Milotic is the member I am talking about, it's outclassed by a lot of pokemon.
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Milotic is the member I am talking about, it's outclassed by a lot of pokemon.
To be fair, I don't intend to become some sort of competitive battling champion. I try to be realistic, but I also like to use Pokemon I actually like. I suppose is doesn't matter if my Pokemon of choice aren't up to scratch to start with. Never mind, thanks anyway. ^^'
Don't worry about it. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. You may what to try it as a pivot on an offensive team, maybe even Sunny Day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuuro
Hmm... Well, I had been considering using Blastoise but I'd settled on Milotic. Would that be any better? If not I'll see what I can do with what you've already told me.
Just with Milotic, many water types outclass in many aspects. Azumarill, Vaporeon, Rotom-W, and Suicune all hit harder. And the Latter three are bulkier, and all have a niche they could use, Vaporeon can use HydraRest or provide team support, Rotom-W has only one weakness with good stabs, Suicune has great defensive stats. Azumarill has a great niche as a revenge killer. The only benefit that Milotic has is a one turn recovery that works outside of rain, but even then, it's not that useful of a niche. Blastoise could rapid spin, but otherwise, it's not that great.
Ah, okay. Thank you very much nonetheless. A bit more knowledge gained, at least! I'll take that into consideration as well.
allright, i have a salamence with dd, dclaw, fireblast, earthquake and cb scizor..
Now i have hit a roadblock and would appreciate help..
Thinking of putting starmie but suggestions for the last four slots are welcome..
Before I get to suggestions, answer me this: Is this a Gen. V team?
I'm pretty sure it would be, considering Salamence being banned in Gen 4.
Yep, it is..Quote:
Originally Posted by SharKing
And another clarification,about why i am using cb scizor..
It is u-turn, which i find immensely useful..
Do you have pokemon in general that you like using?
Alright i have decided to put in gliscor, ferrothorn and jellicent to sponge attacks, while conkeldurr and scizor will be my offensive core..Quote:
Originally Posted by Angad
The last choice is between starmie(as a spinner and to destroy gliscor), vaporeon(Wish + Destroy gliscor with surf) or salamence(my weapon of choice against stall)..
So, I'm making a team, no competive, just for fun.
Swords Dancing Scizor. (EVs in Attack and Speed, cause I planned on using Scyther, will fix later.) It'll be my lead.
Sp. Sweeper Lapras ( EVs in Sp ATK and Defense.) Not much to say, it has a Wide Lens for Hydropump and Sing.
Sp. Sweeper Espeon ( EVs in Sp ATK and Speed.) If Lapras fails, Espeon comes it with HP Grass, Shadowball and Psychic, Choic Specs too.
Toxic Stall Umbreon (Defense and Sp. Defense) Leftovers, toxic, moonlight, confuse ray.
Any pokemon I should add?
I have been frustrated trying to figure out a final member for my team. To start off I knew I wanted to base the team around Scrafty so I went with the bulk up set because it plays to his strengths (defensive boosting).
Scrafty @ leftovers, shed skin
Careful, 252 HP / 8 Atk / 248 SpDef
Bulk up / Drain punch / Crunch / Rest
I normally aim for him to be my late game sweeper, trying to get his counters out of the way first. Of course I am still new to the competitive battling scene so my skills there need some work, but he is my favorite Pokemon and a reliable one too. Just a note, the 8 attack EVs are because I read on smogon that the extra point maximizes the boosts you receive from bulk up.
Now Scrafty only has two weaknesses, and one is far more common than the other. Enter Sigilyph, a member who has proven his worth time and time again. He has quickly become my third favorite Pokemon (number 2 is next).
Sigilyph @ flame orb, magic guard
Timid, 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Speed
Roost / Cosmic power / Stored power / Psycho shift
I originally chose this set because I not only wanted to counter fighting types, I wanted to burn physical attackers to make it easier for Scrafty to get boosts. I originally ran calm mind for the added power to stored power, but found I rarely attack with this beast so I went for the more defensive boosting move.
With those two I needed something to handle possible flying attacks while keeping in mind all the other set up threats I needed to watch out for such as Excadrill and Thundrus. I found the perfect candidate in my second favorite Pokemon.
Quagsire @ leftovers, unaware
Careful, 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDef
Curse / Recover / Earthquake / Waterfall
I can't tell you how many people seem to be (pardon the pun) unaware of Quagsire's ability. He gets so much time to set up it's ridiculous. He laughs at everything that sets up and has excellent synergy with Scrafty and Sigilyph.
Sigilyph can take Quagsire's only weakness, grass, while Quagsire is immune to thunderbolt and with his heavy special defense investment he often doesn't care about ice beam either. Sigilyph takes Scrafty's fighting weakness and Scrafty takes dark type moves aimed at Sigilyph like a champ. And finally, Quagsire can take on those who try to set up and any flying type attacks that might come my way. This core has proven to be very solid. With a well functioning core I decided to bring in Ferrothorn because I actually like his design and figure since he fits so well onto so many teams I would give him a shot.
Ferrothorn @ leftovers, iron barbs
Relaxed, 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 SpDef
Spikes / Leech seed / Power whip / Gyro ball
What do you know, he fits wonderfully. I seem to switch around a lot and the additional entry hazards and possible leech seed recovery really help. For those of you in the know, I have pretty much been lifting sets directly from smogon which helps explain the EVs. I haven't the experience nor have I done the research to determine if this is the best EV spread for him, but in the battles I have fought it has worked decently. If you have a suggestion for something that might work better, please don't hold back.
Now having gotten such a defensive thing going, I decided that I needed stealth rock. I was lacking speed at this point so I wanted my stealth rock user to be faster and able to hit decently hard.
Infernape @ life orb, blaze
Naive, 252 Atk / 4 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Overheat / Close combat / U-turn / Stealth rock
To be completely honest he doesn't always actually get up stealth rock. I keep finding myself leading off with him and U-turning out without setting the rocks. Its not really a problem since he can often times return later to set them, but he is so fragile compared to everything else that he has difficulty finding a time to come in. I feel like something like Metagross might fit better, but Infernape brings a lot to the table so I've found it hard to seriously consider replacing him.
So there are the five current members of my team. I would say the team is semi-competitive because I am using Pokemon I like, but I already know that how well a Pokemon performs influences how much I like it. I should say here that I plan on making this team in game for my use and I don't have access to some things like Heatran or Jirachi, so please don't suggest those unless you have the means to get me a legit one.
I have noticed that Quagsire doesn't like toxic spikes very much so I have considered a rapid spinner. I also can have some trouble with Gyarados. Excadrill and Gliscor can be a pain if I lose Quagsire, so an additional check to them has been something I have been keeping in mind as well. I really liked the idea of using Amoonguss, but he only fits with his unreleased dream world ability. Without it I decided against him.
So with my team on the table, what should my last Pokemon be?
@ipwnedurface
Which gen team is this?
@Bobby's Pants
U might want to consider starmie as a rapid spinner and also as a conkeldurr counter(if u use psychic).
Also if u want to use nape as stealth rock set-upper, put him as a lead with focus sash and fake out + taunt..
However, this is very difficult to pull out in the 5th gen, so u may consider changing his role.