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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

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    I'd never say any mon is too frail to use a setup move, it just needs to come in on something they scare out (Mienshao comes in on Blissey/Chansey for example) and they have a free turn to set up. That said, Mienshao has another problem with DD anyway, that being setup's wonderful synergy with Regenerator. I was just after another example in a pinch.
    There's the issue of prediction as well. If something comes in on my Blissey that I know is a set-up sweeper, and I know that they come in on Blissey expecting to set up, I'll throw a Toxic on it, and with Toxic damage racking up over a couple of turns, I doubt it would withstand a hit from common priority users like Breloom.
    Or God forbid, blissey using t-wave on the switch. However dd baton pass might work in the lower tiers.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What if type resist berries activated on any hit from that type, not just Super Effective ones? I could see Haban Berry gaining some niche popularity, as it would allow a much greater number of mons act as lures or even counters to Dragon types.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    It's certainly viable; the Chilan Berry already does it (though that's likely because Normal is super effective against... nothing).
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    I don't remember if this has been mentioned before, but what if Sceptile got access to Nasty Plot and Earth Power? Might that be what it needs to get catapulted into UU or even OU? How would this change affect the way Sceptile is played? [Insert other relevant questions here.]
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    I can't see it being banned in UU because plenty of stuff can revenge it. It also wouldn't see enough OU usage to move up either since it struggles to get past common threats on almost all common teams.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What if Electivire and Magmortar were to gain the Fighting and Psychic types respectivly?
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    It would improve Electrive by giving it STAB Cross Chop and a stealth rock resistance whilst Magmorter would get worse since Psychic is bad STAB and even worse defensively.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Ok. Oh, Sceptile and Serperior getting a secondary Dragon type?
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Serperior with Dragon type = Draco Meteor Contrary 0-0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pikmin1211 View Post
    Serperior with Dragon type = Draco Meteor Contrary 0-0
    *Imagines a Specs Contrary Serperior with DM, shudders as a result*

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    For that matter, Grass/Dragon Meganium with Dragon Pulse and Dragon Claw (as well as DM, obviously.) What would that be like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer View Post
    For that matter, Grass/Dragon Meganium with Dragon Pulse and Dragon Claw (as well as DM, obviously.) What would that be like?
    Meganium's decent defences would work well with those double resistances to Water, Electric, and Grass. Steel types would still wall it without HP Fire though.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer View Post
    For that matter, Grass/Dragon Meganium with Dragon Pulse and Dragon Claw (as well as DM, obviously.) What would that be like?
    The defensive typing is certainly better in certain ways, especially with that double resistances and lack of Fire weakness. Sounds like it could work in a Rain team because of Water-type's weakness, but I felt that Meganium's real weakness to Ice attacks will prove to be a problem since most Water-types can learn Ice attacks. Dragons are generally faster (unless you are talking about Druddigon and Altaria), so they could be problematic as well.

    Still, when looking at this, I thought of a Swords Dance set utilising Seed Bomb, Earthquake and Dragon Claw as attacks. Could work, but only if you know your opponent doesn't have anything else to back them up. Of course, Draco Meteor is a nice blowing attack on a support set, I guess. I would also guess that Keldeo without HP-Ice isn't going to appreciate part-Dragon Meganium around (resists Water, but I am not sure if Secret Sword is lethal).

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    I'm not done with would-be Dragons yet! Now, what if Yanmega were Bug/Dragon? I personally think a Tinted Lens Draco Meteor would really sting those Steel switch ins. Would this be what the dragonfly needs to get into a higher tier?
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What if charizard was dragon/fire? Talk about better defensive typing, not to mention decent movepool and stats. I'd put him in at least UU.
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