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    Default Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    I know for a fact that this has been discussed before, but I'm too lazy to go look it up.

    How do you deal with the evolution of Pokemon that are only supposed to evolve when traded?

    Some people just stick with canon, and it makes sense in the story for the Pokemon to be traded, but I have no real intention of doing any trades in my fic. I've toyed with two ideas: having the two Pokemon in question swap trainers temporarily because the situation forces it and evolving during the action (which would be a little too coincidental for my taste), or just having them both evolve out of scene (which would be lame). I guess I could also just have them evolve through experience and ignore the whole trading thing, but I feel like there's a better solution.

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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    An idea (ignore it if you reckon it's crap, lol). How about instead of trading, a Pokemon can evolve if it is given a certain object by a different trainer than his/her own, or even by a Professor. For example, if Ash wanted to evolve a Kadabra, prof Oak could give the Kadabra a Twisted Spoon to hold and that would evolve him/her into an Alakazam.

    I got the idea from some Pokemon needing to hold items to evolve/makes certain babies.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    I like the idea of two trainers being forced to trade their Pokémon because the situations forces it even if it's temporarily. While at it, feel free to expand upon canon and give your own explanation on how trade evolution works, what it is exactly and what kind of energy causes certain species to evolve when traded? Does connection between the two Poké Balls upon a trade has something to do with it?

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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    Cosmic Gerbil's explanation is pretty cool and Tsu's postulations are very interesting.

    For me, I would usually have the trainers forced to temporarily swap. In Rival's Story, I had Blue lend Sailor Maxwell three of his Pokemon because Maxwell's were all knocked out and they needed to split up. The three included Blue's Kadabra and to Blue's surprise when Maxwell returned the Pokemon it was an Alakazam.

    Tsu's idea makes me think: what is it about trading that makes a Pokemon evolve? For example, for a Fire Stone evolution (Eevee -> Flareon), I've substituted battling in an active volcano for exposure to the stone with the logic that it's just strong fire energy that causes the evolution. If you could isolate what it is about trades, then you could apply that by itself. For example, it could be the fact that during the trade, Pokemon swap small amounts of their genetic makeups. It could be that certain Pokemon have dormant genes that are activated by this process causing them to evolve. If this were the case, this could potentially happen by some similar experience, such as Bill's teleportation machine or even a malfunctioning PC transfer.

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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    I've always had it in my headcanon that the trade itself isn't what sparks the evolution, it's the experience of battling under the command of another trainer with a distinct battle style.

    Therefore, if, say, Ash traded his Haunter to Gary, the Haunter would evolve in Gary's care; however, if Ash traded the Haunter to Iris, who has a similar style of battling, Haunter might take much longer to evolve, or might not even evolve at all.
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    I don't believe the trade should be necessary for the Pokemon to evolve. I think it should evolve in like manner to any other normal-evolution Pokemon. In the games and the anime fully evolved wild Pokemon can be found that are said to require trading to evolve. Did all of these Pokemon once belong to trainers who traded them and later released them? Of course not. What of a wild trading-evolution Pokemon that never comes in contact with a human to begin with? It just doesn't make sense to me that these Pokemon in question had never evolved until the coming of humans.

    The games creators just built in these Pokemon to force people to trade (or something along similar lines).

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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mama View Post
    For me, I would usually have the trainers forced to temporarily swap. In Rival's Story, I had Blue lend Sailor Maxwell three of his Pokemon because Maxwell's were all knocked out and they needed to split up. The three included Blue's Kadabra and to Blue's surprise when Maxwell returned the Pokemon it was an Alakazam.
    It's been ages since I read Rival's Story, but didn't it only evolve when Maxwell gave it back to Blue because at that point Blue actually gave him a Pokemon that he had picked up (from a Rocket I think) in return? Totally not correcting you on your own story or anything.

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    I've always had it in my headcanon that the trade itself isn't what sparks the evolution, it's the experience of battling under the command of another trainer with a distinct battle style.

    Therefore, if, say, Ash traded his Haunter to Gary, the Haunter would evolve in Gary's care; however, if Ash traded the Haunter to Iris, who has a similar style of battling, Haunter might take much longer to evolve, or might not even evolve at all.
    This has always been my reasoning as well. This could then be extrapolated to explaining how they evolve in the wild as well: when something happens that totally changes their lifestyle.

    As much as I'd like to come up with a fancy scifi-ish reason as to why certain Pokemon only evolve when traded, I think I'm going to have to pass on that. I've decided to have the two trainers and their Pokemon get all split up, and have to use each others Pokemon to fight their way back to each other. They'll evolve on the way. To give a cool explanation would probably ruin the flow of the story since this will all be happening during an action sequence. It isn't strictly trading per se, but it's enough of a nod towards canon that I think it'll fit in the story as that's how a lot of Unpredictable is written (with both subtle and not so subtle references to the game canon).

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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    Quote Originally Posted by AetherX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mama View Post
    For me, I would usually have the trainers forced to temporarily swap. In Rival's Story, I had Blue lend Sailor Maxwell three of his Pokemon because Maxwell's were all knocked out and they needed to split up. The three included Blue's Kadabra and to Blue's surprise when Maxwell returned the Pokemon it was an Alakazam.
    It's been ages since I read Rival's Story, but didn't it only evolve when Maxwell gave it back to Blue because at that point Blue actually gave him a Pokemon that he had picked up (from a Rocket I think) in return? Totally not correcting you on your own story or anything.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Mama View Post
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    For me, I would usually have the trainers forced to temporarily swap. In Rival's Story, I had Blue lend Sailor Maxwell three of his Pokemon because Maxwell's were all knocked out and they needed to split up. The three included Blue's Kadabra and to Blue's surprise when Maxwell returned the Pokemon it was an Alakazam.
    It's been ages since I read Rival's Story, but didn't it only evolve when Maxwell gave it back to Blue because at that point Blue actually gave him a Pokemon that he had picked up (from a Rocket I think) in return? Totally not correcting you on your own story or anything.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    Personally, I've always carried the idea that when a Pokémon is traded to someone else, they feel that they need to prove themselves, and not disappoint someone else as they have, in their head, disappointed their previous trainer, so they evolve. Held items can an incentive, or a muse of sorts. When a Rhydon holding a Protector is traded, they might think: 'Well, my old trainer didn't like me, I better do my best for this new trainer. Oh! This thing's orange colour is similar to Rhyperior's... I can probably evolve into Rhyperior!'

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    I do have to admit... that from what I've seen in the anime and games, Pokeballs tend to go through a machine or something to signify whether or not they traded. meanwhile, in the Special manga, Green's (Rival's) Machoke evolves after an accidental party swap, with no machine involved.

    the case with trade evolution might wind up depending on who you ask. If it were me, I'd consider the "temporary trade" idea that someone had to "borrow" your partner and let you hold on to their more important partner as a result. in my story, the main character was asked by a friend if he could borrow his Kadabra, and traded his best partner for him. when he returned and traded back, Alakazam appeared instead and was then informed about Trade evolutions.

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    Trade evolution works like this for me in my future fan-stories. This will probably sound very weird and make little/no sense at all, but here I go:

    All types of Pokeballs are always giving off a sort of 'energy', and it increases a little if it's near another Pokeball. Every Pokeballs energy is unique to the trainer who threw/caught the Pokemon inside it, and when trainers exchange Pokeballs (via machine or in-person), they can sense the change in trainers, and it creates very intense emotions, ranging from surprise to fear. If it's a normal Pokemon like Bidoof, he'll be fine, but for a Pokemon like Gurdurr, who has potential to evolve but doesn't quite know how, is forced to change forms because of the over-exposure of all that energy. Levels and power alone aren't enough, they need that sort of certain electricity and emotion.

    As for those who require items AND trading, it's the added stress of carrying an item they have no idea what to do with. Magmar and Electabuzz were microwaved and electrified respectively, though.
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    I think there's a reason the trading machine exists. The machine itself is probably required to legally verify that the trade took place, registering the information in the League database. This ensures that traded Pokémon are not mistaken for stolen Pokémon.

    The machine also has a side effect, giving off an energy signature that can induce mutations in certain Pokémon species. In some cases, the mutation may only occur if the machine's energy interacts with a held item, like the King's Rock or Magmarizer. The Everstone cancels out this energy's effects, allowing Pokémon to pass through unaltered.

    Once in a while, a genetic defect may cause this mutation to occur naturally in the wild, but I for one would treat this as a very rare occurrence.

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    Of course, then I chime in with the lazy, contrarian route - why do you need to? Why not make a Pokémon evolve when it hasn't been traded? You should only adhere to a game mechanic if it adds to the story in some way. If it makes you take a meaningless detour (for example, making them switch involuntarily), then by all means violate the rule for the sake of the story. But if the detour is interesting and meaningful, then you might want to consider it, with "conformity with canon" being merely a bonus.

    All in all, the principle I'd impart on you is the "ignore all rules" mentality by Wikipedia - do something if and only if it is good for the story.
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    Default Re: Dealing with Pokemon that evolve when traded

    well the whole trading to evolve thing is based around the pokemon in question getting experiance it would not get with its trainer. You could have it run off for a little while and get a cool experiance.

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