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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    @Blitzle You mean Head Smash? That'd be lethal in a Hone Claws set, what with the then-fixed accuracy; then you have a drawback-free wrecking ball of a Rock STAB. Brave Bird would also destroy things left and right.

    Here's the set in my head:


    Jolly / Life Orb, Leftovers, Lum Berry, or Babiri/Passho Berry / Rock Head
    252 Attack / 4 Defense / 252 Speed
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    - Brave Bird
    - Earthquake

    Blindingly fast with 394 Speed and razor-sharp with 463 Attack after one Hone Claws (601 with Life Orb) and STABs packing 225 and 180 power respectively, this thing will tear opponents apart in the blink of an eye when set up. Both STABs are resisted by Steel-types, with Earthquake does a good job covering. The list of item choices is actually pretty wide. Life Orb grants a substantial power boost, Leftovers increases longevity (especially with the Sandstorm immunity), Lum Berry foils a status attack, and Babiri/Passho Berries allow it to survive one of two nasty priority attacks: Bullet Punch and Aqua Jet, respectively.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Quote Originally Posted by General Volcano View Post
    It would automatically morph into the opponent it's facing & still have that INCREDIBLE amout of HP.

    Just think of what it'd be like if it morphs into a defensive pokemon...
    In my opinion I don't think it would work out too well because then Blissey is prone to status (especially Toxic) and thus an element of her usefullness as a Wall is gone. You couldn't even run Heal Bell either to cover it on the Blissey itself to make up for losing Nature Cure as it will transform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scary Fish View Post
    @Blitzle You mean Head Smash? That'd be lethal in a Hone Claws set, what with the then-fixed accuracy; then you have a drawback-free wrecking ball of a Rock STAB. Brave Bird would also destroy things left and right.

    Here's the set in my head:


    Jolly / Life Orb, Leftovers, Lum Berry, or Babiri/Passho Berry / Rock Head
    252 Attack / 4 Defense / 252 Speed
    - Hone Claws
    - Head Smash
    - Brave Bird
    - Earthquake

    Blindingly fast with 394 Speed and razor-sharp with 463 Attack after one Hone Claws (601 with Life Orb) and STABs packing 225 and 180 power respectively, this thing will tear opponents apart in the blink of an eye when set up. Both STABs are resisted by Steel-types, with Earthquake does a good job covering. The list of item choices is actually pretty wide. Life Orb grants a substantial power boost, Leftovers increases longevity (especially with the Sandstorm immunity), Lum Berry foils a status attack, and Babiri/Passho Berries allow it to survive one of two nasty priority attacks: Bullet Punch and Aqua Jet, respectively.
    Derp. Yeah, I meant Head Smash not Rock Head. :p

    I think it would be pretty great all-in-all. Like you said, Aero is fast, and it would hit really hard.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    It's a shame no Pokemon over 100 base speed receives Moxie: Infernape and Weavile would've benefitted hugely from it.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Infernape with Moxie. Close Combat snowball sweep, anyone? XD
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    that would be rediculous. and victini needed contrary. v-create boosts your stats >:D unfreakin stoppable

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    What if Bouffalant could learn ExtremeSpeed?

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    It already has Swords Dance. Yeesh, ExtremeKiller Bouffalant. Easy OU. XD
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    I doubt it would make OU. Take a look at poor neglected Linoone

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    I doubt it would make OU. Take a look at poor neglected Linoone
    linoone?

    linoone?!

    that thing is frail as hell. not to mention how it requires belly drum to do anything useful!
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Quote Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    I doubt it would make OU. Take a look at poor neglected Linoone
    linoone?

    linoone?!

    that thing is frail as hell. not to mention how it requires belly drum to do anything useful!
    Not to mention it's so predictable. But a Banded Switcheroo set might work... Maybe.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Dewgong (I'll give you a few minutes to stop laughing :P) has access to Encore + Disable. While this would likely be better in DP where Encore last longer, would Shadow Tag as an ability be enough to raise it out of NU? The idea is that the opponent is forced to keep using their Disabled move, and thus Struggle to death with no escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iteru View Post
    Dewgong (I'll give you a few minutes to stop laughing :P) has access to Encore + Disable. While this would likely be better in DP where Encore last longer, would Shadow Tag as an ability be enough to raise it out of NU? The idea is that the opponent is forced to keep using their Disabled move, and thus Struggle to death with no escape.
    Anything with Shadow tag will come out of NU, always. That said, the main problem that using encore+disable will be be dewgong's low speed and average bulk. Your opponent will have hit you atleast twice before this can be pulled off.

    However, if dewgong does get shadow tag, the deadliest combination would be perish song + shadow tag.
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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    Quote Originally Posted by CommandurrClowncrete View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Iteru View Post
    Dewgong (I'll give you a few minutes to stop laughing :P) has access to Encore + Disable. While this would likely be better in DP where Encore last longer, would Shadow Tag as an ability be enough to raise it out of NU? The idea is that the opponent is forced to keep using their Disabled move, and thus Struggle to death with no escape.
    Anything with Shadow tag will come out of NU, always. That said, the main problem that using encore+disable will be be dewgong's low speed and average bulk. Your opponent will have hit you atleast twice before this can be pulled off.

    However, if dewgong does get shadow tag, the deadliest combination would be perish song + shadow tag.
    I'm pretty sure the goth thing has Shadow Tag and in NU.

    But yeah, it'd be a better Perish-trapper. Seel might work with Eviolite, but even if it does work and your opponent doesn't switch you'll have to take two attacks which Ice types can't take unless you predict flawlessly.

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    Default Re: Theorymonning: What if this Pokemon had...?

    I dunno why I didn't think of Perish Song or Seel. Seel is just pure Water and so the SR weakness is gone, but Chinchou and Ferroseed would still be able to counter it.

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