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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

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    Really annoyed about the Sand Veil ban. It ruined my team.
    I am overjoyed on the other hand. That snow cloak ban is icing.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    I'm going to have to come up with yet another plan to reinvent Welcome to Eden to adapt it to the current metagame.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    Was the Snow Cloak ban necessary, though? Has Snow Cloak ever been broken?

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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    The point of it is that it is in a similar vain to Bright powder. It is a bad option to use but it causes a massive variation in battle results that the opponent has no control over.

    Like Moody, it isn't a case of how broken it is.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    I understand that is really for carpetbanning it, but I still have my hesitance on banning Snow Cloak in regards to practical use.

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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    Froslass was a reasonable abuser of it.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    So you have to use chomp with hidden ability?
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    Yes, but it really is underwhelming.

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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    Well I'd still consider it an a tier threat, especially when a scarf set. The main problem I think it has now is that it is more predictable without its sand set and also it has more competition for a spot.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    GChomp is seriously Overrated. (For a Uber anyway)
    Glad they came to their senses and put him down to OU.

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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    He wasn't over rated with Sand Veil, he was overpowered. He is only in OU because it got taken away.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    A Pokemon with 130 Attack and 102 Speed, with considerably great bulk, two good offensive STAB types, access to Swords Dance, as well as an ability that makes 1/5 moves against it miss as long as it's in sand? Personally, I think that sounds over-powered, not over-rated. Sand Veil getting banned brings it down a whole peg, because that 1/5 chance for a move to miss could, and would repeatedly, keep Garchomp alive when you finally get a chance to bring it down. It's not just a matter of Smogon "coming to their senses", it was a matter of Garchomp having just too much going for it.

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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    Sand Veil didn't make him consistantly better, it just gave him the opportunity to 6-0 teams a certain amount of the time with nothing the opponent could do about it. That isn't overpowered, it just breaks the evasion clause. You can check on Smogon for the reasoning.
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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    I'm actually surprised at how little I'm seeing him now.

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    Default Re: Battle Center Discussion #6 - Garchomp

    I'm pretty happy for both the return of Garchomp and the ban on Sand Veil. At least this time, we won't see everyone and their mother spamming that luck-dependant Sub-SD set.

    If I were to use Garchomp (and I probably will), I think I'd use the Choice Scarf set. You know, make full use of that trollish 102 Speed.
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