-Iris contributing to resolution of plot in museum episode(to be precise BW episode14)
-it was Iris who helped Amy and her problems with Druddigon in Bw 30 episode displaying her knowledge when it comes to raising dragon types
-Iris also played role in Emolga focused episodes in BW 27 and BW 28
Also for Iris to be able to properly demonstrate her battling skills she would need obedient pokemon:something which didnt happened with Excadrill under 36th episode and something which didnt happened so far with Emolga.
Depends for who because i actually started to like her catchphrase/"kodomo-ne" being fitting for character reflecting her own immaturity and how she still has long way to go.Running gags are meant to be funny, this isn't. I'd even argue it isn't a running gag at all. But, ultimately, this is like that It's like Brock hitting on girls, just because it's a running gag doesn't mean that trait makes me like the character more, and the same logic applies to Iris's catchphrase. Especially as there's no a whole lot of redeeming qualities or vulnerable moments with Iris to counterbalance her
To counter your argument there have been moments of vulnerability with Iris.When her Excadrill lost battle against Langley we saw character having emotional breakdown feeling guilt of not being able to understand her own pokemon feelings and how he felt for years admitting her own mistakes.
That was very significant in Iris character because she started to change deciding to change her approach becoming better trainer.
Another example can be noticed in her inability to handle criticism reacting inappropriately because of being reminded with Ash mistakes of her own arrogance and stubbornness in past.
In this case character is by showing his own imperfections showing his sensitive side reacting impulsively.
Did you purposely skipped everything i wrote about Iris imperfections and room to grow more as character?Exactly, and that's the problem. There's no justification right now for Iris's presence on the show and she stops various storylines dead in their tracks and stunts her own and other characters's developpement.
People already stated several times what are Iris flaws,what are vectors through which her character can be developed and in what way her story might continue.
What makes you think otherwise is beyond me.
Im not sure if you noticed but lately Iris screen time now that all plots which for her story has been revealed she is getting quite a lot of focus and attention lately playing some role in almost every episode with writers addressing how she is present in those episodes.The fact that she often does stand around and do nothing even in tense situations is something that's hard to overlook.
To each their own i guess.But the more the series presses on, it's not out of sheer spite that I like Iris less and less. It's the show's failure to connect Iris with the general audience by making her an unrealistic protagonist with a convoluted backstory.
Fact that writers decided to break mold going out of their way gained them respect from my side by being brave and motivated enough to try different kind of path through which Iris story will develop compared to previous characters.
Their attempt of keeping Iris components of story like goal of becoming dragon master,problems with pokemon like Excadrill and Axew and reasons from which they stem etc as mystery in beginning starting to gradually reveal more and more of them brought new dimension to Iris character creating nice suspense for audience increasing their interest while at same time leaving so many things unanswered with ambiguous meaning.Like what exactly her goal of becoming dragon master really means and how her task to evolve Axew overlaps with it,is Langley supposed to be her rival and push for Iris future character development? etc..
Not for everyone of course but there is no denying how several people along with me welcomed their different approach.
For me good writing is present when writers reveal only that much about character to give them some rough picture but at same time they are making sure not to play all of their cards right away making several things undefined with double meaning leaving audience to guess by themselves what might happen next and in what direction character story will continue making it more complicated when you have several things overlaping in process.
Thats why i thought how Misty dream of becoming water pokemon master was unique and complicated because of not knowing enough about it to get full picture only knowing how its similar to Ashs requiring traveling,entering water competitions with E4 position being basically highest place for someone who strive to become this.
Grated writers blew it dropping ball with Misty thing leaving it unexplored with no closure being given to it but since than they had 8 years to improve becoming better learning on their mistakes.That and in Misty favor didnt went fact how ex had writer didnt cared for character not wanting to do much with it.
With Iris that sort of handicap from writers doesnt exist and judging by more active approach they have taken with Iris goal her story will without doubt be treated better by receiving more attention and substance.
I never said that i find different point of view inconceivable.Some people view Iris as epitome of bad writing,others see Iris qualities in flaws which are addressed by dislikers finding how there exist good writing in her story bringing up one simple problem.Yes, subjective/objective blah blah blah, but the fact of the matter is that we truly feel the writing and the character is awful just as others feel the writing and the character is amazing. Like I said, there's no right or wrong here. No one has a right to judge how we're perceiving a show just because somehow, our opinion is inconceivable from your perspective.
If people cant agree on what can be considered as bad or good writing in Iris story having different definition of it and perspective that would lead to disagreement with pro and anti side not being on same mind-lenght.
Problem is that i dont consider everything which writers did with Iris so far badly with her story being poorly treated.Is it really that hard to accept that there are genuinely good reasons to not like Iris and believe that the writers are doing a poor job with her?