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  • Snivy , the Smug Grass snake (Smugleaf meme :Sorry Mudkip , Grass beats Water , U MAD?)

    34 43.04%
  • Mudkip , the Water Mud fish (Mudkipz meme: I herd u liek mudipz)

    40 50.63%
  • Neither , they'll just take over the internet.

    5 6.33%
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    Snivy.

    Love smugleaf lol.

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    I voted neither. I hate when things overtake the internet and are literally everywhere. It loses the funny.
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    I'd have to say Mudkip. The whole Smugleaf thing kinda supernova'd, while Mudkip has lasting appeal, and a spot on my desk.

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    I don't even get what's so funny about Snivy's meme. He's cool, but Mudkip's a way better meme-starter. Why? Becuz I herd errbody leikz mudkipz.

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    Snivy looks awesome. I'm not even going to consider memes here.

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    Mudkip. I love the forms and the design.

    And the meme more than Smugleaf's. I just don't like the snake I guess =/

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    Overall Mudkip. It's been around longer and is one of my personal favorite starters. Snivy isn't that bad either, I may just have to get more used to it.

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    Alright, keeping in mind that I voted for Snivy, I have to say that Swampert is clearly the better Pokemon. One weakness, resistance to Stealth Rock, actual good stats, Water typing, Ground typing and actual good stats are but some of the things Swampert has over Serperior.

    Really, the only thing Serperior has going for her are bucketloads coolness in looks and (the as of yet unreleased) Perversity/Antagonist/Contrarian/whatever-the-hell-it's-called-this-week mixed with Leaf Storm. The other Grass Starters outperform it in almost every fashion imaginable. Conversely, Swampert is considered to be by far the best of the Water Starters.

    Snivy's still cooler tho. :P
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    Snivy. Cuter, cooler, awesome, snide, and fun. Mudkip is OK, but he can't compare with miss bitch snake.

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    Snivy wins this, IMO. Better design and all-around awesomness are on his side. Plus, he was my first Gen V starter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy View Post
    Alright, keeping in mind that I voted for Snivy, I have to say that Swampert is clearly the better Pokemon. One weakness, resistance to Stealth Rock, actual good stats, Water typing, Ground typing and actual good stats are but some of the things Swampert has over Serperior.

    Really, the only thing Serperior has going for her are bucketloads coolness in looks and (the as of yet unreleased) Perversity/Antagonist/Contrarian/whatever-the-hell-it's-called-this-week mixed with Leaf Storm. The other Grass Starters outperform it in almost every fashion imaginable. Conversely, Swampert is considered to be by far the best of the Water Starters.

    Snivy's still cooler tho. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by startmario View Post
    Contrary is the English name of Antagonist/Devil's Advocate.

    P.S : DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ? SERPERIOR IS THE DEVIL ? 0_0
    Nope, she just advocates for him ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy View Post
    Nope, she just advocates for him ;)
    Oh , Ok :) .

    Also , doesn't Serperior has Glare over others Leech Seeders?

    Sub seed and phazing are the best thing Serperior can do .

    Of course Swampert is stronger than Serperior(although Serperior would easily win) , I mean , Swampert has the highest BST of all the FULLY evolved starters , while Serperior's BST is the same as Samurott and Emboar . The only FULLY evolved Grass starter that has a BST total higher than Serp(528) , is Sceptile(530) . Because of this , Serperior's BST is in the middle of the Grass starters .

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    Default Re: Snivy vs Mudkip

    I liek mudkipz :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by startmario View Post
    Oh , Ok :) .

    Also , doesn't Serperior has Glare over others Leech Seeders?

    Sub seed and phazing are the best thing Serperior can do .

    Of course Swampert is stronger than Serperior(although Serperior would easily win) , I mean , Swampert has the highest BST of all the FULLY evolved starters , while Serperior's BST is the same as Samurott and Emboar . The only FULLY evolved Grass starter that has a BST total higher than Serp(528) , is Sceptile(530) . Because of this , Serperior's BST is in the middle of the Grass starters .
    BST doesn't matter. It's Base stat distribution (as well as movepool and ability) that counts. Just look at Scizor, Aerodactyl, Breloom, Roserade and Bronzong for examples of excellent (OU as of gen 4) Pokemon with a lower BST than any of the Starters.

    Fact is that Serperior's distribution leaves a lot to be desired whereas Swampert's is top notch. Similarly, Serperior's movepool is downright awful where Swampert's is excellent for what it wants to do. The flipside is that Serperior's ability is fantastic while Swampert's is...mediocre. This doesn't offset the fact that Swampert has more pros than cons and certainly more pros than Serperior.

    Yes, Serperior has Glare over other Leech Seeders, but other leech seeders have Sleep Powder/Spore, Sludge Bomb/X-Scissor/Air Slash... you get the point. Glare is a fantastic boon, and in combination with Contrary it makes Serperior a top notch Seeder, but it still faces competition from Venusaur (better typing, Sleep Powder, better Sp. Def, Sludge Bomb) and Sceptile (faster, better offensive stats, X-Scissor.) Even Meganium is technically bulkier than Serperior (in my opinion, the two are neck and neck in usefulness. This, from me, is a compliment because I really love Meganium and think she's much more useful than most people give her credit for.) I'm not even going to get started on the other, non-starter, seeders because I could be here all night and that's bordering on off-topic.

    Suffice it to say that Serperior is a great niche Pokemon, but outside of fullfilling its particular niches, there's always a better Grass type out there.

    The same cannot be said for Swampert, who is clearly the best Water Starter, the best Water/Ground (due to considerably higher HP/Defense/Attack than the others, all of whom attempt to emulate his stat distribution but do so less effectively,) an excellent lead with Stealth Rock, has a great type combination that provides it with two strong STAB attacks and only one weakness (to a type that is, sadly, not often seen.) It is enough of a threat that some people will place a Grass type attack on their Pokemon for the sole purpose of countering Swampert. That's a testament on how strong it really is.

    Personally though, I think Swampert looks quite stupid while Serperior is the very embodiment of badass (along with all the other Grass Starters) so I'll choose Serperior over Swampert any day, even in competition.
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