Thread: Rate my VGC12 Team!

Swampert@Choice Band
Torrent
172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe
Adamant
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Earth Power

Swampert is my lead, and physical sweeper. It is paired with Salamence so it can us earthquake
without team damage. Swampert will mainly use Earth power and waterfall.

Salamence@Life Orb
Intimidate
252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Salamence is another physical sweeper. It will mainly use Dragon claw, which with STAB has 120 BP,

Reuniclus@Life Orb
Magic Guard
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Psychic
- Focus Blast

Reuniclus is a Special Sweeper, Magic Guard allows him to ignore Spikes/Weather, And Psychic with STAB has 135 BP.

Meinshao@Life Orb
Regenerator
252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive
- Hi Jump Kick
- U-turn
- Hidden Power Ice
- Fake Out

Mienshao is as Physical sweeper, it will use U-turn to attack, and regenerator will let it regain hp every time I use u-turn.


Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ablity: Sturdy
Evs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 140 Def / 20 Spd
Impish
- Spikes
- Drill Peck
- Whirlwind
- Roost

Skarmory is my Spiker/Physical Wall, it also has whirlwind to escape from magnet pull.

Scizor @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spd
Naughty
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Pursuit

Scizor is a physical sweeper, it will mainly use Bug Bite.

Why does Swampert have Earth Power on an Adamant Choice Band set? Earth Power is a special move, not a physical one and as such won't do a lot of damage.

Meant earthquake

You can't have done. You already have earthquake.

I'm not a competitive battler by any means but I noticed that as an immediate problem. Hidden Power Ice on Mienshao seems weird. And in theory Scizor's main move would be anything but Bug Bite on that moveset. And would fire blast be any use on that Salamence?

Originally Posted by a0161613

You can't have done. You already have earthquake.

I'm not a competitive battler by any means but I noticed that as an immediate problem. Hidden Power Ice on Mienshao seems weird. And in theory Scizor's main move would be anything but Bug Bite on that moveset. And would fire blast be any use on that Salamence?

hp ice meinshao is used to take down gliscor.
fire blast on salamence is for steel types.
Bug bite is scizor's most powerful move.

Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete

Originally Posted by a0161613

You can't have done. You already have earthquake.

I'm not a competitive battler by any means but I noticed that as an immediate problem. Hidden Power Ice on Mienshao seems weird. And in theory Scizor's main move would be anything but Bug Bite on that moveset. And would fire blast be any use on that Salamence?

hp ice meinshao is used to take down gliscor.
fire blast on salamence is for steel types.
Bug bite is scizor's most powerful move.

Wouldn't ice punch be better for the meinshao? And wouldn't flamethrower be almost as good as fire blast given the accuracy? And while Bug Bite is useful, isn't it situational with Pursuit, U Turn and Bullet Punch in the same set? Bug Bite shouldn't necessarily be the go-to move.

Originally Posted by a0161613

Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete

Originally Posted by a0161613

You can't have done. You already have earthquake.

I'm not a competitive battler by any means but I noticed that as an immediate problem. Hidden Power Ice on Mienshao seems weird. And in theory Scizor's main move would be anything but Bug Bite on that moveset. And would fire blast be any use on that Salamence?

hp ice meinshao is used to take down gliscor.
fire blast on salamence is for steel types.
Bug bite is scizor's most powerful move.

Wouldn't ice punch be better for the meinshao? And wouldn't flamethrower be almost as good as fire blast given the accuracy? And while Bug Bite is useful, isn't it situational with Pursuit, U Turn and Bullet Punch in the same set? Bug Bite shouldn't necessarily be the go-to move.

mienshao doesn't learn ice punch while fire blast >> flamethrower.

In that case, would another fighting type be able to replace that set to the same effect?

I'd suggest taking a look at Smogon's VGC 2012 analyses for Pokemon and moveset ideas. Your team in its current state is much better suited for singles play than it is for doubles.

Also, quick tip: Don't use hazard-based support Pokemon like Skarmory in VGC. There isn't usually enough switching to take advantage of entry hazards in this format.

Originally Posted by a0161613

Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete

Originally Posted by a0161613

You can't have done. You already have earthquake.

I'm not a competitive battler by any means but I noticed that as an immediate problem. Hidden Power Ice on Mienshao seems weird. And in theory Scizor's main move would be anything but Bug Bite on that moveset. And would fire blast be any use on that Salamence?

hp ice meinshao is used to take down gliscor.
fire blast on salamence is for steel types.
Bug bite is scizor's most powerful move.

Wouldn't ice punch be better for the meinshao? And wouldn't flamethrower be almost as good as fire blast given the accuracy? And while Bug Bite is useful, isn't it situational with Pursuit, U Turn and Bullet Punch in the same set? Bug Bite shouldn't necessarily be the go-to move.

Bug bite with STAB and technician is stronger than u-turn even. Plus, it does not hurt to eat a berry from time to time, especially if its crucial on a certain pokemon.

Originally Posted by a0161613

In that case, would another fighting type be able to replace that set to the same effect?

no. i don't think there is any other fighting type who is fast, hits hard and has fake out.