Empoleon vs Serperior

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    Default Empoleon vs Serperior

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    Battle of royal porportions!

    In the blue corner, the proud emperor penguin, Empoleon!
    In the red corner, the smug snake lord, Serperior!

    Both are famous for being uptight, proud snobs born into (or at least they think so) royalty. The question is, who wins?
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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Empoleon all the way. I love Smuglord too, but Empoleon was the first starter I truly fell in love with.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    A: It's Jaroda. Jaroda.

    B: Empoleon wins if it has Ice Beam.
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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Jaroda wins more in the design.
    But, in battle, I deem Jaroda to be one of the poorest starters out there. Tough luck, monarconda. Obviously, in a battle between the two, Empoleon wins.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Antagonist + Leaf Storm Jaroda can actually be deadly with proper support.
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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Jalorda has a much better design.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    I like Smuglord's design better overall, but pompous penguin has a cool design too, plus it would win in a fight against the snake. Going with the pompous penguin.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Empoleon would win. Ice Beam. Also, he's not weak to Grass.
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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    I prefer Jaroda :P
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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Although the offensive movepool advantage goes to Empoleon, no doubt, Empoleon is still slower than Jaroda (No, Aqua Jet is resisted), so Jaroda gets two attacks on Empoleon while he gets one, and Ice Beam cannot 1HKO thanks to Jaroda's good defences. If Jaroda gets Leaf Storm and Perversity, Empoleon wouldn't survive if both attacks connect. Besides, I prefer Jaroda after all.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Actually, Empoleon has very good Special Attack, so Ice Beam will KO. You're overestimating Jaroda's defenses.
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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Quote Originally Posted by winstein View Post
    Although the offensive movepool advantage goes to Empoleon, no doubt, Empoleon is still slower than Jaroda (No, Aqua Jet is resisted), so Jaroda gets two attacks on Empoleon while he gets one, and Ice Beam cannot 1HKO thanks to Jaroda's good defences. If Jaroda gets Leaf Storm and Perversity, Empoleon wouldn't survive if both attacks connect. Besides, I prefer Jaroda after all.

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    Can smugacanda beat the Royal Bird in 2 moves? The Royal Bird has 101SpeD and 84HP base stats. With Smugacanda's SpeA starting so low the Royal won't even feel it. I am not sure that 2nd attack can finish off the Royal Bird. Smugacanda's SpeD is only 95 good but not great and with a base HP of 75 does he enough HP to last out a Effective Ice Beam form the Royal Bird with a 111 base SpeA?

    I am going with the Royal Bird.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Jalorda. Its design is great and its Dream World ability is also pretty good.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Quote Originally Posted by SharKing319 View Post
    Actually, Empoleon has very good Special Attack, so Ice Beam will KO. You're overestimating Jaroda's defenses.
    You are right. Empoleon has good Special Attack. I may not be a battler like you, but assuming damage calculations are the same from Generation 4, I found out that unless Empoleon's Special Attack increases (or Jaroda's Special Defence decreases), a 1 hit KO won't happen unless it's a critical hit, and because Empoleon is generally slower (he needs one turn to speed up), Jaroda has 2 chances to KO Empoleon before Empoleon does. I wouldn't have said this if I didn't check.

    I know you have more experience in battle that me, so you can always prove me wrong with experience, the only thing you have that I don't have.

    Thanks for reading.

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    Default Re: Empoleon vs Jalorda

    Empoleon wins with Ice Beam and I think that it can also learn Drill Peck(not completely sure).
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