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    Default Re: Simple Questions and Answers Thread for BST! (Read First Post)

    I would say dont do that, since you are walled by all rock, steel, and ghost types. Just run the standard fake out/ u turn/ low kick, taunt (for a lead) or pursuit or pay back. Taunt is to stop leads from setting up SR or spikes, where as the dark type moves let it hit ghost types. Does it have technitian as an ability?
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    alright, so i have this idea in my head to use a sword dancing baton passing ninjask (i use ninjask mainly for speed, the added effect is amazing attak ups with swords dance + baton pass? SCORE) but i thought of what pokemon has really low speed and with sword dance spam, would be un-stoppable, i thought of snorlax, i wouldnt use the snorlax lvl 50 given to you (or battled) mid- gmae in the kanto region of HG SS, so i decied to breed itso i could have mroe control over a better moveset And i could EV train it, (b.c i like the idea of EV training low levels, so i breed one, it was munchlax (w/ full incese held by snorlax.) and i got a careful one, havent used it yet, but maybe i could breed for better neatures for the batlte-position im putting him in,
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    Snorlax (idk good nature) @ life orb
    -giga impact (give or take.)
    -thunder punch
    -outrage? (??? im just thinking of random moves know, arenet i?)
    -superpower (idk, this is why i need help with his moves)
    any help?

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    Default Re: Simple Questions and Answers Thread for BST! (Read First Post)

    No Giga Impact or Outrage. Giga is just a bad move because of the recharge and Outrage should never be used unless it gets STAB. If you're going to be baton passing speed you should probably use a Jolly nature with 252 attack EVs, 252 speed EVs, and 4 HP EVs.

    As for other moves, you could use Return for STAB, Earthquake, or Crunch.
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    Default Re: Simple Questions and Answers Thread for BST! (Read First Post)

    well, putting speed EV's is really pointless, it wont change the outcome of who strikes first,b/c snorlax max speed is 113, cant go any higher,so Even amount of def and hp EVs spread, so i he can take more hits with more health

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    well, putting speed EV's is really pointless, it wont change the outcome of who strikes first,b/c snorlax max speed is 113, cant go any higher,so Even amount of def and hp EVs spread, so i he can take more hits with more health
    But you're baton passing him speed boosts from Ninjask. Therefore you should invest in speed to get the most out of those boosts.
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    You know, I actually played around with a BP chain like this a while back. I think you should go withÑ
    Earthquake
    Fire Punch
    Body Slam/Return
    Crunch

    It works ridiculously well, since after 3 shots of Speed Boosts and one SD, with a Jolly Nature, Snorlax can usually outspeed and KO most of it's threats. SLap down Toxic Spikes support and Stealth Rock though, to beat opposing Snorlax's and Blisseys faster.

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    so you're saying if i were to EV train my ninjask in full speed and attack, i would have to do the same just to get a better outcome?
    wouldnt the ninjask's speed be enough alone? and i could you use my lead (azelf) to set spikes and stealth rocks, than swith to ninjask (possibly after azelf has done his work, maybe explosion just to get rid of the poekmon facing it +free swap pokemon, which i than switch in ninjask and basicclly:
    Ninjask used agility! (speed +)
    Ninjask used agility! (speed +)
    Ninjask used agility! (speed +)
    Ninjask used swords dance (attack +)
    ninjask used baton pass! pass onto snorlax than i have snorlax wreck the team with its current conidtion? awesome,

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    Ninjask gets destroyed by stealth rock and should only be used as a lead.
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    Default Re: Simple Questions and Answers Thread for BST! (Read First Post)

    I appreciate the advice, but that doesn't he'll in my strategies?

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    A baton pass-receiving Snorlax seems like too much of a gimmick to be effective. If you want to use Snorlax offensively, you're better of using a Curselax or a CB set. Neither is extremely effective in today's metagame filled with fighting types, but both sets do have their uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aco View Post
    so you're saying if i were to EV train my ninjask in full speed and attack, i would have to do the same just to get a better outcome?
    wouldnt the ninjask's speed be enough alone? and i could you use my lead (azelf) to set spikes and stealth rocks, than swith to ninjask (possibly after azelf has done his work, maybe explosion just to get rid of the poekmon facing it +free swap pokemon, which i than switch in ninjask and basicclly:
    Ninjask used agility! (speed +)
    Ninjask used agility! (speed +)
    Ninjask used agility! (speed +)
    Ninjask used swords dance (attack +)
    ninjask used baton pass! pass onto snorlax than i have snorlax wreck the team with its current conidtion? awesome,
    First of all, you;re forgetting about Speed Boost. And no, it'd be more like
    Ninjask used Protect!
    Ninjask protected itself.
    ninjask used Swords Dance!
    Ninjask hung on using it's Focus Sash!
    Ninjask used Baton Pass!
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    I am going to ev train a qwilfish, and I have the option of giving it either spikes or toxic spikes. as they are both equally good moves, I would like you other people to help me decide which one would be better used on a qwilfish, spikes, or toxic spikes?
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    Default Re: The debatable moves...

    I'd personally go for Toxic Spikes, but then again, Spikes guarantees damage when a foe is switched in, whereas if it's Toxic Spikes, they may be holding a Pecha/Lum Berry (a problem I had with Ice Fang on Whitney's Miltank, but that's a story for another day).
    But yeah, there are more items that don't prevent poison than do, so I'd pick T Spikes. The only dangers are Berries and a pokemon with an ability like Poison Heal (damn Brelooms and their cheatingness...)
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    Default Re: The debatable moves...

    Spikes since they also affect Steel types. Toxic spikes also get absorbed by any toxic types to enter the field.

    With the frequent switching of pokemon the poison/toxic damage is almost neglect-able.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions and Answers Thread for BST! (Read First Post)

    Can anybody help with a dragon dance bagon and a fake out skitty? The bagon being modest, but let us assume a better nature, cause' I will be breeding until I get the adamant one, and fake out skitty is bashful

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