemon Breeder, so I have to travel with you because" and "I want to be a great coordinator, but I don't like Pokemon" and "I caught this Pokemon before the show started, and it's not going to listen to me for a while" aren't exactly amazing storylines that earn a ton of investment from the viewer, but they were at least present.

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    Only a few problems:
    * lack of direction
    * lack of rival
    * lack of traveling companions' goals
    * team rocket inconsistent personality

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    I guess XY isn't as grand as I thought...
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    I like it. I admit that some of the hype died down, but it's still good. I might be the minority, but I actually like Serena not battling much. All the past girls had been relatively powerful battlers, but there's no rule saying Serena should be one as well. Besides, it looks like PokeVision is going to be her goal, so battling might not be really her thing. It's not as if every single person in the pokemon world has to be good battlers anyways. Besides, she's the one showing activities to do in Kalos and demonstrating them, so her episodes are more diverse and interesting imo.

    However, the recent episodes did get a bit bland. I'd like to see the next Mega Evolution Special. I'm more interested to see what Alan is going to do rather than Ash, and I wish Team Flare would appear soon.
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    Food for thought: XY might in fact be average or slightly above average at best. BUUUT, Best Wishes was soo bad, that anything better seems like the best thing in comparison. So I guess Best Wishes' lack of quality makes us appreciate XY more than it deserves.

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