But the thing is, the Orange League is a filler region with only four gyms rather than the usual eight. It's pretty reasonable to say that they're not quite as challenging.
And, IIRC, there wasn't a tournament at the end of the Orange League.
PokeSpe!Red is a good character, but Game!Red is a faceless boss who just stands there to be defeated. Pff...
Anime!Ash got strong now, the writers need freaking legendary spam to NOT let him win in League. At the other hand, DengekiPika!Ash is still better.
And I still call all Reds (except Isamu) "Ash".
It's not. There is no information about OI being an "easier league".It's pretty reasonable to say that they're not quite as challenging.
Just like in the games! Imagine having to win a bunch PvP battles in the row before you can actually challenge the Elite Four.And, IIRC, there wasn't a tournament at the end of the Orange League.
IMO, using tournaments and not direct E4-challenges is a mistake of the anime, but oh well.
Ash resets EVERY region (his pikachu does too) and Red doesn't.
Also, look at the pole, Ash 33 < Red 133
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Straight to the point - who's going to win?
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Which Red are you referring to? Manga or games? Either way they seem more competent as trainers than Ash was to me, so my vote is for either of the reds over Ash.
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Red no doubt, Why? because he's more epic and actually ''tries" to catch legendary pkmn
Red because he is plain awesome.
1. He goes off on an adventure and becomes champion unlike ash.
2. He has awesome pokemon
3. He gets his pokemon to attack you as soon as you see him on mount silver and when you win he disappears like magic!
Red has some integrity to him, as he is actually quite strategic and tactical. He thinks about what moves he makes in battle and in the games he is actually somewhat challenging.
Ash has zero integrity and wins a lot of his battles by luck and chance. He has no idea what he is doing, where he is, or even who he is XD
Red is a better battler for sure but I prefer Ash as a person. Ash may be dumb but he is a very caring and honest person who won't just stand by while an innocent pokemon gets abused by people like Team Rocket/Galactic, etc. He doesn't force his pokemon to evolve either and respects their wishes when they want to be released. In terms of the games at least, we know next to nothing about Red's personality or if he even cares abou the feelings of his own pokemon. So my overall vote goes to Ash.
Last edited by CliveKoopa; 10th May 2012 at 03:17 PM.
Everyone knows that Red is the better protagonist, because you were Red during your playthrough on Gen 1, and you turn him into the powerhouse he is now. Unfortunately, he needs a bit of improvement on his movesets. Ash could've surpassed Red if the writers didn't reset his entire character in Best Wishes.