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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    i'm sure that that's been mentioned.


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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Did a quick search and couldn't find anything...

    Several of the Ghost types have access to Electric moves. If Chandelure got either Thunderbolt or Thunder(!) do you think it would be even more feared than it is already with Shadow Tag as an ability? Especially with Drizzle being common?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iteru View Post
    Did a quick search and couldn't find anything...

    Several of the Ghost types have access to Electric moves. If Chandelure got either Thunderbolt or Thunder(!) do you think it would be even more feared than it is already with Shadow Tag as an ability? Especially with Drizzle being common?
    I'm not sure Chandelure would be a top pick for a Drizzle team even with T-Bolt/Thunder. Rain still hinders one of its main STABs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grass Type Trainer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Iteru View Post
    Did a quick search and couldn't find anything...

    Several of the Ghost types have access to Electric moves. If Chandelure got either Thunderbolt or Thunder(!) do you think it would be even more feared than it is already with Shadow Tag as an ability? Especially with Drizzle being common?
    I'm not sure Chandelure would be a top pick for a Drizzle team even with T-Bolt/Thunder. Rain still hinders one of its main STABs.
    I was thinking more as a way to counter said teams on the switch in. Energy Ball is great for it but it's base 80 power isn't always enough, in my opinion.

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    Kyurem with Fusion Flare. That's ALL I need it to have.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What do you think about Recover on Cofagrigus? It already has a unique niche among defensive Ghost types with Mummy and Haze, to go with the usual Ghost fare like Disable and Will-O-Wisp. Unfortunately the current lack of reliable recovery (not even Pain Split!) is pretty disappointing.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    It would certainly be an interesting set on Cofagrigus and he may go up as a spinblocker. I remember seeing Cofagrigus and I wondered what would have happened if Cofagrigus ended up being Ghost and Steel.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What if Aggron was Dragon/Steel?

    Oh, no STAB Head Smash :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzle View Post
    What if Aggron was Dragon/Steel?

    Oh, no STAB Head Smash :/
    It would be OU, i think. Dragon Stab is always good and Dragon steel is a good typing. It has a massive def and high attack. It would be used as an anti-dragon, that is, it would try to sponge a attack from d-nite or something and do some serious damage back. It would be even better with recovery.

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    Can you please slightly expand on your thunderbolt on litwick idea, if you don't mind? It arouses my curiosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete View Post
    @Iteru

    Can you please slightly expand on your thunderbolt on litwick idea, if you don't mind? It arouses my curiosity.
    Sure. This would be assuming you'd be using Chandelure in OU.

    Naturally STAB Fire Blasts are one of the things you'd want to be throwing out for massive damage. Switching in Drizzle Politoed or a Water type that can take the hit would be a good counter/check. If you could predict the Politoed coming in and hit with Thunderbolt/Thunder, then you'd be doing a lot more damage than Energy Ball would and in the case of Thunder, punish them throughout the match for bringing rain in.

    Of course, using Thunderbolt/Thunder means it has to sacrifice coverage elsewhere.

    It could be even better with Shadow Tag. Switching in a Politoed, taking a Thunder on the switch in and not being able to switchout could make Chandelure a decent lure against it.

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    I'm not sure if this belongs here because it's not really change I'm adding to a certain Pokemon, but I'm not sure this merits its own thread either. Meh, I'll post it and the mods can tell me where it belongs once they read it.

    What if all legendary Pokemon, from Articuno to Genesect and everything in between, were banned to Uber. That is to say, no tier OU and below has access to any legendary Pokemon whatsoever. How would this affect the metagame? Would Hydreigon see a rise now that Latias and Latios are banned? Would sand see a drop without Terrakion or Landorus around? How would the metagame change if it didn't have access to Jirachi, Celebi or Heatran?

    In the lower tiers, would Charizard rise in popularity if Moltres was banned? How would NU deal with the birds without Regirock? Etc, etc, etc.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    It would be very interesting indeed. Rain would certainly lose a few assets.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iteru View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete View Post
    @Iteru

    Can you please slightly expand on your thunderbolt on litwick idea, if you don't mind? It arouses my curiosity.
    Sure. This would be assuming you'd be using Chandelure in OU.

    Naturally STAB Fire Blasts are one of the things you'd want to be throwing out for massive damage. Switching in Drizzle Politoed or a Water type that can take the hit would be a good counter/check. If you could predict the Politoed coming in and hit with Thunderbolt/Thunder, then you'd be doing a lot more damage than Energy Ball would and in the case of Thunder, punish them throughout the match for bringing rain in.

    Of course, using Thunderbolt/Thunder means it has to sacrifice coverage elsewhere.

    It could be even better with Shadow Tag. Switching in a Politoed, taking a Thunder on the switch in and not being able to switchout could make Chandelure a decent lure against it.
    hmm, i am not sure whether that would really make chandelure a good lure. Chandelure still can't deal with t-tar and it has energy ball and yet it only works as a semi decent lure due to its weaknesses and spikes problem. One great lure would actually be Rotom-h. It has volt-switch for a predicted politoed switch in. So you can just keep volt-switching to ninetails to grab the weather back.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What if Hydreigon had 105 base speed, making it faster than the likes of Garchomp and Salamence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bouffalant Herdier View Post
    What if Hydreigon had 105 base speed, making it faster than the likes of Garchomp and Salamence?
    Yeah, they should have exchanged its attack and speed. In any case, it would be a premier scarfer seeing that it can revenge-kill landorus, +1 mence, etc.
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