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Wat if Shadow Tag Chandelure have Quiver Dance?
My own Answer: Then the whole metagame will become offensive and defensive Pokemons will be dumped into the rubbish bin.
It comes out and trap a Ferrothorn without Bulldoze and its game over or it comes out to trap a Scarfed Fighting/Normal move and its game over.
Especially Blissey, the said counter to SP Attack is going to be killed by a SP Attacking Ghost. As most set have only Flamethrower to deal with Scizor and Seismic Toss as their attacking move, after sub moves like Thunderwave is useless. After 6 boosts, Chandelure is going to kill Blissey with no problem, as it can be Modest because most Defensive Pokemon is slow.
This isn't Balanced hackmons, that every single Pokemon can get butterfly dance..
In the dream world, people use shed shell to protect their ferrothorn and blisseys from chandy.
@Angad;
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I'd like to call it Articunowned,
lol, one of these days, I'm going to steal your brain and get all these jokes from you.
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What if Charizard was not totally neglected as the mad killer he is? (Thought I'd throw that out there.)
I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean.
Probably another "Charizard is good" statement.
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What if Serperior could learn Baton Pass? How would Coil on Overgrow sets or Sp.Atk boosts from Contrary Leaf Storm benefit other Pokemon?
Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?
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Bouffalant Herdier
What if Serperior could learn Baton Pass? How would Coil on Overgrow sets or Sp.Atk boosts from Contrary Leaf Storm benefit other Pokemon?
It would be effective, but pushed out really quickly by its usual counters.
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Agreeing there. It's mediocre versatility would mean it definitely becomes more effective but not able to do anything new. The move would probably get shoved onto the end of sets since it has a terrible movepool.
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What if Entei could have Sheer Force? Would it be more useable then?
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What if Entei could have Sheer Force? Would it be more useable then?
Eh, it'd be like Darmanitan without the good moves.
Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?
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Angad
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What if Entei could have Sheer Force? Would it be more useable then?
Eh, it'd be like Darmanitan without the good moves.
Not exactly, Entei does has usable Special Attack and Calm Mind, so with Sheer Force its special STABs are coming off the equivalent of a 131 SAtk, though coverage is still an issue. I reckon that combination of bulk, speed and power would probably be enough for it to to see use in UU over Chandy and Houndoom. Recoil-less Life Orb is always welcome on a bulky offensive Pokemon.
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Winterdaze
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Angad
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Enzap
What if Entei could have Sheer Force? Would it be more useable then?
Eh, it'd be like Darmanitan without the good moves.
Not exactly, Entei does has usable Special Attack and Calm Mind, so with Sheer Force its special STABs are coming off the equivalent of a 131 SAtk, though coverage is still an issue. I reckon that combination of bulk, speed and power would probably be enough for it to to see use in UU over Chandy and Houndoom. Recoil-less Life Orb is always welcome on a bulky offensive Pokemon.
Fair enough, I don't know its exact special coverage, though.
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Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Extrasensory, and Hidden Power. That's pretty much it.
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Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Extrasensory, and Hidden Power. That's pretty much it.
CoughEruptionCough
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CoughEruptionCough
Sheer Force boosted Fire Blast out-damages Eruption anyway. Shadow Ball is really the only other move of note in Entei's movepuddle, hitting Slowbro and Chandelure.
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Let's say Sheer Force got extended to the other legendary dogs, too. What would come from it?
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Winterdaze
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Pikmin1211
CoughEruptionCough
Sheer Force boosted Fire Blast out-damages Eruption anyway. Shadow Ball is really the only other move of note in Entei's movepuddle, hitting Slowbro and Chandelure.
What about Flare Blitz? I mean, Flare Blitz would be dangous considering Entei's already high Attack stat.
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Shiny Shinx
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Winterdaze
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Pikmin1211
CoughEruptionCough
Sheer Force boosted Fire Blast out-damages Eruption anyway. Shadow Ball is really the only other move of note in Entei's movepuddle, hitting Slowbro and Chandelure.
What about Flare Blitz? I mean, Flare Blitz would be dangous considering Entei's already high Attack stat.
Flare Blitz came from an event for Entei, this is assuming that Entei wouldn't be getting it again.
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Angad
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Shiny Shinx
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Winterdaze
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Pikmin1211
CoughEruptionCough
Sheer Force boosted Fire Blast out-damages Eruption anyway. Shadow Ball is really the only other move of note in Entei's movepuddle, hitting Slowbro and Chandelure.
What about Flare Blitz? I mean, Flare Blitz would be dangous considering Entei's already high Attack stat.
Flare Blitz came from an event for Entei, this is assuming that Entei wouldn't be getting it again.
We can always assume since this entire thread is about assuming, lol. TBH, it would just be an inferior Darmanitan.