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    Hey guys! I made my first competitive team and I was wondering if I could have some feedback. :)

    Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Sp. Atk / 252 Spd
    Nature: Naive
    - Overheat
    - Close Combat
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge

    This guy is my lead and my Mixed Sweeper. I can use Overheat or Close Combat to deal heavy damage with my opponents. Overheat's side effect is that its Sp. Atk gets lowered. So I use U-Turn to attack my opponent, and then switch to a different Pokemon..

    Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 252 Spd
    Nature: Jolly
    - Spore
    - Seed Bomb
    - Focus Punch
    - Substitute

    Breloom is my sweeper and my main attack for him is Focus Punch. I first use Spore to make my opponents sleep. My Breloom has a Jolly nature with 252 EV'd Speed so that I can most likely make my opponent sleep first.

    Shuckle (M) @ Chesto Berry
    Ability: Sturdy
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
    Nature: Relaxed
    - Encore
    - Toxic
    - Rest
    - Substitute

    Shuckle is my physical wall. He is also used for stalling as well. Since Shuckle doesn't have that good offensive attacks, I let my Shuckle learn Toxic to damage my opponents. Encore if useful so that it can lock up my opponent's moves. And rest is used to heal itself and the Chesto Berry can wake it up.

    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EV's: 236 HP / 252 Def / 22 SpDef
    Nature: Bold
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    Vaporeon is my Wish Support. With the Def EVs, Vaporeon can tank many hits from its opponents. Scald is it's STAB move and has a 30% chance for the opponents to get burned. Protect is there so that Vaporeon can get its Wish also.

    Dusclops (F) @ Eviolite
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 254 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpDef
    Nature: Bold
    - Pain Split
    - Night Shade
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Rest

    Dusclops is basically my spin blocker. Also, since it has the Eviolite, its Defense increases by 50%. Dusclops can also be used as a wall as well.

    Weavile (M) @ Normal Gem
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 218 Spd
    Nature: Jolly
    - Ice Shard
    - Pursuit
    - Night Slash
    - Fake Out

    Weavile is my revenge killer. Normal Gem is equipped because I can use Fake out (which is a normal type attack) and normal gem can make the attack stronger. Ice Shard is used for dragon types. If I predict that my opponent will switch its Dragon Pokemon, I will use Pursuit to get that Pokemon damaged before it switches.


    Rate my Team Please. :)
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    I cant tell you how well your team is, but i would love to give it a test run! if you would like.
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    Sure! I would love to give it a test run. :)
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    Ok i will pm you to save room on this page
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuckle View Post
    Hey guys! I made my first competitive team and I was wondering if I could have some feedback. :)

    Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Sp. Atk / 252 Spd
    Nature: Naive
    - Overheat
    - Close Combat
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge

    This guy is my lead and my Mixed Sweeper. I can use Overheat or Close Combat to deal heavy damage with my opponents. Overheat's side effect is that its Sp. Atk gets lowered. So I use U-Turn to attack my opponent, and then switch to a different Pokemon..

    Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 252 Spd
    Nature: Jolly
    - Spore
    - Seed Bomb
    - Focus Punch
    - Substitute

    Breloom is my sweeper and my main attack for him is Focus Punch. I first use Spore to make my opponents sleep. My Breloom has a Jolly nature with 252 EV'd Speed so that I can most likely make my opponent sleep first.

    Shuckle (M) @ Chesto Berry
    Ability: Sturdy
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
    Nature: Relaxed
    - Encore
    - Toxic
    - Rest
    - Substitute

    Shuckle is my physical wall. He is also used for stalling as well. Since Shuckle doesn't have that good offensive attacks, I let my Shuckle learn Toxic to damage my opponents. Encore if useful so that it can lock up my opponent's moves. And rest is used to heal itself and the Chesto Berry can wake it up.

    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EV's: 236 HP / 252 Def / 22 SpDef
    Nature: Bold
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    Vaporeon is my Wish Support. With the Def EVs, Vaporeon can tank many hits from its opponents. Scald is it's STAB move and has a 30% chance for the opponents to get burned. Protect is there so that Vaporeon can get its Wish also.

    Dusclops (F) @ Eviolite
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 254 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpDef
    Nature: Bold
    - Pain Split
    - Night Shade
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Rest

    Dusclops is basically my spin blocker. Also, since it has the Eviolite, its Defense increases by 50%. Dusclops can also be used as a wall as well.

    Weavile (M) @ Normal Gem
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 218 Spd
    Nature: Jolly
    - Ice Shard
    - Pursuit
    - Night Slash
    - Fake Out

    Weavile is my revenge killer. Normal Gem is equipped because I can use Fake out (which is a normal type attack) and normal gem can make the attack stronger. Ice Shard is used for dragon types. If I predict that my opponent will switch its Dragon Pokemon, I will use Pursuit to get that Pokemon damaged before it switches.


    Rate my Team Please. :)
    So this is all out of Preference for me would it not be better to have an Adamant Infernape with say Flare Blitz if you hate Recoil there is always Fire Punch. I noticed you have a lot of stall Pokemon on here as well. I feel an Encore user would be able to mess this up for you as they can force you into a move you probably do not want to repeat.

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    Consider Ferrothorn over Shuckle. Shuckle is easily set up on by Substitute, and Ferrothorn's very useful for entry hazards.

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    I would not recommend running Pain Split and Rest on the same Dusclops. I would instead suggest running either Sleep Talk in lieu of Pain Split, or Seismic Toss/Ice Beam in lieu of rest, in order to round out it's coverage, and ensure that it isn't walled by normal types. I personally enjoy my RestTalk Dusclops, and I think Jacel can attest to it's annoyingly high sturdiness. I once Will-O-Wisp'ed a Banded Guts Heracross locked onto pursuit, and I still stalled the Heracross to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockman.EXE View Post
    I would not recommend running Pain Split and Rest on the same Dusclops. I would instead suggest running either Sleep Talk in lieu of Pain Split, or Seismic Toss/Ice Beam in lieu of rest, in order to round out it's coverage, and ensure that it isn't walled by normal types. I personally enjoy my RestTalk Dusclops, and I think Jacel can attest to it's annoyingly high sturdiness. I once Will-O-Wisp'ed a Banded Guts Heracross locked onto pursuit, and I still stalled the Heracross to death.
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    Hi Shuckle, nice team.
    Firstly, Shuckle is a very underwhelming Pokemon because it provides very little team support other than toxic and also has quite poor typing which many things in the current metagame can easily hit for super effective damage. Rather than changing it for Ferrothorn, I would suggest having Forretress because not only can it provide hazards to support your team (Breloom is great at forcing switches out of the opponent so it is important to have as many hazards on the field as possible) but it can also provide rapid spin support which will help the longevity of your team which has very little recovery. Forretress is also neutral to fighting type attacks which allows it to set up spikes on Pokemon such as Scizor which force Ferrothorn out.

    With the addition of hazards, I think it is important that you keep Dusclops to block rapid spin. I would recommended sleep talk over pain split in order to act as a really good sponge to Breloom.

    Your only real answer to the hard-hitting dragons of OU is Weavile which can merely revenge kill them. I'd say that Weavile is a little to fragile to provide any other real team support (it can only revenge kill dragons, nothing else. This is less important now that you have Forretress to take Outrages and Draco Meteors, however I would reccamend changing to a jolly Life Orb Mamoswine which can revenge kill many of the top dragon threats in addition to the theriens plus provide stealth rocks support which will take the pressure off of Forretress.

    The only other real threat that I see is volt turn which your team seems to have real problems with. The Mamoswine will partially help this by blocking scarf Rotom-W's volt switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Jacel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shuckle View Post
    Hey guys! I made my first competitive team and I was wondering if I could have some feedback. :)

    Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Sp. Atk / 252 Spd
    Nature: Naive
    - Overheat
    - Close Combat
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge

    This guy is my lead and my Mixed Sweeper. I can use Overheat or Close Combat to deal heavy damage with my opponents. Overheat's side effect is that its Sp. Atk gets lowered. So I use U-Turn to attack my opponent, and then switch to a different Pokemon..

    Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
    EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 252 Spd
    Nature: Jolly
    - Spore
    - Seed Bomb
    - Focus Punch
    - Substitute

    Breloom is my sweeper and my main attack for him is Focus Punch. I first use Spore to make my opponents sleep. My Breloom has a Jolly nature with 252 EV'd Speed so that I can most likely make my opponent sleep first.

    Shuckle (M) @ Chesto Berry
    Ability: Sturdy
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
    Nature: Relaxed
    - Encore
    - Toxic
    - Rest
    - Substitute

    Shuckle is my physical wall. He is also used for stalling as well. Since Shuckle doesn't have that good offensive attacks, I let my Shuckle learn Toxic to damage my opponents. Encore if useful so that it can lock up my opponent's moves. And rest is used to heal itself and the Chesto Berry can wake it up.

    Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EV's: 236 HP / 252 Def / 22 SpDef
    Nature: Bold
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    Vaporeon is my Wish Support. With the Def EVs, Vaporeon can tank many hits from its opponents. Scald is it's STAB move and has a 30% chance for the opponents to get burned. Protect is there so that Vaporeon can get its Wish also.

    Dusclops (F) @ Eviolite
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 254 HP / 176 Def / 80 SpDef
    Nature: Bold
    - Pain Split
    - Night Shade
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Rest

    Dusclops is basically my spin blocker. Also, since it has the Eviolite, its Defense increases by 50%. Dusclops can also be used as a wall as well.

    Weavile (M) @ Normal Gem
    Ability: Pressure
    EV's: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 218 Spd
    Nature: Jolly
    - Ice Shard
    - Pursuit
    - Night Slash
    - Fake Out

    Weavile is my revenge killer. Normal Gem is equipped because I can use Fake out (which is a normal type attack) and normal gem can make the attack stronger. Ice Shard is used for dragon types. If I predict that my opponent will switch its Dragon Pokemon, I will use Pursuit to get that Pokemon damaged before it switches.


    Rate my Team Please. :)
    So this is all out of Preference for me would it not be better to have an Adamant Infernape with say Flare Blitz if you hate Recoil there is always Fire Punch. I noticed you have a lot of stall Pokemon on here as well. I feel an Encore user would be able to mess this up for you as they can force you into a move you probably do not want to repeat.
    I already have Sp. Atk EV in there. Does this mean I have to get a new Infernape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundagere View Post
    Consider Ferrothorn over Shuckle. Shuckle is easily set up on by Substitute, and Ferrothorn's very useful for entry hazards.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockman.EXE View Post
    I would not recommend running Pain Split and Rest on the same Dusclops. I would instead suggest running either Sleep Talk in lieu of Pain Split, or Seismic Toss/Ice Beam in lieu of rest, in order to round out it's coverage, and ensure that it isn't walled by normal types. I personally enjoy my RestTalk Dusclops, and I think Jacel can attest to it's annoyingly high sturdiness. I once Will-O-Wisp'ed a Banded Guts Heracross locked onto pursuit, and I still stalled the Heracross to death.
    I see. I'll replace Pain Split with Sleep Talk. But, this Dusclops is a good wall as well right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Takaki View Post
    Hi Shuckle, nice team.
    Firstly, Shuckle is a very underwhelming Pokemon because it provides very little team support other than toxic and also has quite poor typing which many things in the current metagame can easily hit for super effective damage. Rather than changing it for Ferrothorn, I would suggest having Forretress because not only can it provide hazards to support your team (Breloom is great at forcing switches out of the opponent so it is important to have as many hazards on the field as possible) but it can also provide rapid spin support which will help the longevity of your team which has very little recovery. Forretress is also neutral to fighting type attacks which allows it to set up spikes on Pokemon such as Scizor which force Ferrothorn out.

    With the addition of hazards, I think it is important that you keep Dusclops to block rapid spin. I would recommended sleep talk over pain split in order to act as a really good sponge to Breloom.

    Your only real answer to the hard-hitting dragons of OU is Weavile which can merely revenge kill them. I'd say that Weavile is a little to fragile to provide any other real team support (it can only revenge kill dragons, nothing else. This is less important now that you have Forretress to take Outrages and Draco Meteors, however I would reccamend changing to a jolly Life Orb Mamoswine which can revenge kill many of the top dragon threats in addition to the theriens plus provide stealth rocks support which will take the pressure off of Forretress.

    The only other real threat that I see is volt turn which your team seems to have real problems with. The Mamoswine will partially help this by blocking scarf Rotom-W's volt switch.
    I'll use Forretress. I'll think about Mamoswine.
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    No not at all just get rid of overheat persay for Flare Blitz or if you do not mind lose stone edge for FlareBlitz and then you can keep overheat for Physical Tanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuckle
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockman.EXE View Post
    I would not recommend running Pain Split and Rest on the same Dusclops. I would instead suggest running either Sleep Talk in lieu of Pain Split, or Seismic Toss/Ice Beam in lieu of rest, in order to round out it's coverage, and ensure that it isn't walled by normal types. I personally enjoy my RestTalk Dusclops, and I think Jacel can attest to it's annoyingly high sturdiness. I once Will-O-Wisp'ed a Banded Guts Heracross locked onto pursuit, and I still stalled the Heracross to death.
    I see. I'll replace Pain Split with Sleep Talk. But, this Dusclops is a good wall as well right?
    Dusclops is a spectacular wall, especially when played well. RestTalk Dusclops also doesn't fear having it's Will-O-Wisp bounced back at it, since it's primary recovery move, rest, gives it immunity to status for two turns.

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    @Professor Jacel; I replaced Overheat with Blaze Kick. Is that a good choice?
    @Rockman.EXE; Yeah, I know Dusclops is a spectacular wall. :D
    SleepTalk Dusclops is a good choice for my Dusclops. Thank you.
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    Yes that is just as good this way you will not take recoil damage

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