im very sure the REAL Lance not the one from orange league would beat Ash
im very sure the REAL Lance not the one from orange league would beat Ash
I think that if ash only relies on his gay "friendship" strategy he will never be able to do anything good like: beating the elite four; beating one of the elite four's pokemon; or even defeating Iris's Dragonite with his best pokemon Krookodile.
The bottom line is: I could defeat ash with a level one Abra.
Last edited by DragonMaster1; 2nd January 2013 at 08:11 PM. Reason: Merging posts
Dragon Rush!!!
Ash is like my dumb 6 year old cousin. He gets to a stage where he has a decent pokemon team having taken 20 times longer than needed to do so and then decides he is bored and restarts with a new team. He clearly has some complex about using good pokemon given his insane fear of pikachu evolving and how he managed not to acquire a legendary while befriending like 10.
On the other hand given how quick Iris pokemon are improving I can see her becoming the next champion like in the game. Excadrill and Dragonite with a possible future haxorous.


He's never going to beat any members of the elite 4, heck he's possibly regressing back to the top 8 in the Unova League.
There's no reason to be rude when pointing out another person's mistake like that. Please don't do that again.
Anyway, I still don't really see Ash being able to defeat an Elite 4 Pokemon. Depending on which one he was facing and which Pokemon he used, I could see him putting up a pretty good fight and maybe doing a bit of damage before losing, but I don't think he could actually defeat a Pokemon from one of the Elite 4 of any region.
Definition of Members of the Elite Four - A member of the Elite Four quartet in a particular region a.k.a. one of the four Elite Four trainer.
Your comment is confusing. If you are referring to Members of the Elite Four, your comment definitely off topic; If you are referring the Pokemon of an Elite Four as "Members of Elite Four", then you are not off topic but simply made a mistake.
No one ever in the games or the anime referred the Pokemons of an Elite Four as "Members of Elite Four"
Last edited by Mareepy; 16th December 2012 at 06:49 PM.

Hey guys, have you heard? Ash beat Shauntal's Chandelure!
Other News: The first pig ever has learned how to fly.
If ash battled the same way he did the battle frontier and used his strongest pokemon like Charizard, I think yes he should be able to defeat at least one pokemon of the e4 as long as they don't switch pokemon.
only if the Elite Four Trainer removes their brain beforehand, and also blindfolds themself during the battle.
fuck you, sig.

They also must use Magikarp.
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