Venusaur vs Torterra

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    Venusaur vs Torterra

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    Venusaur and Torterra are the two Starters that most resemble each other physically, with Typhlosion and Charizard possibly coming in second. But they have a lot more in common than just that. These two Pokemon are nearly equal in every way.

    1) They both have Starter status. What's more, they both have Grass Starter Status

    2) They both have unique Starter typing

    3) They both have four weaknesses (one less than their Second and Third Gen counterparts). These are:
    Venusaur: Fire, Ice, Flying, Psychic
    Torterra: Fire, Ice, Flying, Bug

    4) Their secondary typings compliment their primary ones by cancelling each other's types out. To elaborate: Venusaur's Poison type is resisted by Torterra's Ground type. Torterra's Ground type is resisted by Venusaur's Grass type. Both Pokemon will hit each other neutrally at best with their STABS

    5) Venusaur is the first fully evolved Grass Starter and, for the time being, Torterra is the last

    6)Torterra is physically more capable while Venusaur's more specially inclined

    Thing is, these guys are pretty evenly matched in almost every way possible. So, why don't you guys decide which of them is better?

    So, which one do you prefer?

    Who is the most useful overall?

    Who would win in a battle?

    I'm biased, but my choice is Venusaur. Venusaur is my favorite evolved Pokemon of all time (and it's pre-evolved form Bulbasaur takes the crown for favorite Pokemon overall). But even without my bias, Venusaur is the top Pokemon in UU at the moment. Torterra isn't. Venusaur's just too unpredictable to reliably check whereas Torterra will never be seen as something other than a physical sweeper or tank. Also, Venusaur's typing gives it an advantage against it's own Grass type. I think Venusaur is just about the most epic thing ever to grace Pokemon. That's just me though.

    Other Venusaur Starter matchups:

    Venusaur vs Meganium

    Venusaur vs Sceptile

    Venusaur vs Jaroda

    Other Torterra Starter matchups:

    Meganium vs Torterra

    Sceptile vs Torterra

    Torterra vs Jaroda
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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Torterra wins them all.

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    I used both in their respective games. I would say that I prefer Venusaur, but Torterra was very useful for the type combination. As for a battle between the two, probably Torterra, because of stronger attack power and STAB EQ.

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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Robotnik View Post
    I used both in their respective games. I would say that I prefer Venusaur, but Torterra was very useful for the type combination. As for a battle between the two, probably Torterra, because of stronger attack power and STAB EQ.
    To be fair, Venusaur has stronger Sp. Attack and STAB Sludge Bomb. STAB Grass Knot which will do a lot of damage to the very heavy Torterra too.
    Last edited by Grass Type Warrior; 14th December 2009 at 09:52 PM.
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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Who cares? They're grass types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy View Post
    To be fair, Venusaur has stronger Sp. Attack and STAB Sludge Bomb and STAB Grass Knot which will do a lot of damage to the very heavy Torterra.
    Hmm didn't even think about Grass Knot - haven't used Venusaur since FRLG. Maybe it's not so clear-cut

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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    As far as usefulness is Venusaur is far superior to Torterra. (though I prefer Torterra appeal-wise, it's just inferior) Torterra is limited to being a physical tank with a debilitating 4x ice weakness whereas Venusaur is a much more effective special/mixed tank with no outstanding negative points, although it has no outstanding postiive points either. Venusaur is pretty sturdy and will usually do what you want it to.

    Further, in a battle, Venusaur would easily best Torterra, not to mention that standard Venusaur carries Sleep Powder as well.

    And for the sake of argument, damage calculations for the standard sets:
    Torterra
    212 HP/ 252 Def/ 44 Spe

    Venusaur
    252 HP/ 252 SpD/ 4 Spe

    Torterra's EQ vs. Venusaur
    Damage Per Hit: 110 - 132 / 30.2% - 36.3% (Number of Hits: 1)
    Critical Hit Chance: 6.3%
    Base Attack Power: 100

    Venusaur's Grass Knot vs. Torterra
    Damage Per Hit: 222 - 262 / 57.8% - 68.2% (Number of Hits: 1)
    Critical Hit Chance: 6.3%
    Base Attack Power: 180

    The result is VERY clear. Venusaur two-hits Torterra without a second glance.
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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMissingno. View Post
    Who cares? They're grass types.
    If you anything about UU, you would know that grass types are the most dominant. Venasaur would likely win 1 vs. 1 due to sleep powder. As far as individual usefulness in battle, Venasaur wins. SD sets are really deadly and he can make good use of Sleep Powder. There's a reason he's the most used mon in UU.
    Last edited by mc2094; 14th December 2009 at 10:00 PM.
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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Quote Originally Posted by mc2094 View Post
    If you anything about UU, you would know that grass types are the most dominant. Venasaur would likely win 1 vs. 1 due to sleep powder.
    There's a reason they're UU

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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuutakesh! View Post
    There's a reason they're UU
    Well, Breloom, Roserade and Celebi are OU. That's more than the number of Fire types in OU and if you want to count the BL Shaymin and Abomasnow, they surpass twice the number of Fire types in the standard tier.

    For the record, UU=/=bad, just less used
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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    I like venasaur more, but torterra would win in a fight between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazyboy0337 View Post
    I like venasaur more, but torterra would win in a fight between the two.
    ^ Wrong, I proved it in my post above, Venusaur wipes the floor with Torterra.

    And by that I mean utterly destroys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAcast_Blaster View Post
    ^ Wrong, I proved it in my post above, Venusaur wipes the floor with Torterra.
    nice calculations. Sleep powder defently shuts down torterra.

    Just proves Venasaur's ownage!

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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Keep in mind that I like Torterra better, it's just a cooler pokemon. However, its usefulness in a competitive environment is questionable. If it had Venusaur's speed, it would actually have a chance...but it doesn't, the poor thing can't even use a Scarf effectively.

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    Default Re: Venusaur vs Torterra

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMissingno. View Post
    Who cares? They're grass types.
    this. grass types suck. I've never used either and never will because they are both the worst starters in their respective gens. If I had to pick one, I'd pick Venusaur just because Torterra is a copy.
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