Thread: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

Well, Payback could be more powerful against slower foes (lawl), and Low Sweep could be considered for its power (135 with STAB) and Speed-lowering effect.

Originally Posted by Mareepy

Thats why I say you don't need speed EV for Omaster, just HP and SP Atk, so that you can be fast and bulky at the same time. (You can even use a Speed hindering Natural in this case)

Oh, I see what you mean. That does sound pretty good, allowing him to have extra bulk and speed.

@Speed Boost Feraligatr

Yeah, I can see him outclassing Gyarados. Running Swords Dance with Speed Boost would be sweet!

@SharKing;

What if Sharpedo got Shell Smash and Icicle Spear just like Cloyster?

It would probably have to force a switch to even get a chance to use Shell Smash, but it sure would appreciate the boosts; I'd EV it to outrun Choice Scarf Latios after a boost. (Well, in OU.) Icicle Spear probably wouldn't be that big a deal, since it doesn't have Skill Link. If it did, though, it'd be awesome.

Of course, Shell Smash would be a little out of context since Sharpedo doesn't have a shell. XD

Which ability would benefit Archeops more: Rock Head or Unburden?

I would think Rock Head, all thanks to that Head Smash. A recoil-less move with 225 power (STAB) coming off that terrifying Attack stat? Do want! Unburden would be cool for a Flying Gem + Arcobatics set, but I'd prefer to have a Rock Header using a Choice Scarf to outrun practically anything and HEAD SMASH EVERYTHING!!!

Originally Posted by SharKing

I would think Rock Head, all thanks to that Head Smash. A recoil-less move with 225 power (STAB) coming off that terrifying Attack stat? Do want! Unburden would be cool for a Flying Gem + Arcobatics set, but I'd prefer to have a Rock Header using a Choice Scarf to outrun practically anything and HEAD SMASH EVERYTHING!!!

Furthermore, Archeops has a Base Speed of 110 (which caps at 350 with full investment.) Much like with Sceptile, Unburden would be a good, but almost unnecessary ability for it.

After Speed Boost Pikachu, Unburden Omaster and Butterfree with Focus Balst and Air Slash, I would like to redeem more forgotten Pokemons. (Forgotten in Competitive Gameplay, No one will actually forget Pikachu)

Reckless Crobat with Brave Bird
Lightning Rod Pelipper
Huge Power Dodrio with Blaze Kick and Low Kick (It did have a long leg to kick)

Originally Posted by Saiga

Which ability would benefit Archeops more: Rock Head or Unburden?

The reason Archeops have Defeatist is almost the same as Slaking got Truant (Stat too high in comparison to other Pokemon)
If Archeops got Rock Head..... 379 Atk (I will got with Jolly so it get more Speed) and holding Choice Band with non-recoil Head Smash... Wow

Some of those suggestions aren't very plausible, or just really broken. I wouldn't mind seeing Focus Blast and Air Slash on Butterfree for some gimicky RUbsweeping sets

Originally Posted by Synthesis

Some of those suggestions aren't very plausible, or just really broken. I wouldn't mind seeing Focus Blast and Air Slash on Butterfree for some gimicky RUbsweeping sets

Which one aren't very plausible? I wanted to hear some opinion.

Originally Posted by Mareepy

Originally Posted by Synthesis

Some of those suggestions aren't very plausible, or just really broken. I wouldn't mind seeing Focus Blast and Air Slash on Butterfree for some gimicky RUbsweeping sets

Which one aren't very plausible? I wanted to hear some opinion.

Lightning Rod Pelliper and Huge Power Dodrio. I don't see how Pelliper would have LR, but it'd be a better defensive Pokemon for sure. Huge Power Dodrio is pretty broken. It's already fast and has fairly high Attack. Azumarill is a huge force in Rain teams and its Attack and Speed are much worse than Dodrio's

Originally Posted by Synthesis

Lightning Rod Pelliper and Huge Power Dodrio. I don't see how Pelliper would have LR, but it'd be a better defensive Pokemon for sure. Huge Power Dodrio is pretty broken. It's already fast and has fairly high Attack. Azumarill is a huge force in Rain teams and its Attack and Speed are much worse than Dodrio's

Yeah, the 4* Electric weakness is making this good Defensive Pokemon almost disappear in the competitive gameplay.
About the Dodrio.. How about just getting Blaze Kick and Low Kick for coverage without Huge Power? It has a very poor coverage that made it disappear in competitive gameplay too.

Originally Posted by Mareepy

Originally Posted by Synthesis

Lightning Rod Pelliper and Huge Power Dodrio. I don't see how Pelliper would have LR, but it'd be a better defensive Pokemon for sure. Huge Power Dodrio is pretty broken. It's already fast and has fairly high Attack. Azumarill is a huge force in Rain teams and its Attack and Speed are much worse than Dodrio's

Yeah, the 4* Electric weakness is making this good Defensive Pokemon almost disappear in the competitive gameplay.
About the Dodrio.. How about just getting Blaze Kick and Low Kick for coverage without Huge Power? It has a very poor coverage that made it disappear in competitive gameplay too.

A scarf Pelliper set in Rain would be pretty cool to see if it got Lightning Rod. And it could be a pretty decent check to annoying things on Rain teams.

Dodrio faces stiff competition from Swellow and Staraptor and is overshadowed by them to some extent. Low Kick and Blaze Kick would help the abysmal movepool though, and beat stuff like Aggron and Ferroseed that wall it

Originally Posted by Angad

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

What if Conkeldurr got Techition?

Mach Punch is the only move I know of that is considerably effected.

It may be the only notable move but its one hell of an important one. That would definitely cement conky's place in OU.

Originally Posted by Mareepy

Originally Posted by Saiga

Which ability would benefit Archeops more: Rock Head or Unburden?

The reason Archeops have Defeatist is almost the same as Slaking got Truant (Stat too high in comparison to other Pokemon)
If Archeops got Rock Head..... 379 Atk (I will got with Jolly so it get more Speed) and holding Choice Band with non-recoil Head Smash... Wow

Slaking and Archeops are actually quite different. Slaking has a BST of 670, while most Legendaries have BSTs of ranging from 580-680. Archeops has a BST of 567, putting him behind the Legendaries and Pseudo-Legendaries, so he's most certainly not broken. His high offensive stats are balance by terrible defensive stats, and he's weak to two forms of priority attacks (Aqua Jet and Ice Shard).