Thread: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

Originally Posted by Lord Clowncrete

Originally Posted by Angad

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

Originally Posted by Winterdaze

Originally Posted by Pikmin1211

CoughEruptionCough

Sheer Force boosted Fire Blast out-damages Eruption anyway. Shadow Ball is really the only other move of note in Entei's movepuddle, hitting Slowbro and Chandelure.

What about Flare Blitz? I mean, Flare Blitz would be dangous considering Entei's already high Attack stat.

Flare Blitz came from an event for Entei, this is assuming that Entei wouldn't be getting it again.

We can always assume since this entire thread is about assuming, lol. TBH, it would just be an inferior Darmanitan.

Would it? That speed boost and bulk is pretty handy.

Originally Posted by Angad

Originally Posted by Lord Clowncrete

Originally Posted by Angad

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

Originally Posted by Winterdaze

Originally Posted by Pikmin1211

CoughEruptionCough

Sheer Force boosted Fire Blast out-damages Eruption anyway. Shadow Ball is really the only other move of note in Entei's movepuddle, hitting Slowbro and Chandelure.

What about Flare Blitz? I mean, Flare Blitz would be dangous considering Entei's already high Attack stat.

Flare Blitz came from an event for Entei, this is assuming that Entei wouldn't be getting it again.

We can always assume since this entire thread is about assuming, lol. TBH, it would just be an inferior Darmanitan.

Would it? That speed boost and bulk is pretty handy.

This is true. Darmy's attack is lovely, but it would love entei's higher defense, and the additional speed (even though it's only +5 base) would allow it to outspeed some of it's key threats.

Of the three Legendary beasts, Raikou would probably be able to put Sheer Force to the best use. Thunderbolt (or Thunder in rain) coming off an equivalent of 165 Special Attack is going to absolutely tear into anything that doesn't resist it. SubCM would be even more terrifying, since Raikou has the bulk to set up on a lot of threats while still packing a lot of power.

Suicune wouldn't get as much mileage out of Sheer Force, with no-burn Scald barely out-damaging Surf. In most cases it would be better off sticking to its defensive role with Pressure.

What if Marowak got Techitian?

What if any Rapid Spin user got Scrappy? (you wish :P)

What if Flygon got Tinted Lens?

Originally Posted by Dralcax

What if any Rapid Spin user got Scrappy? (you wish :P)

What if Flygon got Tinted Lens?

I think TL Flygon might've been mentioned already...

As for spinners getting Scrappy, I think most of them would prefer the abilities they already use on spinning sets, barring the hitmon family (again, that's been mentioned already, imagine Hitmonlee/top firing off Hi Jump Kicks with Impunity). For example, Forretress would generally prefer Sturdy, and Starmie would prefer natural cure any day. Cloyster might be a toss-up, but 9 times out of 10, it'll enjoys it's ability to fire off BP 115-125 Icicle Spears (accounting for Multiscale in the first number) way too much to exchange it for perfect spinning. It might be an interesting niche, but most possible spinners generally have more usable abilities.

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

What if Marowak got Techitian?

I'd personally prefer them with Pure/Huge Power and a priority move like Mach Punch or Sucker Punch. How would that work?

Also, what do you guys think of Sturdinja here?

Originally Posted by Gengarzilla

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

What if Marowak got Techitian?

I'd personally prefer them with Pure/Huge Power and a priority move like Mach Punch or Sucker Punch. How would that work?

Also, what do you guys think of Sturdinja here?

Marowak with Technician is in my previous thread already.

And Sturdy Shedinja actually needs a lot of support to use, atleast a spinner, something to rub off weather, something clear out Pokemon with Will-o-Wisp and Toxic....
Its commonly used in Hackmons, but it can be easily countered.

Originally Posted by Mareepy

Originally Posted by Gengarzilla

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

What if Marowak got Techitian?

I'd personally prefer them with Pure/Huge Power and a priority move like Mach Punch or Sucker Punch. How would that work?

Also, what do you guys think of Sturdinja here?

Marowak with Technician is in my previous thread already.

And Sturdy Shedinja actually needs a lot of support to use, atleast a spinner, something to rub off weather, something clear out Pokemon with Will-o-Wisp and Toxic....
Its commonly used in Hackmons, but it can be easily countered.

True, but if the opponent doesn't use entry hazards, damaging weather, or status causing moves, then Shed could easily sweep. It's definatly high risk, high reward. I've actually seen a few guys who are just Sturdinja bait.

As for Technician Marowak, the only major move that would boost is Bonemerang. Well that gives it higher power than EQ at least. It will still need priority to compete with Technician users like Scizor and Breloom.

Say, what if Hydreigon had Sheer Force?

Originally Posted by Gengarzilla

True, but if the opponent doesn't use entry hazards, damaging weather, or status causing moves, then Shed could easily sweep. It's definatly high risk, high reward. I've actually seen a few guys who are just Sturdinja bait.

That's a lot of 'buts,' especially with Stealth Rocks and weather being so ubiquitous in the metagame.

Originally Posted by SharKing

Say, what if Hydreigon had Sheer Force?

I think Hydreigon is actually okay in the power department. In my opinion, it's major problem is that it got trolled real hard with that 98 Speed. I think that with two more points of speed (and maybe Nasty Plot for good measure, though I don't think it's essential,) Hydreigon could an extremely powerful threat in the metagame.

What if U-Turn had just 10 less base power? If it had only 60 base power, Scizor could wreak some serious havoc.

What if Raichu could also use the Light Ball?

What if Zekrom had Fusion Flare and Reshiram had Fusion Bolt?

Originally Posted by Angad

What if Zekrom had Fusion Flare and Reshiram had Fusion Bolt?

Then neither of them would get STAB? They would still, under this theory, get their second sig moves, right?

At any rate, with current Stat distributions, they probably wouldn't use either mive in sets as often. It might make a fun gimmick, but I don't see them getting the same amount of use, even if typing was switched to give stab, they would then have better options for STAB, like Reshiram would enjoy firing off Thunders a lot more, and Zekrom would enjoy flare blitz or fire punch. (note that I'm saying this under the idea that if types were swapped for STAB, and they were given moves like Thunder or Flare Blitz in their movepool, since that would be logical, as every electric type gets either Thunder or Discharge, as well as keeping their stat distribution the same)