Thread: Serperior vs Ferrothorn

Serperior Vs Ferrothorn

VS

The two most notable defensive Grass types of the fifth Generation. I haven't been around for a while so I dunno if someone already made this thread. If so, close it, by all means.

Serperior has much more speed than Ferrothorn. She also gets Contrary, Leaf Storm and a much more well rounded stat spread. Throw in a lot of strong Grass type moves, a very fast Subseed and respectable defenses on both sides, you've got yourself one tough cookie. The downsides include bad defensive typing, single typing and a ridiculously shallow movepool, notably lacking a reliable recovery move.

Ferrothorn has better overall defenses, a great defensive ability, a double typing with STEEL, less weaknesses and more resistances, access to Stealth Rock, Spikes and Leech Seed and Power Whip/Gyro Ball. Downsides include a quad weakness to Fire, missing out on a key Ground weakness and less options for offensive Grass type moves, no reliable recovery, no Rapid Spin and a nerfed Explosion.

So, which do you like better?

Who's more useful?

Who'd win in a fight?

I'll be honest, these two are my favorite Grass types of the new generation. Serperior just looks so regal and elegant and smug. Ferrothorn's a Grass/Steel which I've been wanting since Gen II. Ferrothorn is like a better Forretress, making him one of the definitive walls of OU. Serperior is a badass subseeder and has access to a Contrary boosted Leaf Storm. I like them both so much, it's so hard for me to decide. In the end, I think I'll choose Serperior because of it's design and because I have a bias for Starter Pokemon.

Jalorda is awesome, but I think Nattorei is much more useful as a tank, even with the x4 weakness to fire.

So, which do you like better? Jaroda, because of its design.

Who's more useful? Nattorei, because of its type combination.

Who'd win in a fight? Nattorei, because of its better movepool.

First time seeing the thing on the right, and it looks more awesome, so I voted for it.

Serperior , I like it's design more . But I like Ferrothorn's unique typing .

I dislike Jarorda because his only good set is too gimmicky.

Originally Posted by Envoy

Jaroda has much more speed than Nattorei. She also gets Perversity, Leaf Storm and a much more well rounded stat spread. Throw in a lot of strong Grass type moves, a very fast Subseed and respectable defenses on both sides, you've got yourself one tough cookie. The downsides include bad defensive typing, single typing and a ridiculously shallow movepool, notably lacking a reliable recovery move.

Nattorei has better overall defenses, a great defensive ability, a double typing with STEEL, less weaknesses and more resistances, access to Stealth Rock, Spikes and Leech Seed and Power Whip/Gyro Ball. Downsides include a quad weakness to Fire, missing out on a key Ground weakness and less options for offensive Grass type moves, no reliable recovery, no Rapid Spin and a nerfed Explosion.

I wouldn't say a nerfed Explosion is downside. Giving any pokemon any move isn't a downside. Weakening a key move for a pokemon over a generation is a nerf, but of course the thornball didn't exist last Gen. And not getting a move (Rapid Spin) doesn't really count as a downside either, unless it's a move a pokemon fundamentally needs on paper to be useful.

I like Jaroda's design...

and Nattorei is like the enemy in the games 'minesweeper'

Nattorei is beast. It reminds me of the Spore Spawn mini-boss in Super Metroid with the awesome creepy music.

Natorrei has unique typing, badass design, and overall more useful than Jaroda.

Jaroda has a very interesting design, and is my favorite grass-type Pokémon. However, I think Nattorei would win in a battle because it has stellar defense.

I never really like Serperior so..................
Tank all the way.

Jaroda, because of a somewhat better design.

So, which do you like better?
Serperior
Who's more useful?
Ferrothorn
Who'd win in a fight?
Ferrothorn

I prefer Serperior for design and epicness.

I dislike Jaroda, but I at least like it more than Nattorei. I shouldn't even have to mention what the best thing about Jaroda is.